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HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season
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He's been sitting practices a lot since the season started.
jrom
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CASEY MITTELSTADT is not a bad option, but one would hope that both Suzuki and Dach will bring better production as Cs in the top-6 once the roster is filled with more talent up front and more mature.
2nd line LW? Maybe? It would add C-depth in case of another injury to Dach. We'd still need a scoring RW since both Dach and Mittelstadt are primarily playmakers, even if both of them have better shots than their goal totals account for.
I don't think that Mittelstadt is worth Reinbacher 1 VS 1. He's definitely more proven than the latter, but Montreal needs to bank on a D with Reinbacher's floor as a top-4 RHD if they want to become relevant in a realistic time frame (by 2027-2028). That's three more years played after this season and the team starting to perform in the 4th year after this one.
That's D + 4 behind him for Reinbacher, D + 5 for Hutson, D + 6 for Mailloux and D + 7 for Guhle and Xhekaj, well, wasn't drafted.
If Montreal can draft a power forward sniper at the 2024 draft, we could be all set with Mittelstadt as a LW for the 2nd line.
However, Matheson (at 50%), with perhaps a 2nd round pick thrown in, would need to be the D offered up for Mittelstadt and, with Samuelson, Johnson and Jokiharju on the LD depth chart for the Sabres, Matheson would not be a long term addition to the roster. Would two more years at 2,4375M, after this season, providing a stop-gap, skilled veteran presence for the Sabres be enough to land Mittelstadt?
Hard to say, but you could project the return for Mittelstadt as Matheson and the first round pick he will likely fetch at the trade deadline in the final year of his contract, especially if the Sabres hold back half of the remaining 2,4375M they would be paying for the veteran D (1.21875M only left for the team acquiring him as a rental for a playoff push).
If such a trade can get it done, I think it would be a worthwhile return for Matheson.
Projecting a lineup with Mittelstadt and a 2024 pick such as Cayden Lindstrom makes for an interesting roster where Anderson could be moved and players with a better potential to produce more could be inserted in his place:
Caufield - Suzuki - Slafkovsky
Mittelstadt - Dach - Lindstrom
Newhook - Beck - Roy
Tuch - F.Xhekaj - Heineman
Projection for the 4th line is to add sandpaper with some skill, but, at this stage, it is unimportant because there are plenty of apt candidates already in the system for a 4th line role.
2nd line LW? Maybe? It would add C-depth in case of another injury to Dach. We'd still need a scoring RW since both Dach and Mittelstadt are primarily playmakers, even if both of them have better shots than their goal totals account for.
I don't think that Mittelstadt is worth Reinbacher 1 VS 1. He's definitely more proven than the latter, but Montreal needs to bank on a D with Reinbacher's floor as a top-4 RHD if they want to become relevant in a realistic time frame (by 2027-2028). That's three more years played after this season and the team starting to perform in the 4th year after this one.
That's D + 4 behind him for Reinbacher, D + 5 for Hutson, D + 6 for Mailloux and D + 7 for Guhle and Xhekaj, well, wasn't drafted.
If Montreal can draft a power forward sniper at the 2024 draft, we could be all set with Mittelstadt as a LW for the 2nd line.
However, Matheson (at 50%), with perhaps a 2nd round pick thrown in, would need to be the D offered up for Mittelstadt and, with Samuelson, Johnson and Jokiharju on the LD depth chart for the Sabres, Matheson would not be a long term addition to the roster. Would two more years at 2,4375M, after this season, providing a stop-gap, skilled veteran presence for the Sabres be enough to land Mittelstadt?
Hard to say, but you could project the return for Mittelstadt as Matheson and the first round pick he will likely fetch at the trade deadline in the final year of his contract, especially if the Sabres hold back half of the remaining 2,4375M they would be paying for the veteran D (1.21875M only left for the team acquiring him as a rental for a playoff push).
If such a trade can get it done, I think it would be a worthwhile return for Matheson.
