HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[vokiel]

What are Ducks lacking (everything obviously) that Verbeek was in town?

A GM?

Or he's scouting the Isles... You know..

 

[NeptunesTrident]

Zegras for Barzal...fresh start for both

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Yzerman did.

Did he though? Or did he trade from a position of strength to fill a position of need? There was much more happening there than Yzerman predicting he’d bust.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Hopefully some discussions are taking place around Zegras, and Hughes' offer is lower than what he wants so he wanted to get his eyes on what's being offered to see if he can be convinced...

Anderson, Ylonen, Dvorak, Evans, Savard, Kovacevic... Some kind of package from those pieces + flames 1st & ?

Anaheim won't want any of those players. There is no match. They don't need d and Habs don't have any forwards of interest that they would trade. Newhook or Dach and 1st.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Main board thinks that we believe every vet we have is worth a 1st rounder. I feel like we only say that during the highs of a player. For instance, Monahan last year was playing superb hockey so we all thought he could potentially get a 1st if he keeps it up then went down with an injury long term with not date on when he was back so we all figured he wouldn't but main board seems to think we still believed he would. Same thing with Edmundson, guy really declined hard and was injury prone since our finals run so yes we figured he wouldn't net a 1st.

There’s some Habs fans on the main board that make the most ridiculous proposals that when level headed posters go to discuss anything there we all get lumped in with the crack pots, that’s why I stay away.

 

[HuGo Sham]

There’s some Habs fans on the main board that make the most ridiculous proposals that when level headed posters go to discuss anything there we all get lumped in with the crack pots, that’s why I stay away.

this ^^^

 

[HuGort]

Anaheim won't want any of those players. There is no match. They don't need d and Habs don't have any forwards of interest that they would trade. Newhook or Dach and 1st.

I would probably offer our first at draft if it's around 12th. What it is now. But no more

 

[OldCraig71]

There’s some Habs fans on the main board that make the most ridiculous proposals that when level headed posters go to discuss anything there we all get lumped in with the crack pots, that’s why I stay away.

Truth! I read things on the main from posters that seem to be Habs fans but I haven't seen them post here and most of it is ridiculous.

 

[le_sean]

How did Zegras get 88 PIMs last season? He doesn’t fight.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

How did Zegras get 88 PIMs last season? He doesn’t fight.

Same way PK did by being a faux tough guy


If the Habs go and make a deal with the Ducks try and get Rodwin Dionicio, too

 

[BLONG7]

There’s some Habs fans on the main board that make the most ridiculous proposals that when level headed posters go to discuss anything there we all get lumped in with the crack pots, that’s why I stay away.

Main board, is beyond absurd
There is almost zero chance of having a normal discussion with anyone.
Habs haters are beyond dumb...

 

[Runner77]

What are Ducks lacking (everything obviously) that Verbeek was in town?

A player from the team we were facing?

 

[Guy Larose]

There’s some Habs fans on the main board that make the most ridiculous proposals that when level headed posters go to discuss anything there we all get lumped in with the crack pots, that’s why I stay away.

Some of those posters are in this very thread.

 

[Runner77]

There’s some Habs fans on the main board that make the most ridiculous proposals that when level headed posters go to discuss anything there we all get lumped in with the crack pots, that’s why I stay away.

Habs fans should test their proposals on this forum first. Even if we slap them around some, it’ll be nowhere as embarrassing as doing it on the Maim board as a first run.

 

[vokiel]

How did Zegras get 88 PIMs last season? He doesn’t fight.

By taking risks..

 

[calder candidate]

I was sure that we were going to see a Raanta+ for Allen as soon as Raanta had clear waivers…

 

[HuGo Sham]

Habs fans should test their proposals on this forum first. Even if we slap them around some, it’ll be nowhere as embarrassing as doing it on the Maim board as a first run.

Maim board, exactly

 

[26Mats]

If we could get a prospect like Leonard for Matheson (would be a nice fit in WAS), it would set our offense (considering a top 8 pick this year). Maybe even add a Monahan (as well as taking on Mantha).

Any time as a rebuilding team you can get a great prospect for a vet, you have to do it.

Pacioretty for Suzuki was a great trade. I doubt the caps would give up Leonard. With Ovi seeming to be approaching a declining state, I would think the caps are seeing they'll be rebuilding soon. But Leonard is the kind of prospect we should be jumping at the opportunity to add.

I was sure that we were going to see a Raanta+ for Allen as soon as Raanta had clear waivers…

We'd have to take back more salary than that to move Allen for something positive.

 

[HuGort]

Would we try and sign Toffoli this off season. He's on pace for his second straight 35 goal season. We need goals! Plus he liked playing in Montreal.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

What are Ducks lacking (everything obviously) that Verbeek was in town?

They do not need defensemen. They might acquire one but not at the expense of one of their few young forwards.

 

[morhilane]

How did Zegras get 88 PIMs last season? He doesn’t fight.

You can see the list here: https://www.icydata.hockey/player_stats/39/penalties, just put Zegras in the search box on the right.

Looking at this list, lots of hooking and slashing which usually means late on plays.

 

[Runner77]

Maim board, exactly

I’ve always called it that but some others too. It’s exactly what it is. A repository for human trash at its worst.

 

[Nevins]

Sounds like Martin Necas is a poor fit in Carolina and fans aren't excited about committing to his next contract. Expectations are that there may be issues resigning him as an RFA and a trade may be on the table. Doesn't fit Brind'Amour's dump/grind system very well and he has yet to be given a shot at C - despite stating his desire to do so.

Carolina needs top line players, are desperate for a goalie, and lack grit/physicality. This was meant to be a big year for them and there could be a lot of turnover this offseason.

Any thoughts on offers for Necas?

maybe this.
To Carolina: John Gibson and Benoît Groulx

To Anaheim:Martin Necas and Jake Allen
To Montreal: Anti Raanta and 4 th rond pick from Anaheim

 

[vokiel]

Would we try and sign Toffoli this off season. He's on pace for his second straight 35 goal season. We need goals! Plus he liked playing in Montreal.

No we would not, kthxbye

 

[Scriptor]

You can see the list here: https://www.icydata.hockey/player_stats/39/penalties, just put Zegras in the search box on the right.

Looking at this list, lots of hooking and slashing which usually means late on plays.

Penalties as a result of laziness or bad defensive IQ