HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

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If the habs get offered a 1st rd pick for Wifi they should take it. Wifi is a 5/6/7 D and with the org depth at D, another 1st pick can be used to get another Dach type trade.
If you don’t have that next move already line up, I would not move Xhekaj even as a 3pairing he has some skills and the physicality is basically unmatched he is a unique player and has a chair and role to fill on a team a late 1st might not even make the NHL and there aren’t Dach type available every offer.
 
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The player that he has a chance to become is Nichushkin. Kakko is a dominant defensive player, with terrific forechecking ability and is a beast along the boards.

He had 18g, and 40 pts last year, but has taken a step back this year offensively. He's still only 22. He plays his off-wing generally.

I would definitely be interested in getting him, but it doesn't sound like Montreal & NYR like each other too much.
If this bad blood is true (which would be dumb), they definitely won't trade their former 2nd OA pick to us. Adding a rental is a different story but we'd be getting picks from them and not players.
 
Monahan for Kakko does make a lot of sense. Value wise it's probably about right, he checks a lot of boxes that our management seem to value and same goes for the Rangers. It really comes down to how much both sides believe Kakko just needs time/change of scenery to unlock his draft potential.
Why would The NYR give up on Kakko now and also even if he is a 3 liner they need him, if they add Monahan by removing Kakko it is a less of a improvement than adding Monahan for a prospect or pick also they already have the cap space to make it work… I just don’t see a playoff team giving up a roster player because that pretty much a sideway move even if Monahan is better.
 
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Why would The NYR give up on Kakko now and also even if he is a 3 liner they need him, if they add Monahan by removing Kakko it is a less of a improvement than adding Monahan for a prospect or pick also they already have the cap space to make it work… I just don’t see a playoff team giving up a roster player because that pretty much a sideway move even if Monahan is better.
Kakko being shopped is a rumour on the trade board. I assume they are looking to trade him for help during their window.
 
I wouldn't mind Kakko even if he just ends up becoming a 3rd liner for us, the issue is that thanks to the contracts to Armia/Anderson/Gallagher adding Kakko here means that a guy like Roy won't get a chance to play.
I think there's a possibility Armia is movable with 50% retained in the offseason. Though it would suck to use a retention spot on Armia, it may be an option.
 
I think he has certain tools that would make him a Top-6 here. He'd at worst be a Top-9. He would get PP time because with a shot like his, you can't not put him on the PP. In LA, he's on their 4th line, but he is on their PP.

He's got an elite shot and he's got size (6'2" and 209 lbs).

I look at him kind of like I do Newhook. In the sense that he is putting up a decent amount of goals and points for a player stuck down the line-up and not averaging a lot of minutes. But once he comes into a situation where he can play higher in the line-up and be more free, he will thrive.

Before Newhook got hurt, he was on pace for a 25-goal and 46-point season. Before that in Colorado, he was a 13-14 goal and 30 point player averaging between 13-14 minutes of TOI. Kaliyev has been a 13-14 goal and around a 30-point player averaging between 11-13 minutes of TOI.
Kaliyev worth a shot. Bonus he came out of 2019 draft. Lol

Maybe offer Allen? Kings need netminding.
 
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Why would The NYR give up on Kakko now and also even if he is a 3 liner they need him, if they add Monahan by removing Kakko it is a less of a improvement than adding Monahan for a prospect or pick also they already have the cap space to make it work… I just don’t see a playoff team giving up a roster player because that pretty much a sideway move even if Monahan is better.
Well he has less points then Joel Armia so saying they need him as a 3rd liner is probably not true. And sorry but it's not a sideways move if it's a clear upgrade which going from a guy with 6 points to one with 35 is very a big upgrade.

Would they prefer to trade a 1st, that's debateable. If they're given the choice of Kakko or a 1st I don't think it's a given that they choose trading their 1st. Hell if some western playoff team was offering a 1st for Kakko I'm not sure they even turn that down even if it puts them down a roster player.
 
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Reminder that the Habs only have 1 player left they can retain salary on this year. And 2 next year. We retained salary for both Petry and Edmundson. so we can only retain on one of Monohan, Allen, Armia etc
 
Reminder that the Habs only have 1 player left they can retain salary on this year. And 2 next year. We retained salary for both Petry and Edmundson. so we can only retain on one of Monohan, Allen, Armia etc
Only until July 1 though. Doubt we move two.
 
