HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[HuGort]

Dave Pagnotta was on 690 today. Said this past week Habs have been contacted about a forward. He never said who, but did said it was somebody on our top 4 lines. Habs countered by packaging him with a defenseman trying to improve our middle 6.

Carolina asked about our netminding but Habs won't give up Primeau nor Allen for a late round pick.

Doubts Matheson will be moved. Thinks Savard will go. Return will be Chiarot like.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Dave Pagnotta was on 690 today. Said this past week Habs have been contacted about a forward. He never said who, but did said it was somebody on our top 4 lines. Habs countered by packaging him with a defenseman trying to improve our middle 6.

Carolina asked about our netminding but Habs won't give up Primeau nor Allen for a late round pick.

Doubts Matheson will be moved. Thinks Savard will go. Return will be Chiarot like.

Pagnotta also sucks ass.

 

[Gravity]

Dave Pagnotta was on 690 today. Said this past week Habs have been contacted about a forward. He never said who, but did said it was somebody on our top 4 lines. Habs countered by packaging him with a defenseman trying to improve our middle 6.

Carolina asked about our netminding but Habs won't give up Primeau nor Allen for a late round pick.

Doubts Matheson will be moved. Thinks Savard will go. Return will be Chiarot like.

They fact that they're actively trying to improve our middle six at this juncture of the season is bad news for team tank.

 

[Skip Bayless]

I don't remember a single time in which Pagnotta came out with something that became reality.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

If Savard gets a first round pick, I’ll drive him from Montreal myself. I certainly hope that it happens, although I may have to crowd fund for gas, so keep that in mind HF.

I seriously doubt there’s too much interest on the part of Hughes or Gorton to add any kind of veteran help up front. This is obviously not a playoff team and Hughes is smart enough to know that and to maximize his potential returns from his assets.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Dave Pagnotta was on 690 today. Said this past week Habs have been contacted about a forward. He never said who, but did said it was somebody on our top 4 lines. Habs countered by packaging him with a defenseman trying to improve our middle 6.

Carolina asked about our netminding but Habs won't give up Primeau nor Allen for a late round pick.

Doubts Matheson will be moved. Thinks Savard will go. Return will be Chiarot like.

Carolina's netminding is putrid. They're going to have to pony up more than a late round pick to get Allen.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I don't remember a single time in which Pagnotta came out with something that became reality.

I think he was one of the first with LA for Dubois.

I think he knows LA stuff, but that's it and he comments on EVERYTHING

 

[Draft]

They fact that they're actively trying to improve our middle six at this juncture of the season is bad news for team tank.

I think a long-term upgrade on Dvorak at 3C would be huge for us. I really like the idea of a guy like Peyton Krebs - quick, good playmaker, high IQ, solid defensively, and could potentially move up the lineup in case of injuries if he develops properly.

 

[Gravity]

I think a long-term upgrade on Dvorak at 3C would be huge for us. I really like the idea of a guy like Peyton Krebs - quick, good playmaker, high IQ, solid defensively, and could potentially move up the lineup in case of injuries if he develops properly.

We have that in the pipeline though. I'm not uncertain Beck could fill that 3C position as soon as next year.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Montreal has no realCap issues and Anderson is no cancer, nor is Gallagher, as much as I'd get rid of the latter in a heart beat.

Both coming off the books in the 2027 offseason is perfect timing to complete a roster as the rest of it matures. They will provide the Caps pace to sign an impact forward that matches the age group the team's core (28, 29) as an UFA, all for a 3-year window while Suzuki's contract comes to an end.

I don't think that the roster will be one of a contending team until the 2027-2028 season, anyhow, and that would only be on the heels of adding an impact forward via a trade in the 2025 offseason and signing another impact forward as an UFA in the 2027 offseason.

The players drafted early in the upcoming drafts all take years to mature and will still be important to keep a contender window open.

this is a good post and why we need to stock up on forward prospects in the next 2 years

 

[calder candidate]

Carolina just lost 4 in a row are just outside of the playoff, they don't really have significant injuries and have some pretty good competition (DET, NJ, TB).
Their best goalie Andersen a .894 Sv% and injured with blood clotting, Raanta .860 SV%, Kochetkov SV% 8.73...
KK after a hot start like 15pts in 16 games is now 2pts in his last 13games, he is the worst FO% at 46.5 everyone else is above 53% is ice time was cut significantly in the last 2 games, considering how cheap they are plus they don't have much cap space so he might be the odd man out since they will have Teravainen, Necas, Skjei, Pesce going to UFA (Which all play bigger roles) likely all looking for raises with no one of signifiance coming off the books. Carolina should be in peaking with lot of importantplayer being 29yo and over( 4 being UFA), seem like they might have miss there shot by not being aggressive enough in the last few years, they likely to push this year.

