HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024 Off-Season Thread

[Kaiden Ghoul]

Lets say we have the 8th oa pick

The pick and Mailloux for Rasmus Anderson ?

 

[Benstheman]

Lets say we have the 8th oa pick

The pick and Mailloux for Rasmus Anderson ?

Rasmus is the dman I want the most to complete our squad but 8OA+Mailloux is too much for 1 year of Andersson

 

[Kaiden Ghoul]

Rasmus is the dman I want the most to complete our squad but 8OA+Mailloux is too much for 1 year of Andersson

Of course there got to be an extension in place

 

[tazsub3]

I don't buy it, there are several teams interested and desperate for top 6 adds.

but do they have the cap room without sending salary back?

 

[ReHabs]

Contracts aren't bad if they don't have any impact on your near-term or long-term spending. The Habs have a stupid amount of cap space this year and next. Laine's contract is precisely the kind that works because of its low-cost and low-risk basis. No one would want Laine if he cost too much to acquire or impacted our cap situation... he's too high-risk for a lot of teams but not us. Market Dynamics!

 

[HABitual Fan]

Pretty done. Enjoy another yr of Anderson, Dvo, Armia and Gallagher.

Hate to break it to you, but short of a miracle, you are stuck with those players whether you bring in someone else or not

 

[BargainBinSpecial]

Hate to break it to you, but short of a miracle, you are stuck with those players whether you bring in someone else or not

I know that, I don't get why you had to re-emphasize.

 

[BargainBinSpecial]

Contracts aren't bad if they don't have any impact on your near-term or long-term spending. The Habs have a stupid amount of cap space this year and next. Laine's contract is precisely the kind that works because of its low-cost and low-risk basis. No one would want Laine if he cost too much to acquire or impacted our cap situation... he's too high-risk for a lot of teams but not us. Market Dynamics!

The Habs need to be pulling Monahan type deals. Again, not many teams are willing to give up firsts or seconds, so the Habs can offer cap relief for several teams.

 

[HABitual Fan]

The Habs need to be pulling Monahan type deals. Again, not many teams are willing to give up firsts or seconds, so the Habs can offer cap relief for several teams.

I think the team will have a better shot at that at the TDL when the teams close to the cap look for upgrades and need to move salary. Right now teams aren't feeling the pressure like previous years. As well with only one retention spot left, to maximize the return on the expiring contract guys like Dvorak, Armia, they may need to take back higher expiring contracts than those for draft picks to let those teams keep shopping.

 

[Weltschmerz]

but do they have the cap room without sending salary back?

Your friendly new cap app will tell you there are teams that have lots of cap.
Can't remember Waddel saying he wouldn't take anything back though.

 

[rahad]

The Habs need to be pulling Monahan type deals. Again, not many teams are willing to give up firsts or seconds, so the Habs can offer cap relief for several teams.

Monahan type of deal are extremely rare. We need to find a really dumb GM (like the former Calgary GM). I still don't understand how we got a first round pick for Monahan. Pretty sure Kent would have agreed to a second or third round pick from Calgary.

 

[Benstheman]

Of course there got to be an extension in place

I know but still too much. He doesn’t have that kind of value imo.

 

[tazsub3]

Your friendly new cap app will tell you there are teams that have lots of cap.
Can't remember Waddel saying he wouldn't take anything back though.

And lots of those teams don’t want to spend an extra 16 million in salary either. Again not saying there won’t be competition but kh want him , I see little opposition able to compete with the habs can offer wether it is assets or flexibility or a combo of both

 

[B1g B1rd]

Why would NYI's want Anderson? We're talking about Wahlstrom not Laine. Wahlstrom is likely to hit waivers, which is why he isn't worth a 3rd.

Sorry. My bad.

 

[squashmaple]

If you're going after Andersson, you cannot go after Laine. Andersson head-hunting because his feelings were hurt was the catalyst for destroying Laine's season last year.

 

[junyab]

People need to stop saying this would be risk-free. Whenever a team adds a big-ego, selfish attitude, bad work ethic and divisive personality there is always risk. Not saying Laine is all of these, but there's been public instances of a few, and we're not seeing what's happening behind closed doors.

