HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[Lockin17]

I would love to speed up the rebuild and start competing next year

CC-Suzuki-Slaf
Newhook-Dach-??
RHP-Monahan-Anderson
Dvorak-Evans-Gally
Pezz-Ylonen-Roy

Ghule-Barron
Struble-Savard
Arber-Mailloux
Kovacevic

Monty - Primeau

So : Allen - Harris - Matheson - #8 2024 should be on the table for players that are ready
We need a top 6 RW for sure .

MTL : #8 2024 + Allen
For
Flyers : Zegras or Lafreniere or Batherson

MTL : Matheson + Harris
for
A top 9 winger

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I would love to speed up the rebuild and start competing next year

CC-Suzuki-Slaf
Newhook-Dach-??
RHP-Monahan-Anderson
Dvorak-Evans-Gally
Pezz-Ylonen-Roy

Ghule-Barron
Struble-Savard
Arber-Mailloux
Kovacevic

Monty - Primeau

So : Allen - Harris - Matheson - #8 2024 should be on the table for players that are ready
We need a top 6 RW for sure .

MTL : #8 2024 + Allen
For
Flyers : Zegras or Lafreniere or Batherson

MTL : Matheson + Harris
for
A top 9 winger

8th overall for a one dimensional, soft forward.

A player who brings a bit more, but isn't producing


Batherson, who had a nice contract but had an allergic reaction to playing defense.

Seems like an easy pass on all 3 for the Habs

 

[Pat Riot]

The way Strubble is playing right now and if it continues that way for the rest of the season is value for a trade should be up there. Considering we received a 13th overall for Romanov, IMO Strubble is a better def with more offensive upside plus he hit hard like Romanov and he can fight. This is gonna be interesting to see if Hughes use him for a trade. Between him and Xhekaj who offer a similar style of play I prefer Xhekaj so Strubble would be on the block. What do you think is value is on the market?

For next season our def should be

Matheson-Savard
Guhle-Barron
Xhekaj-Mailloux
Harris

Both Reinbacher and Hutson a full season in the AHL

 

[McGees]

I'm keeping Struble.
It is Matheson/Savard/Barron/Harris/Kovacevic that I'm getting rid of before him.

 

[Pat Riot]

I'm keeping Struble.
It is Matheson/Savard/Barron/Harris/Kovacevic that I'm getting rid of before him.

I like him too but if his value is similar to Romanov on the market I think I trade him. Xhekaj offer a very similar style of play and I would prefer to keep him over Strubble. You need some vet on the D to guide your youngster. Savard should be traded at the deadline next season when you are ready to bring Reinbacher in. Matheson should be trade in 2 season when you are ready to bring Hutson in ( I would let him a season and half in the AHL to build his physical strength). Harris proved he can be versatile playing both left and right side and honestly I think his value would be a lot less than Strubble on the market. If you are offered a grade A youngster a la Dach or a top 13 pick or less for Strubble I would do it

Thats the plan I would follow personally

 

[RationalExpectations]

I'm keeping Struble.
It is Matheson/Savard/Barron/Harris/Kovacevic that I'm getting rid of before him.

Not sure what people have against Barron. Strubble has been very good but he is basically the same age as Barron and has a lot less NHL experience while having being drafted a year earlier. Barron is not perfect, but there is no proof he will be any worse than Strubble down the line.

 

[Pat Riot]

Not sure what people have against Barron. Strubble has been very good but he is basically the same age as Barron and has a lot less NHL experience while having being drafted a year earlier. Barron is not perfect, but there is no proof he will be any worse than Strubble down the line.

He is less physical. More prone to make defensive mistake but hes way more offensive. He can work on his defense but obviously will never be a Norris trophy winner, Strubble neither for that matters. I like Barron and think hes a keeper. Im not a big fan of playing Def on the wrong side and we need RD compare to LD which we have plenty to spare hence why Im more incline in trading Strubble

 

[RationalExpectations]

He is less physical. More prone to make defensive mistake but hes way more offensive. He can work on his defense but obviously will never be a Norris trophy winner, Strubble neither for that matters. I like Barron and think hes a keeper. Im not a big fan of playing Def on the wrong side and we need RD compare to LD which we have plenty to spare hence why Im more incline in trading Strubble

For sure he is more offensively inclined. But what I find funny is that people have more faith in Mailloux than him whereas Mailloux makes just as many defensive mistakes at the lower level. He falls less but he is also a turnover machine.

