HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[Captain Mountain]

I'm ready to move Anderson because the risk is if he doesn't bounce back, we're stuck with Gallagher and Andreson taking up 12M in cap space for 3 more years after this one. We could use his cap space to sign a good player. And, I do want Ylonen and Roy, and possibly RHP, to get top 9 minutes going forward.

I guess it depends on what "bounce back" means, but the odds of Anderson not bouncing back aren't much worse than the odds of Caufield not being a 25+ goal scorer. I also tend to think its pretty dumb to be concerned about creating cap space for hypotheticals, especially unrealistic ones. Montreal is not expected to be anywhere close to the cap next season. And who exactly are you targeting? Toffoli? Monahan? Stamkos? Duchene?

I also don't see that usage will be that much of an issue going forward. Despite some angry takes, the org has given young guys opportunities. RHP has been getting top-9 minutes, Roy isn't NHL ready yet and Ylonen is getting top-9 minutes now, lets see what he can earn.

 

[Kosseca]

He had chemistry with RHP. So, as it stands now, you just hope RHP-Monahan-Anderson, RHP-Dvo-Anderson, or RHP-Evans-Anderson could work.

one of the things I haven't liked about MSL's line combos this year is that he didn't play RHP with Anderson enough.

I agree with you on MSL line making... he's making very strange decisions

 

[26Mats]

I guess it depends on what "bounce back" means, but the odds of Anderson not bouncing back aren't much worse than the odds of Caufield not being a 25+ goal scorer. I also tend to think its pretty dumb to be concerned about creating cap space for hypotheticals, especially unrealistic ones. Montreal is not expected to be anywhere close to the cap next season. And who exactly are you targeting? Toffoli? Monahan? Stamkos? Duchene?

I also don't see that usage will be that much of an issue going forward. Despite some angry takes, the org has given young guys opportunities. RHP has been getting top-9 minutes, Roy isn't NHL ready yet and Ylonen is getting top-9 minutes now, lets see what he can earn.

i see the odds differently.

 

[HuGort]

I'm ready to move Anderson because the risk is if he doesn't bounce back, we're stuck with Gallagher and Andreson taking up 12M in cap space for 3 more years after this one. We could use his cap space to sign a good player. And, I do want Ylonen and Roy, and possibly RHP, to get top 9 minutes going forward.

Ready to move Anderson? I am sorry to inform you that ship has sailed. Hughes waited too long. No team is going to touch that contract. Time to move him was during last 2 trade deadlines.

 

[sampollock]

Haha won't bring PLD on with that contract
With need stars not tools

 

[McGees]

We also need to revamp the coaching staffs at both the NHL and AHL level. I am not saying MSL needs to go but I feel we could do better with assistant coaches.

Whaddya mean - Alex 'Drop pass' Burrows ain't cutting it?

 

[26Mats]

Ready to move Anderson? I am sorry to inform you that ship has sailed. Hughes waited too long. No team is going to touch that contract. Time to move him was during last 2 trade deadlines.

Yes, if you read the discussion that's what I said. I said I'd move him if we could, but we can't. The poster then said I wouldn't move him now even if we could and I think we could...

 

[McGees]

I was saying to move Anderson as soon as the rebuild started. Many thought that was crazy….but here we are with a 2nd anchor to sit along with Gallagher.

Tradephysical players before they break

 

[eklund the clown]

Anderson is being singled out but i was listening at noon to TSN690 and they mentioned 4 or 5 players that have scored 1 or 2 goals in their last 20 or so games.I think the Marty the magician tricks are getting old.The only ones scoring are defensemen and lately everyone is in the same boat.

 

[ReHabs]

I guess it depends on what "bounce back" means, but the odds of Anderson not bouncing back aren't much worse than the odds of Caufield not being a 25+ goal scorer. I also tend to think its pretty dumb to be concerned about creating cap space for hypotheticals, especially unrealistic ones. Montreal is not expected to be anywhere close to the cap next season. And who exactly are you targeting? Toffoli? Monahan? Stamkos? Duchene?

Cap is valuable in and of itself, but that's besides the point. Anderson doesn't have much of a CV so there isn't a mythical Anderson to bounce back to. He's healthy, he's getting TOI, and he's not contributing.

It's not like there's a conspiracy here, people want to have good players on their team and don't want to feel handcuffed to bad players on big contracts.

I was saying to move Anderson as soon as the rebuild started. Many thought that was crazy….but here we are with a 2nd anchor to sit along with Gallagher.

It's not likely Kent Hughes would trade away his former client. Kent probably has a very good relationship with Josh and sincerely believes in him (and Matheson).

 

[JRichard]

I don't really understand the logic behind this argument. We don't know if Anderson is untradeable or not. It doesn't sound like he is based on reporting.

I also don't see how he's "taking a spot in the top 9 away from a young player". 5v5 the only young guy he could possibly be blocking from a top-9 spot is Ylonen, and its certainly seems like Anderson isn't the reason why Ylonen wasn't/isn't getting opportunities.

I generally don't get why people want to trade Anderson now. For all his clear faults, he's also been one of the unluckiest shooters in the NHL (1st/2nd per Sportlogiq, 3rd by Moneypuck). Why would you want to sell low when there's no immediate pressure and the flat cap environment ends after the season?

Got a chuckle out of « unlucky « shooter. Luck is for the slots machines.

Maybe if Josh wasnt 2nd on team in shots missing the net he would score a little more?

 

[McGees]

It's not likely Kent Hughes would trade away his former client. Kent probably has a very good relationship with Josh and sincerely believes in him (and Matheson).

