HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024-25 Season

Kobe Armstrong

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Which would be fine if Reinbacher and Mailloux are top pair and 2nd pair, we'd go back to 3 RD, which is what you were talking about.
I don’t see him as being someone that would prevent us from acquiring a good player at his position now, which is what I was talking about.
 

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Or set ourselves up for a great buy low opportunity :naughty:
Nah, Zegras is basically a slightly more skilled player than Newhook. We need size desperately..
We need a 2C, totally capable of running that line.. personally, im looking at E. Pettersson. He, and Suzuki make a legit 1/2C throw in our wingers: plus who we draft this year, and that is what the Habs have desperately needed for 30 years..

We've gone from:
Petrov
Koivu
Gionta
Cammaleri
Gomez (though solid)
Desharnais
Drouin
Gallagher

To CC, Hutson, Hudon, RHP, etc..

It never ends.. why must Habs fans always be cheering for pint sized forwards? Why? We've gotta get out of this brutal cycle of building aroundsthese guys.. it never works out.. they get injured all the time..
 

Miller Time

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Nah, Zegras is basically a slightly more skilled player than Newhook. We need size desperately..
We need a 2C, totally capable of running that line.. personally, im looking at E. Pettersson. He, and Suzuki make a legit 1/2C throw in our wingers: plus who we draft this year, and that is what the Habs have desperately needed for 30 years..

We've gone from:
Petrov
Koivu
Gionta
Cammaleri
Gomez (though solid)
Desharnais
Drouin
Gallagher

To CC, Hutson, Hudon, RHP, etc..

It never ends.. why must Habs fans always be cheering for pint sized forwards? Why? We've gotta get out of this brutal cycle of building aroundsthese guys.. it never works out.. they get injured all the time..

Meh... Our top 6 is/will be bigger than the bolts top 6 in their back to back cup winning seasons.

Pettersson is taller but lighter than Z. Not sure there's any difference there from a "moar size" pov. Your argument is incoherent.

Zegras may or may not figure it out, that's the only reason he'd potentially be a buy low candidate. I wouldn't pay a premium.

Pettersson would be great, but can't imagine he'd be available anytime soon.

Tuch & Xhekaj hopefully progress enough to make the bottom 6 within the next 2-3 years.
 
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Offseason priorities will be to add at least two steady veteran D and a 2nd line center. Dach permanent shift to wing. I'd start to move out some of these young D not named Hutson, Guhle and Reinbacher. Anyone else is on the table.

Where can we find another Sean Moneyhands?
 

Miller Time

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Stop with the Zegras already. He's not that good. He's soft AF. He doesn't make us harder to play against quite the opposite.

We get Zegras, I guarantee he ends up on the 3rd line within 10 games
I guarantee that Zegras on our 3rd line would be an upgrade...

The point is to improve the talent on the roster in order to be more competitive, is it not :dunno:
 

vokiel

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I guarantee that Zegras on our 3rd line would be an upgrade...

The point is to improve the talent on the roster in order to be more competitive, is it not :dunno:
I'd argue it isn't the point at this time. The point would be to improve compete, a bunch of skillful ballerinas together is leading us nowhere, maybe we'll be the next leafs once they're all mature.
 
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I'd argue it isn't the point at this time. The point would be to improve compete, a bunch of skillful ballerinas together is leading us nowhere, maybe we'll be the next leafs once they're all mature.
I'd argue that's an empty take.

If you can't recognize that the high competitiveness level of our core U25 players is perhaps the trait most common among them, I question your judgement or understanding of what "compete" is at the elite sport level.

Funny you mention the Laffs ... Their 3 elite core players are all players who were 60+ point players from their first full season, and established elite performers before 25. All 3 have had questions about their compete level from pretty much year 1. That's not at all the similar to the career path of our core U25 players. Try again.

This is the best time for the Canadiens to go get Trevor Zegras, he needs a change and the Canadiens are the perfect team. With the uncertainty up front and Laine's injury, I would add him and rebalance the top 6, keep an eye on Nashville in this case." - David Ettedgui

Calgary and CBJ are the bigger competition imo. Both have the need, cap space & asset mix to push hard if PV makes him available
 
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vokiel

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I'd argue that's an empty take.

If you can't recognize that the high competitiveness level of our core U25 players is perhaps the trait most common among them, I question your judgement or understanding of what "compete" is at the elite sport level.

Funny you mention the Laffs ... Their 3 elite core players are all players who were 60+ point players from their first full season, and established elite performers before 25. All 3 have had questions about their compete level from pretty much year 1. That's not at all the similar to the career path of our core U25 players. Try again.
What? Oh that's funny after an 8 - 2 loss.. :laugh:

No compete whatsoever.
 

vokiel

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One game indicates NOTHING
I've seen enough of them to see players on and off switches. No matter how talented they might be, if they're not willing to break a sweat at the beginning of the season, they aren't worth crap.

I asked on the main board for Newhook and Dach. Their reputation seems to precede them unfortunately. We don't want more of the same.
 

vokiel

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Then it's up to MSL to change the attitude
Well the topic is whoever we want to target in a trade. So I'm saying don't give more work to MSL by trading yet for another compete-less ballerina. Target players who work, and then have some skill.

Not like the coach can do the job anyhow.
 
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I would totally get Zegras,

CC-Suzuki-Zegras could be a great line to whatch

MTL : Newhook + CGY first + Armia
Zegras is soft, has problems with forchecking, play without the puck. You need a tough, agressive player. Not a cake.

I think it should be the last game for Dvorak. Try to get a player like Mathieu Olivier (not him, of course 😏). Call Tuch (if he is a tough, agressive player).
 

Miller Time

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What? Oh that's funny after an 8 - 2 loss.. :laugh:

No compete whatsoever.
Yes, well not all perspectives are so informed by recency bias.

This is the crux of why your takes are largely empty. Evaluating sport performance and team development can't be reduced to small, context ignorant assessments... It makes for lively sport talk and click-bait rants, but it has nothing to do with how that environment actually works.

Fyi Oilers lost opening night 8-1 last year. Same roster that went 7 games in the cup final. But sure, tell us more about your deep insights off of tonight's 8-2 score lol
 

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I've seen enough of them to see players on and off switches. No matter how talented they might be, if they're not willing to break a sweat at the beginning of the season, they aren't worth crap.

I asked on the main board for Newhook and Dach. Their reputation seems to precede them unfortunately. We don't want more of the same.
The main board is mostly clueless fans. There is no reputation except in your imagination.
 

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