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HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

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26Mats said:
If New Jersey want to get tougher for the playoffs:

To MTL: Dawson Mercer
To NJD: Josh Anderson (50% retained) + ?

The question becomes, what's the question mark. Calgary's 1st? Engstrom? Bogdan? Farrell? Mesar? Ylonen?
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...you want to retain on Anderson and handcuff the Habs for years!?! For Mercer...
 

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DAChampion said:
Nashville believed that they had a lot of defensemen.

Guhle has looked ineffective lately.
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He needs a reset. Coincidence or no I was reading about Guhle talking about wanting to be more physical. It seems his game fell off ever since. Robidas should take him in hand and explain to him his best game is based on great positioning poaching pucks and turning them back up ice. The physical stuff will come when he matures in a couple of years. I don't think his frame has reached it's optimal proportions yet and isn't one that will strike fear in the opposition.
 
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...you want to retain on Anderson and handcuff the Habs for years!?! For Mercer...
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Well, there's a risk Anderson is untradeable. So if that becomes the case, we'd be handcuffed with 2.75M instead of 5.5M, plus Anderson wouldn't be taking a spot in the top 9 away from a young player.
 
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26Mats said:
Well, there's a risk Anderson is untradeable. So if that becomes the case, we'd be handcuffed with 2.75M instead of 5.5M, plus Anderson wouldn't be taking a spot in the top 9 away from a young player.
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Didn't he sign an 8 year deal? How many years are left on that?
 

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Miller Time said:
also very curious as to how adding Anderson would make a team "tougher for the playoffs". I think that the PF narrative ship has sailed for Anderson. He's more Rene Bourque than Tom Wilson and I would imagine most GMs are figuring that out
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Well said.
Any GM looking to add for a post season run will also look at past performance. 14 points in 43 games doesn't come flying off the page. Rene Bouque had 15 in 30 games 11 of which were that one season with us. You remember right? The year he said he was glad for the two points after winning a game against Tampa. :laugh:
 
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26Mats said:
Well, there's a risk Anderson is untradeable. So if that becomes the case, we'd be handcuffed with 2.75M instead of 5.5M, plus Anderson wouldn't be taking a spot in the top 9 away from a young player.
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True.
People need to understand Anderson is not perceived to have the same value for a post season run as Chiarot and Lehkonen did when we moved them. Chiarot's play during our Covid run is what Florida were after.
Lehkonen had been targeted for a number of seasons before we finally moved him and most of us knew why.
 

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Gaylord Q Tinkledink said:
Vrana wasn't waived, but rather could be involved in a deal.

Could is very week, just a suggestion by Friedman.
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I don't listen to anything Elliott says until his Positivity meter hit 95%.


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26Mats said:
Well, there's a risk Anderson is untradeable. So if that becomes the case, we'd be handcuffed with 2.75M instead of 5.5M, plus Anderson wouldn't be taking a spot in the top 9 away from a young player.
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I don't really understand the logic behind this argument. We don't know if Anderson is untradeable or not. It doesn't sound like he is based on reporting.

I also don't see how he's "taking a spot in the top 9 away from a young player". 5v5 the only young guy he could possibly be blocking from a top-9 spot is Ylonen, and its certainly seems like Anderson isn't the reason why Ylonen wasn't/isn't getting opportunities.

I generally don't get why people want to trade Anderson now. For all his clear faults, he's also been one of the unluckiest shooters in the NHL (1st/2nd per Sportlogiq, 3rd by Moneypuck). Why would you want to sell low when there's no immediate pressure and the flat cap environment ends after the season?
 
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Captain Mountain said:
I don't really understand the logic behind this argument. We don't know if Anderson is untradeable or not. It doesn't sound like he is based on reporting.

I also don't see how he's "taking a spot in the top 9 away from a young player". 5v5 the only young guy he could possibly be blocking from a top-9 spot is Ylonen, and its certainly seems like Anderson isn't the reason why Ylonen wasn't/isn't getting opportunities.

I generally don't get why people want to trade Anderson now. For all his clear faults, he's also been one of the unluckiest shooters in the NHL (1st/2nd per Sportlogiq, 3rd by Moneypuck). Why would you want to sell low when there's no immediate pressure and the flat cap environment ends after the season?
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I'm ready to move Anderson because the risk is if he doesn't bounce back, we're stuck with Gallagher and Andreson taking up 12M in cap space for 3 more years after this one. We could use his cap space to sign a good player. And, I do want Ylonen and Roy, and possibly RHP, to get top 9 minutes going forward.
 

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26Mats said:
Well, there's a risk Anderson is untradeable. So if that becomes the case, we'd be handcuffed with 2.75M instead of 5.5M, plus Anderson wouldn't be taking a spot in the top 9 away from a young player.
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Anderson is not untradeable the Kings will be looking to trade PLD before his full NMC kicks in on July 1st so there is always that option.
 
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therocket9 said:
Anderson is not untradeable the Kings will be looking to trade PLD before his full NMC kicks in on July 1st so there is always that option.
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If PLD's contract becomes a bad one, sure we could trade Anderson for a bad contract.

In that sense, Gallagher isn't untradeable either.
 
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26Mats said:
I'm ready to move Anderson because the risk is if he doesn't bounce back, we're stuck with Gallagher and Andreson taking up 12M in cap space for 3 more years after this one. We could use his cap space to sign a good player. And, I do want Ylonen and Roy, and possibly RHP, to get top 9 minutes going forward.
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Problem with Andreson for me is that he never develop any chemistry with a C since he got here. If We move ahead with Suzuki and Dach on the two top line, that mean he has to play on the 3rd at best. That is quite a big cap hit on a 3rline guy.
 
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Kosseca said:
Problem with Andreson for me is that he never develop any chemistry with a C since he got here. If We move ahead with Suzuki and Dach on the two top line, that mean he has to play on the 3rd at best. That is quite a big cap hit on a 3rline guy.
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He had chemistry with RHP. So, as it stands now, you just hope RHP-Monahan-Anderson, RHP-Dvo-Anderson, or RHP-Evans-Anderson could work.

one of the things I haven't liked about MSL's line combos this year is that he didn't play RHP with Anderson enough.
 
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