HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[Adam Michaels]

Yes and the Canucks bought out OEL and are doing just fine.

OEL was useless for the Canucks.

Gallagher, it's only his contract that's bad. But he's not useless to the team. He's on a 3rd line, averaging 14 minutes a game and works his ass off. His role has diminished. For the role he has now, he's a good fit. And he's producing at a good rate for a 3rd liner.

Suzuki, Caufield, Slaf, Dach & Newhook are all ahead of him.

Further to that, Hughes successfully offloaded Petry to the Pens the first time. Then he moved Edmundson and Hoffman this summer. Armia and Dvorak should be next and most likely Allen. He's going the more slow but methodical way to offload bad contracts. He won't do anything drastic like buying Gallagher out 3 years before his deal is up.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

Savard and Allen to Edmonton makes too much sense, but finding the cap space/assets to make it work seems like it would be quite difficult.

I’d propose -

To Edmonton: David Savard, Jake Allen

To Montreal: 2024 1st round pick (unprotected), Dylan Holloway, Jayden Grubbe, and Warren Foegele as a cap dump.

Oil shore up their defense with a veteran partner for Nurse, which allows Ceci to anchor the third pairing, and pick up a veteran goalie with cup experience.

Habs get an extra first rounder and two decent forward prospects with good talent, size and speed for the prospect pool.

 

[ReHabs]

Savard and Allen to Edmonton makes too much sense, but finding the cap space/assets to make it work seems like it would be quite difficult.

I’d propose -

To Edmonton: David Savard, Jake Allen

To Montreal: 2024 1st round pick (unprotected), Dylan Holloway, Jayden Grubbe, and Warren Foegele as a cap dump.

Oil shore up their defense with a veteran partner for Nurse, which allows Ceci to anchor the third pairing, and pick up a veteran goalie with cup experience.

Habs get an extra first rounder and two decent forward prospects with good talent, size and speed for the prospect pool.

Little crumbs in the media, such as praise for Savard work ethic, tell me he’s highly valued. Maybe it’s the Habs gassing him up to sell him at a premium but I don’t think it’s that deep or complicated — more simple would be that the Habs rate him and want to keep him. Winning culture and what not.

Especially now that we’ve held onto pretender status. Selling him now would run contrary to everything Hughes has done leading up to now.

 

[26Mats]

I find it naive to put Savard in the same breath as gally , and armia.
In fact habs record with him in the lineup is way way better

The discussion was just about how much cap space and roster spots we'll have for young players, and when, going forward.

I'm a rebuild guy, so I'd like to get good futures for Savard while he's playing well. But I do understand the value of having good vets. If Savard is traded at the TDL, I would hope we get a good vet this summer in the UFA market if needed.

Savard and Allen to Edmonton makes too much sense, but finding the cap space/assets to make it work seems like it would be quite difficult.

I’d propose -

To Edmonton: David Savard, Jake Allen

To Montreal: 2024 1st round pick (unprotected), Dylan Holloway, Jayden Grubbe, and Warren Foegele as a cap dump.

Oil shore up their defense with a veteran partner for Nurse, which allows Ceci to anchor the third pairing, and pick up a veteran goalie with cup experience.

Habs get an extra first rounder and two decent forward prospects with good talent, size and speed for the prospect pool.

We could retain 50% on one or both (if we get a 3rd party) of Allen and Savard.

Carolina and New Jersey also make sense.

 

[Deus ex machina]

 

[sampollock]

Move Allen whatever


I want only scoring forwards back, prospects...
This team needs depth in scoring

 

[Sterling Archer]

Unfathomable!

 

[sampollock]

We need a another Dach deal, Newhook was not as good as Dach deal

 

[vokiel]

We need a another Dach deal, Newhook was not as good as Dach deal

Both deals are meh for roughly the same reason: injuries.

 

[Frank JT]

We need to get Kulich from Buffalo. The type we need.

 

[ReHabs]

Both deals are meh for roughly the same reason: injuries.

Dach has somewhat possible upside to become an impact player. Newhook is less likely to become an impact player.

 

[Michelangelo]

We need to get Kulich from Buffalo. The type we need.

could have drafted him ourselves instead of that bust mesar

 

[Frank JT]

could have drafted him ourselves instead of that bust mesar

I know. But, let's forget the past. He is a great prospect.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

We need a another Dach deal, Newhook was not as good as Dach deal

Newhook was killing it right before his injury. Sucks that our tow major trades haven’t been able to fully show what they can do.

 

[26Mats]

We need to get Kulich from Buffalo. The type we need.

Would be nice to get Mercer from Jersey for one of our young/prospect LD's and one of our goalies.

 

[Sterling Archer]

We need to get Kulich from Buffalo. The type we need.

Kulich for Allen? Seem fair for Buffalo who are looking for a goalie?

 

[BaseballCoach]

No to Monahan.
Remember when people thought re-signing Gally and Petry was a good idea too?
No thanks.

Few comments:
1. Gallagher got signed for 6 years starting at age 29.
2. Monahan has had a better career, and is also 29,
3. Gallagher got $6.5M AAV
4. Monahan should get substantially less money and less term on an extension.
5. Petry was 33 and got $6.25M for four years

Completely different stories.

 

[McGees]

Few comments:
1. Gallagher got signed for 6 years starting at age 29.
2. Monahan has had a better career, and is also 29,
3. Gallagher got $6.5M AAV
4. Monahan should get substantially less money and less term on an extension.
5. Petry was 33 and got $6.25M for four years

Completely different stories.

You’re forgetting the whole part about rebuilding and getting assets…never mind the fact that Monahan is held together with bubblegum and chopsticks.

 

[26Mats]

We need a another Dach deal, Newhook was not as good as Dach deal

Mercer?

 

[Agalloch]

Hughes needs to trade Allen and a d-man (most likely Kovacevic & Savard). Habs need to make some space for Hutson, Reinbacher, Xhekaj, Mailloux, Trudeau in the next years)

Matheson-Savard
Guhle-Barron
Struble-Harris
Kovacevic
Lindstrom

 

[Deus ex machina]

Unfathomable!

That he could be traded fairly soon?

 

[Sterling Archer]

That he could be traded fairly soon?

That’s the Habs could be thinking to trade him.

 

[Adriatic]

We have soo many defensive prospects. Fully expecting us to trade a few of them for some offensive help soon!!

 

[sampollock]

We have soo many defensive prospects. Fully expecting us to trade a few of them for some offensive help soon!!

Hope so.
It may not be till the draft

 

[Deus ex machina]

That’s the Habs could be thinking to trade him.

Yeah, that's been established already.
Wasn't the point of the post.

Things seem to be heating up rapidly, according to him.

Anybody else find it weird that Primeau is playing tonight?