HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Not allowed to link The Athletic article but …

Proposed trade between the Montreal Canadiens and the Buffalo Sabres: a concrete offer involving a 1st round pick comes out

In a recent article, journalist Arpon Basu, whom you know well and covers the Montreal Canadiens, proposed a concrete trade involving the Habs and the Buffalo Sabres

www.habsfanatics.com

Ahh alright. I don't pay attention to the athletic at all, so that's why this is the first I've heard of it.



Gotta imagine the Habs are looking at the Rangers. Lafreniere, Kakko and I'd say Schneider might be there and available

 

[salbutera]

Historically Buf & Wild GM Guerin have shown lots of interest in acquiring Dvorak for 3C

 

[Sterling Archer]

Dvo for Rosen in a heart beat.

 

[Ranger12]

Dvo for Rosen in a heart beat.

Isn't Rosen our version of Mesar?

 

[26Mats]

The fact that we only have 3 forwards on pace for over 30 points is a reason we should trade Monahan, we aren't going anywhere with this offence and adding assets to help for the future is needed.

We will still have some veterans like Gallagher, Anderson, Savard and Matheson around for the remainder of the season so losing Monahan's leadership for a couple of months isn't a huge deal.d

The thing is that Dach and Newhook seem capable of putting up 50 points and Monahan is emerging.

I wanted to re-sign him mainly because I didn't want our young wingers (Caufield, Slaf, Newhook, Roy, Ylonen, plus RHP and Anderson) playing with Dvo as their 3c behind Dach and Suzuki. But now that Monahan is playing more on the wing, I'm much more open to getting a 1st if that's what's offered, as much as I'm a fan of getting 2nds.

I'm open to both trading him and extending him. But I think the ideal scenario would be to trade him (while also giving him a chance to go to a team that could make a run) and then bringing him back in the off-season.

Yes, I'm all about: what is the point in having your cake if you can't eat it too!

 

[Adam Michaels]

Jake Allen

The two journalists have differing opinions on the veteran goaltender's future team. Lebrun thinks Allen could head to Carolina, while Johnston envisions him joining New Jersey.

Both teams have shown strong interest in him as of late.

Sean Monahan

The two journalists also identify two teams. LeBrun believes Colorado could be interested in Monahan if the initial plan to acquire Elias Lindholm doesn't pan out. On the other hand, Johnston suggests that Winnipeg could seriously consider this option.

The Jets have several promising assets that could interest Kent Hughes.

In any case, the general manager of the Canadiens will probably spend a lot of time on the phone in the coming weeks

Allen's name has been linked to Oilers, Canes, Sabres & Devils. So it doesn't surprise me those insiders name two of those teams.

As for Monahan, I think he was linked to the Avs since last year, but he was injured.

 

[26Mats]

Jake Allen

The two journalists have differing opinions on the veteran goaltender's future team. Lebrun thinks Allen could head to Carolina, while Johnston envisions him joining New Jersey.

Both teams have shown strong interest in him as of late.

Sean Monahan

The two journalists also identify two teams. LeBrun believes Colorado could be interested in Monahan if the initial plan to acquire Elias Lindholm doesn't pan out. On the other hand, Johnston suggests that Winnipeg could seriously consider this option.

The Jets have several promising assets that could interest Kent Hughes.

In any case, the general manager of the Canadiens will probably spend a lot of time on the phone in the coming weeks

the Jets could be a good fit. They have trouble attracting UFAs, and Monahan is a loyal guy. They could try to trade for him with an extension, though I'm not sure Monahan would go for that. And, I'm not sure the Jets would want to give him the contract it would take, given his injury history.

It's also a good fit because we know Chevy is willing to give up 1sts at TDL

 

[Sterling Archer]

Isn't Rosen our version of Mesar?

Mid 1st rounder, great skill set and seems to be a more polished version of Mesar. Need all the picks you can get to win a lottery. Trading Dvo for Rosen and resigning Monahan seems like a good idea to keep more and add more talent. That’s why I think it’s a near impossibility that Buffalo makes that deal.

 

[sampollock]

When did he mention Rosen ?

They're not trading Levi, he's their future goalie.

AGREED.... we as fans think teams will give away their top prospects for dirt

Isn't Rosen our version of Mesar?

he is small pass

 

[Sorinth]

Will he be a factor when we are ready to contend? That’s what matters, not where he was picked.

It's more a question of will he be a factor in the development of our young guys. If the answer is yes then that development is probably more valuable then what we get in a trade unless a team goes crazy which sometimes happens. As an example, having Roy come in next season and lineup with Monahan as his center on the 3rd line is probably much better for his NHL development then having Dvorak there.

And honestly even to your question the answer could very well be yes depending on the moves we make this summer.

 

[The Real Timo]

Allen's name has been linked to Oilers, Canes, Sabres & Devils. So it doesn't surprise me those insiders name two of those teams.

As for Monahan, I think he was linked to the Avs since last year, but he was injured.

I can't wait for Hughes to get another Barron for Allen.