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I was saying to move Anderson as soon as the rebuild started. Many thought that was crazy….but here we are with a 2nd anchor to sit along with Gallagher.

Tradephysical players before they break

he's not broken he's snake bitten like Caufield should the Habs trade him ?

 

[Scriptor]

He doesn't seem to be working out.

He did amazing in his 1st year, but his shooting percentage was ridiculous like 25, or 30%

His shooting percentage dropped and he's a meh player.

he's not broken he's snake bitten like Caufield should the Habs trade him ?

Montreal has no realCap issues and Anderson is no cancer, nor is Gallagher, as much as I'd get rid of the latter in a heart beat.

Both coming off the books in the 2027 offseason is perfect timing to complete a roster as the rest of it matures. They will provide the Caps pace to sign an impact forward that matches the age group the team's core (28, 29) as an UFA, all for a 3-year window while Suzuki's contract comes to an end.

I don't think that the roster will be one of a contending team until the 2027-2028 season, anyhow, and that would only be on the heels of adding an impact forward via a trade in the 2025 offseason and signing another impact forward as an UFA in the 2027 offseason.

The players drafted early in the upcoming drafts all take years to mature and will still be important to keep a contender window open.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Ready to move Anderson? I am sorry to inform you that ship has sailed. Hughes waited too long. No team is going to touch that contract. Time to move him was during last 2 trade deadlines.

Or Mtl will have to acquire a similar bad contract. 2 players in the wrong city moving for a change of scenery. Is it interesting depends who we'll be stocked with.

 

[The Great Weal]

Habs got bigger issues than Anderson. Ya his contract sucks asshole but he's our most effective forward 5v5 after the 1st line IMO. He's getting paid to bring size, speed, and goalscoring. He's bringing no goalscoring but doing the other two which is not something you can say for someone like Gallagher or Dvorak.

 

[Team_Spirit]

He looked great early on with Washington and then just fell off a cliff.

*J-Roc's voice*

He got buddy with Kuznetsov and burned the candle by both ends for a few years you know what I'm saying?

 

[sandviper]

Whaddya mean - Alex 'Drop pass' Burrows ain't cutting it?

Hey, that lame drop pass actually worked on Saturday. I was stunned when it happened.

 

[sampollock]

Changes need to come one Day

 

[McGees]

he's not broken he's snake bitten like Caufield should the Habs trade him ?

lol ok...he's just like Caufield basically twins

 

[McGees]

Montreal has no realCap issues and Anderson is no cancer, nor is Gallagher, as much as I'd get rid of the latter in a heart beat.

Both coming off the books in the 2027 offseason is perfect timing to complete a roster as the rest of it matures. They will provide the Caps pace to sign an impact forward that matches the age group the team's core (28, 29) as an UFA, all for a 3-year window while Suzuki's contract comes to an end.

I don't think that the roster will be one of a contending team until the 2027-2028 season, anyhow, and that would only be on the heels of adding an impact forward via a trade in the 2025 offseason and signing another impact forward as an UFA in the 2027 offseason.

The players drafted early in the upcoming drafts all take years to mature and will still be important to keep a contender window open.

My main point in trading him was to get value for him before it was lost (which it is) since he wouldn't be a factor by the time this team was ready to compete...not about his cap or locker room presence.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Problem with Andreson for me is that he never develop any chemistry with a C since he got here. If We move ahead with Suzuki and Dach on the two top line, that mean he has to play on the 3rd at best. That is quite a big cap hit on a 3rline guy.

Anderson's issue isn't chemistry. Guy has been setup with enough quality scoring chances by a few members of this team, including Suzuki, Monahan, Slafkovsky & Caufield. His issue is he can't execute on any of these opportunities. He either misses the net or shoots it at the goalie. He seems to have lost all ability to score goals by beating a goalie.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Anderson's issue isn't chemistry. Guy has been setup with enough quality scoring chances by a few members of this team, including Suzuki, Monahan, Slafkovsky & Caufield. His issue is he can't execute on any of these opportunities. He either misses the net or shoots it at the goalie. He seems to have lost all ability to score goals by beating a goalie.

To be fair, it's the same with his teammates.

He's set them up and they've missed.

Something's f***y with this team.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

My main point in trading him was to get value for him before it was lost (which it is) since he wouldn't be a factor by the time this team was ready to compete...not about his cap or locker room presence.

Value isn't lost yet. He has no value now but if he starts putting up points he will. But if the drought continues much longer he is going to have to really get going to have any trade value.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Cap is valuable in and of itself, but that's besides the point. Anderson doesn't have much of a CV so there isn't a mythical Anderson to bounce back to. He's healthy, he's getting TOI, and he's not contributing.

It's not like there's a conspiracy here, people want to have good players on their team and don't want to feel handcuffed to bad players on big contracts.


It's not likely Kent Hughes would trade away his former client. Kent probably has a very good relationship with Josh and sincerely believes in him (and Matheson).

Saying Anderson doesn't have a CV, there's not a conspiracy and then immediately making a conspiratorial claim is one hell of a way to approach it.

Apart from his last season in Columbus (in 26 games) and this season, Anderson tends to shoot around 10%-14%.

I don't even like Anderson as a player and complained about both acquiring him and signing him to his contract. But the consistent trend of fans on here who want to sell low and buy high without considering why that's an awful idea deserves to be called out. Montreal doesn't need the cap space now and behaving as though you do is literally looking to put yourself into an even more difficult situation.

Got a chuckle out of « unlucky « shooter. Luck is for the slots machines.

Maybe if Josh wasnt 2nd on team in shots missing the net he would score a little more?

No, you're right. Statistics has no value at all. Peak analysis is - Just shoot the puck on net!