MTL has 3 goalie above .900 SV% and 3 C above 52 FO% that could take KK minutes which could fit in the cap. Both team have lot of prospect and pick to add has needed.

Because of the KK situation or history between the 2 teams I'm not sure either are trying to actively help one another, but there seem to be needs and a fit...

Carolina could clear up to 4.4M$ + cap increase which would help them resign anyone they need too and get a goalie to help they playoff push this year without really affecting their roster.
Mtl take anthoer reclamation,hoping KK being a great 3rd C or maybe a top 6 winger who fit the timely...

Allens 3.85M$ +1 year
Monahan 1,45M$ (UFA) or Dvorak 4.45M$ + 1 year or Evans 1.7M$ + 1 year
+ pick or prospect or Pearson 50%

KK 4.82M$ +5 years
Andersen 3.4M$ +1 year or Raanta 1.5M$ (UFA)
+Prospect

 

[Deus ex machina]

Carolina just lost 4 in a row are just outside of the playoff, they don't really have significant injuries and have some pretty good competition (DET, NJ, TB).
Their best goalie Andersen a .894 Sv% and injured with blood clotting, Raanta .860 SV%, Kochetkov SV% 8.73...
KK after a hot start like 15pts in 16 games is now 2pts in his last 13games, he is the worst FO% at 46.5 everyone else is above 53% is ice time was cut significantly in the last 2 games, considering how cheap they are plus they don't have much cap space so he might be the odd man out since they will have Teravainen, Necas, Skjei, Pesce going to UFA (Which all play bigger roles) likely all looking for raises with no one of signifiance coming off the books. Carolina should be in peaking with lot of importantplayer being 29yo and over( 4 being UFA), seem like they might have miss there shot by not being aggressive enough in the last few years, they likely to push this year.

MTL has 3 goalie above .900 SV% and 3 C above 52 FO% that could take KK minutes which could fit in the cap. Both team have lot of prospect and pick to add has needed.

Because of the KK situation or history between the 2 teams I'm not sure either are trying to actively help one another, but there seem to be needs and a fit...

Carolina could clear up to 4.4M$ + cap increase which would help them resign anyone they need too and get a goalie to help they playoff push this year without really affecting their roster.
Mtl take anthoer reclamation,hoping KK being a great 3rd C or maybe a top 6 winger who fit the timely...

Allens 3.85M$ +1 year
Monahan 1,45M$ (UFA) or Dvorak 4.45M$ + 1 year or Evans 1.7M$ + 1 year
+ pick or prospect or Pearson 50%

KK 4.82M$ +5 years
Andersen 3.4M$ +1 year or Raanta 1.5M$ (UFA)
+Prospect

Not sure KK would be thrilled to come back to MTL.
Not sure the Habs want him back at that salary either.

But with Bergevin now gone, anything is possible, i guess.

 

[Draft]

We have that in the pipeline though. I'm not uncertain Beck could fill that 3C position as soon as next year.

I think I’d want to see how his year goes. From what I’ve seen, I don’t think I’d be confident having him play 2C for any length of time. He might be just as well served playing big minutes in Laval. Outside of Beck, it’s pretty slim pickings.

If we can upgrade Anderson or Gallagher… I’m all over that as well

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Carolina just lost 4 in a row are just outside of the playoff, they don't really have significant injuries and have some pretty good competition (DET, NJ, TB).
Their best goalie Andersen a .894 Sv% and injured with blood clotting, Raanta .860 SV%, Kochetkov SV% 8.73...
KK after a hot start like 15pts in 16 games is now 2pts in his last 13games, he is the worst FO% at 46.5 everyone else is above 53% is ice time was cut significantly in the last 2 games, considering how cheap they are plus they don't have much cap space so he might be the odd man out since they will have Teravainen, Necas, Skjei, Pesce going to UFA (Which all play bigger roles) likely all looking for raises with no one of signifiance coming off the books. Carolina should be in peaking with lot of importantplayer being 29yo and over( 4 being UFA), seem like they might have miss there shot by not being aggressive enough in the last few years, they likely to push this year.

MTL has 3 goalie above .900 SV% and 3 C above 52 FO% that could take KK minutes which could fit in the cap. Both team have lot of prospect and pick to add has needed.

Because of the KK situation or history between the 2 teams I'm not sure either are trying to actively help one another, but there seem to be needs and a fit...

Carolina could clear up to 4.4M$ + cap increase which would help them resign anyone they need too and get a goalie to help they playoff push this year without really affecting their roster.
Mtl take anthoer reclamation,hoping KK being a great 3rd C or maybe a top 6 winger who fit the timely...