 

[KevSkillz4]

I tell you my dream last night, MTL have traded Caufield and another pieces for Matvei Michkov !!

Let's gooooo!!

 

[WeThreeKings]

I tell you my dream last night, MTL have traded Caufield and another pieces for Matvei Michkov !!

Let's gooooo!!

Pass

 

[BLONG7]

I tell you my dream last night, MTL have traded Caufield and another pieces for Matvei Michkov !!

Let's gooooo!!

HuGo would not do that...................nope, not a chance.

 

[ReHabs]

People need to stop saying this would be risk-free. Whenever a team adds a big-ego, selfish attitude, bad work ethic and divisive personality there is always risk. Not saying Laine is all of these, but there's been public instances of a few, and we're not seeing what's happening behind closed doors.

Why are you smearing?

Cite your sources or stop character assassinating. If you haven't seen what's behind closed doors then you should sure as hell cite someone who has and can vouch for what he's seen. Otherwise it's bottom-of-the-barrel speculation and smears and baseless insinuations... and you don't even stand by it, you hedge yourself with "not saying Laine is all of these, but"... gimme a break. This is not how adults should develop arguments.

 

[waitin425]

On the Puckpedia website, they give a value to the number and quality of each teams draft picks in the upcoming 3 years.

Montreal Canadiens Salary Cap, Cap Hits and Contracts | Puckpedia

See the cap space, latest contracts, injury news, and transactions for the Montreal Canadiens including salaries, cap hits, buyouts and draft picks on PuckPedia.

puckpedia.com

For the 2025 draft, Montreal is at a ridiculous value of 119.81 so far.

Here is the Top 5 in order

Montreal- 119.81 (2 1sts, 2 2nds, 3 3rds, 2 4ths)
Chicago- 96.33
San Jose- 89.35
Philadelphia- 81.94
Anaheim- 75.58
Columbus- 73.14

The rest of the teams are not even close.

This will be the 4th draft of the "rebuild" and we should be able to concentrate on winning after. With the number of picks we have, we should be able to trade some for higher picks and concentrate on quality rather than quantity.

Man, Imagine we could pull off something like 2nd +3rd+4th for a late 1st

Then......do it again....2nd +3rd+4th for another late 1st.

4 times 1st round picks would be something else!

 

[junyab]

Why are you smearing?

Cite your sources or stop character assassinating. If you haven't seen what's behind closed doors then you should sure as hell cite someone who has and can vouch for what he's seen. Otherwise it's bottom-of-the-barrel speculation and smears and baseless insinuations... and you don't even stand by it, you hedge yourself with "not saying Laine is all of these, but"... gimme a break. This is not how adults should develop arguments.

There are many many reports he hasn't gotten along with teammates (on 2 different teams), you can hear the ego in his public comments, and you can clearly see his poor work ethic and selfish play on the ice. How is none of that evidence for you?

 

[crosbyshow]

Man, Imagine we could pull off something like 2nd +3rd+4th for a late 1st

Then......do it again....2nd +3rd+4th for another late 1st.

4 times 1st round picks would be something else!

Yep and if we trade Savard for a late first in February, the Habs could have.......4 first in 2025....!!!

 

[ReHabs]

There are many many reports he hasn't gotten along with teammates (on 2 different teams), you can hear the ego in his public comments, and you can clearly see his poor work ethic and selfish play on the ice. How is none of that evidence for you?

Cite the reports.

I sincerely do not think his public comments reflect negatively against him, and I do not think his play on the ice (as far as I know it) reflects any character flaw that would imperil any professional team's morale. Snipers are selfish as a necessity -- they have to single-mindedly optimise their position to take a shot on goal. He's a flawed player but you're saying he's a flawed person, so flawed that his acquisition with risk negatively impacting the team. That's far too far.

 

[Mrb1p]

Hate to break it to you, but short of a miracle, you are stuck with those players whether you bring in someone else or not

We had the clear ability to bury one at 13th forward and the other on the 4th line but instead we decided to have one in the top 6 and the other on the third line.

I tell you my dream last night, MTL have traded Caufield and another pieces for Matvei Michkov !!

Let's gooooo!!

Imagine the turn around of opinions on michkov. It would be comedy gold.