Although, I think at best Allen is goign to fetch a third. His numbers aren't what you call stellar. Good backup guy for when that team will play Habs

 

[RationalExpectations]

It's more a question of will he be a factor in the development of our young guys. If the answer is yes then that development is probably more valuable then what we get in a trade unless a team goes crazy which sometimes happens. As an example, having Roy come in next season and lineup with Monahan as his center on the 3rd line is probably much better for his NHL development then having Dvorak there.

And honestly even to your question the answer could very well be yes depending on the moves we make this summer.

Before even asking who should be 3C I would worry about finding a 1C but that s just me.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I can't wait for Hughes to get another Barron for Allen.

Although, I think at best Allen is goign to fetch a third. His numbers aren't what you call stellar. Good backup guy for when that team will play Habs

Habs will likely take a contract back, probably a goalie, too.

 

[sampollock]

I hope we all don't have high expectations for what Allen will bring back.

 

[McGees]

It's more a question of will he be a factor in the development of our young guys. If the answer is yes then that development is probably more valuable then what we get in a trade unless a team goes crazy which sometimes happens. As an example, having Roy come in next season and lineup with Monahan as his center on the 3rd line is probably much better for his NHL development then having Dvorak there.

And honestly even to your question the answer could very well be yes depending on the moves we make this summer.

I know what you're saying but you can sign a vet on a 1-2 yr deal in the summer if that's what you want while still getting your 1st or 2nd or prospect at deadline for Monahan

I hope we all don't have high expectations for what Allen will bring back.

3rd I'm expecting.

 

[Sorinth]

I know what you're saying but you can sign a vet on a 1-2 yr deal in the summer if that's what you want while still getting your 1st or 2nd or prospect at deadline for Monahan

But you don't want any random vet. Getting a vet for the sake of having a vet is how Toronto handled things and it was a failure. Being able to mentor guys well is a skill like any other, all indications are that Monahan has it and it has long term value to us even if he himself won't be around long term.

Before even asking who should be 3C I would worry about finding a 1C but that s just me.

And you think you'll find that #1 C by trading Monahan?

 

[nhlfan9191]

But you don't want any random vet. Getting a vet for the sake of having a vet is how Toronto handled things and it was a failure. Being able to mentor guys well is a skill like any other, all indications are that Monahan has it and it has long term value to us even if he himself won't be around long term.

And you think you'll find that #1 C by trading Monahan?

I can see your logic behind keeping Monahan. In my opinion, if he didn’t have such an extensive injury history is typically agree. But I have a feeling teams will pay a fortune for Monahan if he does stay healthy, especially at 50% retained.

 

[Sorinth]

I can see your logic behind keeping Monahan. In my opinion, if he didn’t have such an extensive injury history is typically agree. But I have a feeling teams will pay a fortune for Monahan if he does stay healthy, especially at 50% retained.

There's definitely a price point where we can't refuse and it's possible but not certain some team will be willing to pay it. I'm not as confident as you that a team will be willing to pay a fortune for Monahan.

 

[General Fanager]

I hope we all don't have high expectations for what Allen will bring back.

Just getting the other 2 more playing time and the cap space for next year is a win imo......

I would expect a 3rd or a 2nd if The Habs take back an expiring bad contract

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

There are so many teams with such bad goaltending that even Allen would be a vast improvement. Some of those idiot GM's should be paying whatever it takes to get one.

 

[Zilo44]

What would we have to give up for Kakko?

 

[xposbrad]

What would we have to give up for Kakko?

Why would we even want him?

 

[McGees]

Not allowed to link The Athletic article but …

Proposed trade between the Montreal Canadiens and the Buffalo Sabres: a concrete offer involving a 1st round pick comes out

In a recent article, journalist Arpon Basu, whom you know well and covers the Montreal Canadiens, proposed a concrete trade involving the Habs and the Buffalo Sabres

www.habsfanatics.com

When I read this sentence, I closed the web page, turned off my computer, placed the palm of my hand across my entire face and deep sighed:

"let's say the Buffalo Sabres are in contention for the playoffs by the trade deadline"

 

[Runner77]

Not allowed to link The Athletic article but …

Proposed trade between the Montreal Canadiens and the Buffalo Sabres: a concrete offer involving a 1st round pick comes out

In a recent article, journalist Arpon Basu, whom you know well and covers the Montreal Canadiens, proposed a concrete trade involving the Habs and the Buffalo Sabres

www.habsfanatics.com

Th click bait site is not reprising an entire Athletic article, just quoting an excerpt.

And whatever they lifted is saying nothing. There are no actual discussions, only some trade scenario concocted by Basu pretending to play GM:

If they (ie Sabres) feel they need a veteran center to stabilize things and play solid defensively, they might be willing to trade a young player …

« If » and « might » are meaningless and sink to Dreger-like levels.

 

[RationalExpectations]

And you think you'll find that #1 C by trading Monahan?

No but what is the point to take a chance with Monahan if you won t contend anyway while the older he gets , the most likely he gets injured again.

Maybe I am wrong but I think this Habs team is not as good as his current standings, it has few regulation wins, can t score while scoring is up. Monahan won t make this team a playoff team on his own. If he wants to sign a 3 year x 2m deal, sure but I guess he d get 3-4 somewhere on the market if healthy.