Projecting a lineup with Mittelstadt and a 2024 pick such as Cayden Lindstrom makes for an interesting roster where Anderson could be moved and players with a better potential to produce more could be inserted in his place:
Caufield - Suzuki - Slafkovsky
Mittelstadt - Dach - Lindstrom
Newhook - Beck - Roy
Tuch - F.Xhekaj - Heineman
Projection for the 4th line is to add sandpaper with some skill, but, at this stage, it is unimportant because there are plenty of apt candidates already in the system for a 4th line role.
Vachon23
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No way we refuse to trade Arber for Gauthier that would be a huge mistake
HuGort
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I would ask for a Gauthier type prospect. See what they say. Leonard be ideal
teamfirst
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Do you guy's think we can trade our 6 picks in round 5-6 and 7 for a first round pick
3 7th round picks must be an NHL record
3 7th round picks must be an NHL record
Deebs
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NopeDo you guy's think we can trade our 6 picks in round 5-6 and 7 for a first round pick
3 7th round picks must be an NHL record
teamfirst
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My PS5 started an auto-delete of the hard drive when i proposed this trade in the gameDo you guy's think we can trade our 6 picks in round 5-6 and 7 for a first round pick
3 7th round picks must be an NHL record
It 's a terrible idea. Reinbacher is worth far more. You don't trade even a top 4 d for a 2nd line centre. I would not even consider trading Xjekaj for him. Barro and/or Harris is the highest HuGo should go. And as per his post Peterka and Quinn are at least as good as Mittlestadt. Sabres need Thompson and Cozens to do far more than they are.you could just disagree, instead of accusing someone of huffing fumes because they have a different idea lol. C'mon Deebs, you aren't a rookie here anymore
Exactly. GM's won't even trade a mid 1st for a late 1st and 2nd. The only trades they have the guts to do in that vein is maybe a 3rd for 2 4th's.
eklund the clown
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Well i am not sure if now is the correct time but i would say after or during the draft .There is no way this rebuild is going to last 5- 8 years .You would have an empty Bell Centre after another year or 2 of losing.Besides half of us on here will be dead in another 6 years lol . I can Hughes going after a big name sooner than later.Especially if he can get rid of a couple more contracts.
26Mats
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Reports a few weeks ago were that he re-signed with the agreement with Hughes that he'd be traded to a contender of his choosing by the TDL.
I like Xhekaj, but we'll have to trade some of our LD's for a forward at some point. If a deal for a prospect like Gauthiet is on the table, I do the trade, provided my scouts tell me Gauthier is the real deal.
3 7th round picks would give you maybe a late 5th or 6th, if you find another GM willing to take the low odds. It's best to pad offers for contracts we don't want with those. It always looks better for the club you are trading with. Armia + 5th for ...Do you guy's think we can trade our 6 picks in round 5-6 and 7 for a first round pick
3 7th round picks must be an NHL record
LaP
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I like him too but Xhekaj could be a case of sell high a good GM could have the guts to exploit. I like the kid but Struble is very good too and we have Guhle, Reinbacher, Hutson, Mailloux. ...
Xhekaj is the type of player that makes GM drool all over the place. He's the type of player GMs often grossly overpay for. I think KH should probably at least listen to the offers see what kind of young forward he could get for him.
Dont know if Anaheim (Gauthier) needs a tough guy but Philly sure doesnt with Deslauriers and Hathaway already signed for 1 and 2 more years.
edit: and yes Gauthier would have been a great fit in Mtl, scoring winger with size.
edit: and yes Gauthier would have been a great fit in Mtl, scoring winger with size.
Habs could take Deslauriers back in the trade to be the enforcer for a year or 2.
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They can use other players to make that deal. Deal from strength using undersized or soft LHD. Arber is a need.
That would end up a bad decision imho. If we get Deslauriers it's to waive him so he can play in Laval. I mean he's no longer following the rhythm in the NHL according to Flyers' fans. Makes me think of Gallagher, but with a lot less tools.
How weird would it be to watch Xhekaj beat up a hab. Trade him to a western team if it happens I hope.
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Tendons being held in place by duct tape, hope and a prayer.
Keeping him until the deadline is playing with fire — if a fair return is on the table now, Hughes has to weigh the downside risk.
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Considering that "fair returns" tend to not materialize until closer the deadline, I'm not sure the risk calculus is there right now.
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