Reminder that the Habs only have 1 player left they can retain salary on this year. And 2 next year. We retained salary for both Petry and Edmundson. so we can only retain on one of Monohan, Allen, Armia etc
I think they could find a 3rd team to retain on Monahan for a 5th or 6th rounder if need be.

I don't think it'll be worth it to retain on Armia or Pearson.

That leaves Allen or Savard.
 
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I think there's a possibility Armia is movable with 50% retained in the offseason. Though it would suck to use a retention spot on Armia, it may be an option.
I don't think you will get much for Armia. Why use a retention spot on him?
Armia is currently playing on the 2nd line. He's not hurting the team.
He has only one other year left on his contract and there's no cap issues for next season.

I think people still want to trade him just out of habit...lol

The big problem left is Gallagher.
 
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Monahan Will be traded for a prospect that isn’t playing in the NHL, picks or a combination of both, the only way a roster player come back is if it is a cap dump a la Tatar.
Cap dump not necessary.........Monahan will have about 400k left in salary.......not much room needed there. Fitting Monahan in salary wise, looks pretty easy.
I absolutely agree it will be prospects, or picks, and don't think anyone off the current lineup from which ever contender bites.

I don't think you will get much for Armia. Why use a retention spot on him?
Armia is currently playing on the 2nd line. He's not hurting the team.
He has only one other year left on his contract and there's no cap issues for next season.

I think people still want to trade him just out of habit...lol

The big problem left is Gallagher.
Armia, in spots, has had a pretty decent season.....15 goals between the Rocket and the Habs.
Still makes too much money for what he does every 7th or 8th game.

Gallagher is an anchor compared to Armia....
 
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I don't think you will get much for Armia. Why use a retention spot on him?
Armia is currently playing on the 2nd line. He's not hurting the team.
He has only one other year left on his contract and there's no cap issues for next season.

I think people still want to trade him just out of habit...lol

The big problem left is Gallagher.

If you read the discussion, we were talking about adding a scoring forward in the offseason, and then finding ways to make room in the top 12 for young players like Joshua Roy...
 
Cap dump not necessary.........Monahan will have about 400k left in salary.......not much room needed there. Fitting Monahan in salary wise, looks pretty easy.
I absolutely agree it will be prospects, or picks, and don't think anyone off the current lineup from which ever contender bites.
I think his cap hit is still 2M though.

Armia, in spots, has had a pretty decent season.....15 goals between the Rocket and the Habs.
Still makes too much money for what he does every 7th or 8th game.

Gallagher is an anchor compared to Armia....
Sure Armia is overpaid, like most players signed as UFAs.
I don't pay his salary, so as long as his cap hit doesn't prevent the Habs from getting another good player, i'm fine with it.
 
I’m the opposite. I’d rather take a shot on a player that seemingly does everything right but just can’t score (kind of like Lehkonen). Kaliyev needs PP time to be successful and there’s no one on the 1st unit that deserves to sit.

There's no way the Habs trade for a guy who stands around doing nothing until the PP where he can wire a shot from the half wall.

Kakko if the relationship with NYR wasn't soured would be worth the gamble. Kaliyev is what he is and has always been what he is.
 
If you read the discussion, we were talking about adding a scoring forward in the offseason, and then finding ways to make room in the top 12 for young players like Joshua Roy...
That's a valid point.
But he can always be sent to Laval if a young player steals his spot. Not ideal but he went without a fuss earlier.
And he'd be available for a call up if need be, like it's happening now.
I really don't see a problem here.
 
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Well he has less points then Joel Armia so saying they need him as a 3rd liner is probably not true. And sorry but it's not a sideways move if it's a clear upgrade which going from a guy with 6 points to one with 35 is very a big upgrade.

Would they prefer to trade a 1st, that's debateable. If they're given the choice of Kakko or a 1st I don't think it's a given that they choose trading their 1st. Hell if some western playoff team was offering a 1st for Kakko I'm not sure they even turn that down even if it puts them down a roster player.
Regardless of how he is performing he is the best they got right now… Just like us Regardless of what you think of him Armia is still significantly better than the next guy in our depth chart. One of the biggest reason NYR is look for a C is that he lost Chytil so they are already down 1 top 9 get rid of Kakko that is 2 top 9, even if Monahan is better than both individually in the playoff it your weakest link that will cost you. Even if they trade Kakko for Monahan they are likely to make an other move to replace Kakko, Kakko might be on the block but I think he will likely return a roster player that isn’t a rental or get move in the off season.
 
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