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HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

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vokiel said:
Even if that's the case, I feel the GM got his reclamation project already in Newhook. Trucotte is just much further from the league.
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Our center depth is toast for the rest of the year, there's nothing wrong with getting another project even if he's further away for cheap.
 
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Boss Man Hughes said:
True. For a 4th round pick (if Habs pick it will likely be close to a late 3rd) it's worth a try
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i suspect the Kings would want a lot more than that for Turcotte... He seems to be having his most productive pro season to date.

But injuries are still a red flag. He looks to have gotten another concussion just last week. Kid has had terrible luck and/or doesn't know how to protect himself.

If the Kings were high on Allen, something around Allen with retention for Turcotte (maybe with a small/conditional +) could make sense for both sides
 
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Mrb1p said:
And they would get a very good laugh. Zegras isn't worth anything close to Dach or Caufield. He's a reclamation project at this point, he's an incredibly flawed player. He got benched last year and early in the year because he was 100-0 offensive-defensive, and this year he started shooting at like .5% because he's just not a good enough player and way too much of a perimeter player to be good on both sides of the ice. He needs to cherry pick hard to produce.

He's 100% the same as Drouin, as I said in 2019 before the draft. Im betting he has more career success than Drouin simply due to the fact he won't have the same mental struggles as Joe did playing in MTL, but he's never going to amount to anything more than a 2nd liner that needs to his coach to bend universes to make him a positive player.

During Caufields struggles, we see him produce at slightly below Zegras's career high, they are not the same quality of players.
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Zegras definitely has some flaws on defence but so does Caufield and how can you say hes 100% the same as Drouin but without the mental struggles when those mental struggles are exactly why Jo never achieved anything in the NHL

If Z was a "reclamation project" and could be had for cheap you would have every team calling the Ducks hes struggling atm but so his CC both are still very young and too talented to not become ppg players in this league kid had 61pts in 70games in hes rookie season hes very talented something is just off this season idk if the contract talks pissed him off apparently he was looking at a contract like Cole but on talent alone i think Z is more talented then anyone on our roster but yes he should work on hes 2way game which he can easily do

And i love Dach i was one of them who didnt wanna trade him for PLD not even 1v1 but hes value is not higher then Zegras atleast not yet,Kirby needs to start by atleast completing a full season he played what 40/50games with the Habs in 2 full seasons (counting this one)
 
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Miller Time said:
i suspect the Kings would want a lot more than that for Turcotte... He seems to be having his most productive pro season to date.

But injuries are still a red flag. He looks to have gotten another concussion just last week. Kid has had terrible luck and/or doesn't know how to protect himself.

If the Kings were high on Allen, something around Allen with retention for Turcotte (maybe with a small/conditional +) could make sense for both sides
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I am pretty sure Kings are not interested in Jack Allen.

They are looking for # type 3 goalie and not ready to sell Turcotte cheaply.

Turcotte did not get another concussion just last week.

He is already skating.

 
kinghock said:
I am pretty sure Kings are not interested in Jack Allen.

They are looking for # type 3 goalie and not ready to sell Turcotte cheaply.

Turcotte did not get another concussion just last week.

He is already skating.

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He hasn't played more than half a season ever. Was hurt 2 or 3 times in his draft season. I wouldn't offer more than Allen.
 
kinghock said:
I am pretty sure Kings are not interested in Jack Allen.

They are looking for # type 3 goalie and not ready to sell Turcotte cheaply.

Turcotte did not get another concussion just last week.

He is already skating.

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Ok, my bad... Took a vicious hit to the head that knocked him out of a few games and has him in non contact jersey as a precaution to his non-concussion related head injury ... Lol

Wether or not the Kings decide to move Turcotte this year, btw now and next fall they'll need to make a decision as he's no longer waiver exempt then. If he manages to stay healthy (far from a given) and continues to play well this season, I suspect they'd rather trade h than lose him for nothing.

Will be interesting to see if he is a trade piece they use to bolster their playoff aspirations, and if so, what kind of value he returns. I think it would be more than a 3rd as others here have suggested, but not so sure it would be more than Allen at a reduced salary... We'll see
 
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The Great Weal said:
Our center depth is toast for the rest of the year, there's nothing wrong with getting another project even if he's further away for cheap.
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I think the last thing this team need is injury-prone reclamation project. We already have Dach, we need more of Suzuki guys, who can stay fit and develop constantly.
 
Would you guys do a Caufield for Dobson swap?
Then you draft the best Forward

Would allow us to dangle Mallioux for another winger later on too

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Hutson. Dobson
 
Theodore450 said:
Would you guys do a Caufield for Dobson swap?
Then you draft the best Forward

Would allow us to dangle Mallioux for another winger later on too

Guhle Reinbacher
Hutson. Dobson
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Interesting. Lou would never do it though. I wouldn't wan to move Caufield but I would probably trade Dach for him (since Dach is unlikely to ever play a whole season).

Tyson said:
Turcotte sadly can be categorized as a bust.
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Not talent wise although he is a set up man and not a goal scorer. But he is a glass body.
 
Team_Spirit said:
The Kings are beyond f***ed

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Cap goes up 4m next summer, Kopitar's cap hit goes down by 3m too, and the Kings are one of the serious cup contenders this year they have 97 goals for and 67 goals against (lowest in the NHL). Yeah they need to figure out how to keep their many RFAs but what's the problem, exactly?
 
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Cap goes up 4m next summer, Kopitar's cap hit goes down by 3m too, and the Kings are one of the serious cup contenders this year they have 97 goals for and 67 goals against (lowest in the NHL). Yeah they need to figure out how to keep their many RFAs but what's the problem, exactly?
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I agree, do not see any major issue with their cap situation. Roy (RD) is the only significant UFA and they do not need him as Clarke is coming from AHL. I am really curious what they offer to Byfield. I think they will go for 3y bridge contract and wait till Kopitar retires. And they need a proper goaltender as all of them are average and UFAs.
 
Gaylord Q Tinkledink said:
They also have a handful of players hurt, or suspended.
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It is crazy how bad Yzerplan works. They are just 2 point above Habs now and their rebuild is in worse shape as well. Only Seider and Raymond are performing with NHL team, their mid 6 prospects like Berggren do not have opportunities because they signed bunch of UFAs. Their key duo DeBrincat-Larkin is almost 4 years older than Nick/Cole and more expensive.
 
I expect Allen to be moved by deadline, 3.8m. Pearson done by season end, 3.2m. Monahan probably traded, 2.2m. Armia could be gone , 3.4m. A defenseman traded. Either Savard or Matheson as we deep on Blueline and either would return overpayment. Matheson is my choice to go, 4.9m. Alzner caphit is off after this season, 1m. Giving us a little over 18 million to play with in UFA or trade route. Things looking up.

We have raise to Montembeault but cap going up too. So, still leaves us the 18 million.

Next year even more bad contracts coming off. Petry, Dvorak, Savard. Then another year Price be paid off and Anderson. The final bad contract be off in 26, Gallagher
 
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