Allens 3.85M$ +1 year
Monahan 1,45M$ (UFA) or Dvorak 4.45M$ + 1 year or Evans 1.7M$ + 1 year
+ pick or prospect or Pearson 50%

KK 4.82M$ +5 years
Andersen 3.4M$ +1 year or Raanta 1.5M$ (UFA)
+Prospect

Habs are giving up far too much.

 

[calder candidate]

Not sure KK would be thrilled to come back to MTL.
Not sure the Habs want him back at that salary either.

But with Bergevin now gone, anything is possible, i guess.

it help that the management changes but it can’t just be MB, Pretty sure KK would not want to be back in MTL he actively forced is way out and it was pretty messy and not sure the organization or some of is old teammates want him back either…

But he is 23 lock for the next 5 years with good size and some potential, that the kind of player we are looking for + he seem like the odd man out on a team that should be buyers + they most likely add a piece an so the fit on paper is there…

 

[Deus ex machina]

They fact that they're actively trying to improve our middle six at this juncture of the season is bad news for team tank.

I think he was more talking about trading a young D in a package for a young middle 6 or top 6 forward, and probably in the offseason.
If i understood correctly, because it's like he talks in riddles...lol

I think he was speculating more than anything here.

 

[calder candidate]

Habs are giving up far too much.

Allen + one of (Monahan or Dvorak or Evans) + depending of the players or prospect involved

KK + one of (Andersen or Raanta)+ prospect.

Not sure why it would be too much we aren’t giving anyone that part of the long term…

 

[SnapVirus]

Id do Allen vs KK in a heartbeat.

Him, Dach and Slaf next year would be a massive line. And if we can draft a good forward this summer for Suzuki and Caufield. Its turning out sexy.

 

[Habs]

man the NHL, the salary cap, made it so boring during the season. No trades, no cap space, nothing to be excited about.

 

[Scriptor]

Id do Allen vs KK in a heartbeat.

Him, Dach and Slaf next year would be a massive line. And if we can draft a good forward this summer for Suzuki and Caufield. Its turning out sexy.

Won't see the fruits of that before three, four, five years, or more, even if the pick pans out.

After drafting, there is development.

After the development, there are a few years (sometimes several) before the player starts producing at the mean of the production level they will have throughout their career.

Nowadays, fans believe it's automatic for prospects to immediately live up to projections at the NHL level.

That's just not the case on a consistent basis. Even with top-5picks.

 

[Habssince89]

Getting KK back would be awesome. Gorton and Hughes are doing things very differently and I think that is the difference that could make KK want to return. It's not just that MB is gone, it's that both the GM and Coach are a 180 degree flip from MB.

If Carolina got Monahan and a G in return, I think that's a pretty good trade. Monahan would look awesome among those Hurricane forwards. Any additions that would happen for value are TBD, but its a starting point as it actually addresses Carolina's needs.

 

[Deus ex machina]

According to reports, KK had attitude problems in MTL.
Apparently, he was rolling his eyes when the coaches were trying to teach him something.
He wanted out of MTL just because he was scratched in the playoffs.

Maybe he's matured since then, but I'm not sure he's the type of person HuGo want on their team.

 

[Habssince89]

According to reports, KK had attitude problems in MTL.
Apparently, he was rolling his eyes when the coaches were trying to teach him something.
He wanted out of MTL just because he was scratched in the playoffs.

Maybe he's matured since then, but I'm not sure he's the type of person HuGo want on their team.

Don't remember see this other than his complaints about usage in the playoffs. I am skeptical of any media reports of that nature to begin with hah

 

[Kimota]

According to reports, KK had attitude problems in MTL.
Apparently, he was rolling his eyes when the coaches were trying to teach him something.
He wanted out of MTL just because he was scratched in the playoffs.

Maybe he's matured since then, but I'm not sure he's the type of person HuGo want on their team.

Maybe. But give me soneone that's hard to manage but is giving his all than a lazy ass like Dvorak.

 

[Scriptor]

Getting KK back would be awesome. Gorton and Hughes are doing things very differently and I think that is the difference that could make KK want to return. It's not just that MB is gone, it's that both the GM and Coach are a 180 degree flip from MB.

If Carolina got Monahan and a G in return, I think that's a pretty good trade. Monahan would look awesome among those Hurricane forwards. Any additions that would happen for value are TBD, but its a starting point as it actually addresses Carolina's needs.

Slafkovsky - Dach - KK

=

1st OA - 3rd OA - 3rd OA

Maybe better off keeping Slafkovsky with Caufield and Suzuki and having KK - Dach - Roy in the meantime until we trade for an impact forward in the 2025 offseason.