HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024-25 Season

[Habs Halifax]

Habs need top 6 forward with size and snarl. We already too small/soft. You get double value back because he adds 25 goals and toughness. Zegras is opposite of what we need.

I do agree but if it's Newhook and a 2nd for Zegras. I'd consider it.

If the Sens were to trade Tkachuk, would you offer this and do you think it's enough? Doubt the Sens trade Tkachuk but wondering about what we would offer if they did. I think this makes a lot of fans think

Tkachuk signed for 4 seasons (including this one). Got to have confidence we can extend him after that or else that would hurt big time.

Habs 1st (unprotected)
Reinbacher
Dach

 

[417]

If Rantanen hits UFA we be all for him. But I heard this too many times before to not be skeptic. Rarely do players his caliber sign in Montreal

Rarely do players of his caliber hit free agency you mean.

And I seriously doubt he will either.

 

[Miller Time]

I’d take a flyer on Klim Kostin in San Jose. He seems like he’d fit here. He’s a former 1st round pick, huge at 6’4 235 lbs, can skate, plays physical with an edge, and can/will fight, possesses a heavy shot, still only 25. He has a strong cycle game (which we dearly need in our bottom 6) and is a left hand shot which would help balance the lines.

I doubt he would cost much to acquire, and he loved playing in Canada for the Oilers. If you could acquire him and Jan Rutta on defense in a package deal, it would fill the two biggest holes. You’d be adding size and snarl and a steady veteran right hand shot defender with multiple cups. Basically a solid stay at home guy that can be depended upon to hold the Fort. Another Savard essentially.

I’d offer up something along the lines of:

To San Jose: Justin Barron, Christian Dvorak, 2025 3rd round pick (acquired from New Jersey).

To Montreal: Klim Kostin, Jan Rutta

Habs roster (when healthy) looks like:

Caufield - Suzuki - Slafkovsky
Newhook - Dach - Laine
Kostin - Kapanen - Armia
Gallagher - Evans - Anderson

Matheson - Guhle
Hutson - Ruuta
Xhekaj - Savard

I'd prefer Kunin to Kostin... I don't know that Kostin will stay in the NHL long if he can't crack 10min/night on that sharks roster.

Goodrow if they retained 1.5M would also be of interest.

 

[junyab]

I do agree but if it's Newhook and a 2nd for Zegras. I'd consider it.

If the Sens were to trade Tkachuk, would you offer this and do you think it's enough? Doubt the Sens trade Tkachuk but wondering about what we would offer if they did. I think this makes a lot of fans think

Tkachuk signed for 4 seasons (including this one). Got to have confidence we can extend him after that or else that would hurt big time.

Habs 1st (unprotected)
Reinbacher
Dach

I don't think you'd get any Sens fans to agree with this offer, but if Reinbacher can indeed be a #1 RHD then yes its enough. If he's a top 4, then definitely not, IMO.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

You're saying the Av's would have less of a chance to win the Cup than Montreal in the next 5yrs? You serious right now?

Avs have no prospects. Unless Landeskog and Nichuskin return and are at peak performance they are only an average team. If they add a UFA or 2 (and one better be a goaltender) they could continue for awhile.

I don't think you'd get any Sens fans to agree with this offer, but if Reinbacher can indeed be a #1 RHD then yes its enough. If he's a top 4, then definitely not, IMO.

Far too much for Tkachuk unless it was Matt.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

I do agree but if it's Newhook and a 2nd for Zegras. I'd consider it.

If the Sens were to trade Tkachuk, would you offer this and do you think it's enough? Doubt the Sens trade Tkachuk but wondering about what we would offer if they did. I think this makes a lot of fans think

Tkachuk signed for 4 seasons (including this one). Got to have confidence we can extend him after that or else that would hurt big time.

Habs 1st (unprotected)
Reinbacher
Dach

That’s a wild overpay for Brady Tkachuk

 

[HabzSauce]

I don't think you'd get any Sens fans to agree with this offer, but if Reinbacher can indeed be a #1 RHD then yes its enough. If he's a top 4, then definitely not, IMO.

If Reinbacher hits #1D potential he alone will be worth more than Tkachuck.

Dach, RB and our 1st unprotected is quite the haul for Ottawa. Not sure if I'd do that if I were the Habs but it's interesting proposal

 

[junyab]

Avs have no prospects. Unless Landeskog and Nichuskin return and are at peak performance they are only an average team. If they add a UFA or 2 (and one better be a goaltender) they could continue for awhile.


Far too much for Tkachuk unless it was Matt.

Why would prospects matter to a wants-to-win-now UFA? The Av's won a Cup with average goaltending and the same D core so I'm not sure why they couldn't again. And any team with MacK, Makar and Rantanen is a contender IMO.

 

[Deebs]

That’s a wild overpay for Brady Tkachuk

It is a shockingly horrific proposal....imo of course. I'm a Brady fan but one just can't do that to their franchise.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Why would prospects matter to a wants-to-win-now UFA? The Av's won a Cup with average goaltending and the same D core so I'm not sure why they couldn't again. And any team with MacK, Makar and Rantanen is a contender IMO.

No it is not. They need more than that and Georgiev is not average. He is crap. The point is the Avs don't have any expendable assets to add players to the roster except draft picks.

 

[sampollock]

That’s a wild overpay for Brady Tkachuk

sad could have been free
no way OTT moves him

 

[WeThreeKings]

Come on guys, we dodged the bullet on Zegras.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

sad could have been free
no way OTT moves him

Kotkaniemi is on place for 60 pts. Might still be a decent draft for MB

 

[Saundies]

Kotkaniemi is on place for 60 pts. Might still be a decent draft for MB

Don't get ahead of yourself, he has no goals and 6 assists in 8 games.

He'll finish with 30/40 like he always does.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Don't get ahead of yourself, he has no goals and 6 assists in 8 games.

He'll finish with 30/40 like he always does.

Could be. He made a great no look pass to send Necas on a breakaway last night. He had idiot coaches for years with Montreal. He is either a 40 pt player or he is starting to recover from imbecile coaches

 

[Positive Vibes]

Not sure what the situation is for the Ducks and Zegras these days but the expected break out does not appear to be in the cards. It's more of the same from last year.

If the Habs ever trade for Zegras, I'd have Newhook in the package. What do we have to add? Not sure... maybe the Flames/Panthers 1st and another piece that is B or B+ level.

My point? We still got too many smaller types and Newhook is one of them. Yeah, he works hard and skates well but gets moved off the puck a lot. If the Ducks are interested in traded Zegras, My offer is Newhook+. Otherwise, go pound sand. No way we should be building our forward group with too many of those skill/soft types. Don't hate Newhook but I don't consider him a core piece

Is this even worth it for the Habs? Just keep Newhook?
Newhook and Flames/Panthers 1st
for
Zegras

Personally i have very little interest in Zegras
I don't think he fits this team in any sense, He has lots of talent but seems to decide when he wants to assert himself and other games he just floats around the ice.
If HuGo are going to make another decent sized move i would aim Higher than him.

Zegras also plays a softer game,people will think im out of my mind but i would rather just keep newhook

 

[Sorinth]

Not sure what the situation is for the Ducks and Zegras these days but the expected break out does not appear to be in the cards. It's more of the same from last year.

If the Habs ever trade for Zegras, I'd have Newhook in the package. What do we have to add? Not sure... maybe the Flames/Panthers 1st and another piece that is B or B+ level.

My point? We still got too many smaller types and Newhook is one of them. Yeah, he works hard and skates well but gets moved off the puck a lot. If the Ducks are interested in traded Zegras, My offer is Newhook+. Otherwise, go pound sand. No way we should be building our forward group with too many of those skill/soft types. Don't hate Newhook but I don't consider him a core piece

Is this even worth it for the Habs? Just keep Newhook?
Newhook and Flames/Panthers 1st
for
Zegras

Zegras is on his way to being a cap dump there's no way would I give up that 1st round pick for him.

If he can't turn it around in Anaheim the only trade we will see would be something like the both times Laine god traded. It's either 1 for 1 for another problem player, or they are adding a pick and getting a decent middle depth player.

 

[Habs]

sad could have been free
no way OTT moves him

Sorry you have to draft by position not best player available. We didn't need anyone like him or Hughes, we filled a hole down the middle for years to come... oh wait

 

[Mrb1p]

Why is it a "must"? Guhle is playing well on the right side, and says he has no issue with it..

No one would trade Larry Robinson so that Serge Savard can go back to his natural side.

Each case is separate.

In this example Matheson is more of a Jim Roberts

 

[sampollock]

Personally i have very little interest in Zegras
I don't think he fits this team in any sense, He has lots of talent but seems to decide when he wants to assert himself and other games he just floats around the ice.
If HuGo are going to make another decent sized move i would aim Higher than him.

Zegras also plays a softer game,people will think im out of my mind but i would rather just keep newhook

Not sure why Zegras is still talked about on here
that ship sailed

 

[Thomas Sowell]

I want zegras. You don't just all of a sudden stop being that talented. He's simply in a shit hole. Put him with his buddy cole and he'll be a ppg player. There's a reason he was on the cover of an NHL game. He's 23 C'mon. Do it.

 

[Lockin17]

I would totally get Zegras,

CC-Suzuki-Zegras could be a great line to whatch

MTL : Newhook + CGY first + Armia

 

[HuGort]

I do agree but if it's Newhook and a 2nd for Zegras. I'd consider it.

If the Sens were to trade Tkachuk, would you offer this and do you think it's enough? Doubt the Sens trade Tkachuk but wondering about what we would offer if they did. I think this makes a lot of fans think

Tkachuk signed for 4 seasons (including this one). Got to have confidence we can extend him after that or else that would hurt big time.

Habs 1st (unprotected)
Reinbacher
Dach

I can't. Love Tkachuk but that is massive. Our first probably a Spence. Reinbacher will be an Adam Larsson. Dach is big, first liner. Too much

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Technically speaking Konyushkov, but he has another year left on his KHL contract after this one.

I see him as a RHD version of Jordan Harris - smart enough to make the NHL but not strong or offensive enough to be a real force, maybe a #5 or #6 if he hits his peak

 

[Treb]

I see him as a RHD version of Jordan Harris - smart enough to make the NHL but not strong or offensive enough to be a real force, maybe a #5 or #6 if he hits his peak

Which would be fine if Reinbacher and Mailloux are top pair and 2nd pair, we'd go back to 3 RD, which is what you were talking about.