 

[le_sean]

Not sure what people have against Barron. Strubble has been very good but he is basically the same age as Barron and has a lot less NHL experience while having being drafted a year earlier. Barron is not perfect, but there is no proof he will be any worse than Strubble down the line.

Struble is far better defensively, much more physical and he’s better on the breakout. All Barron does is shoot more, but Struble will gain confidence and get to that point himself.

 

[RationalExpectations]

Struble is far better defensively, much more physical and he’s better on the breakout. All Barron does is shoot more, but Struble will gain confidence and get to that point himself.

Seems like he was waiting for the NhL to put up points then..

 

[le_sean]

Seems like he was waiting for the NhL to put up points then..

I’m not saying he’ll produce as much, but that Barron’s offence is mostly from shooting. He’s not some prolific playmaker on the backend.

 

[Sterling Archer]

I’d trade Harris, Savard, Matheson in the next year or so to make space. Eventual D pairings:

Hutson Reinbacher
Struble Guhle
Xhekaj Mailloux
Barron

That’s my core D at the moment.

Not trading Xhekaj, Guhle, Hutson or Reinbacher unless deal is too good to pass up.

 

[RationalExpectations]

I’m not saying he’ll produce as much, but that Barron’s offence is mostly from shooting. He’s not some prolific playmaker on the backend.

He is better than many give him credit for. At best he plays on a crappy PP2.

 

[Rapala]

No freaken way we start another 300 page thread that will go nowhere.

We should count ourselves lucky Laf. picked up his game.

 

[le_sean]

He is better than many give him credit for. At best he plays on a crappy PP2.

But he’s not nearly as good offensively as Mailloux and Hutson. So I don’t really see much use for him moving forward unless his defensive game takes a 180.

 

[McGees]

Not sure what people have against Barron. Strubble has been very good but he is basically the same age as Barron and has a lot less NHL experience while having being drafted a year earlier. Barron is not perfect, but there is no proof he will be any worse than Strubble down the line.

They are different players. Struble is much more steady and better defensive and all around. Barron is a future Matheson imo. With more offensive upside but no grit and more giveaway/defensive lapses.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I’d trade Harris, Savard, Matheson in the next year or so to make space. Eventual D pairings:

Hutson Reinbacher
Struble Guhle
Xhekaj Mailloux
Barron

That’s my core D at the moment.

Not trading Xhekaj, Guhle, Hutson or Reinbacher unless deal is too good to pass up.

Thats a dcore full of homegrown talents that doesn't happen.

Habs will need to sign a vet, or two if they trade Matheson and Savard.

 

[Kimota]

Evans, Dvorak… I’m not big fans but c’mon… PLD is now in his prime and he’s showing us nothing on a strong team. He was arguably on a strong, or at least stronger than us team previously on the Jets. He was one of the go-to guys on the BJ’s.

I do think he’s more talented than he’s showing but work ethic, drive and turning on that “kill switch” is not nearly as consistent as it should be for a guy with his skills and salary.

I maintain that Dubois could be better with a harder coach like Torto. He just needs to be whiped(that's what she said).

 

[Deus ex machina]

Not sure what people have against Barron. Strubble has been very good but he is basically the same age as Barron and has a lot less NHL experience while having being drafted a year earlier. Barron is not perfect, but there is no proof he will be any worse than Strubble down the line.

From watching the games, it's clear to me that Barron will be worse than Struble down the line. Not even close.

Barron is bigger but soft and too slow to react.
When he's on the ice, they get stuck in their zone more often than not because of that.
He has good straight ahead speed, has a good shot and can make a good pass, when he has the time.
But he's having trouble keeping up with the NHL pace.

Struble is pretty much the opposite. He's smaller but stronger, more dynamic, physical and agile.
He's quick to react and makes good decisions, and that leads to more effective breakouts.

Struble's a keeper.
They should trade Barron before he loses all value.

 

[Pat Riot]

From watching the games, it's clear to me that Barron will be worse than Struble down the line. Not even close.

Barron is bigger but soft and too slow to react.
When he's on the ice, they get stuck in their zone more often than not because of that.
He has good straight ahead speed, has a good shot and can make a good pass, when he has the time.
But he's having trouble keeping up with the NHL pace.

Struble is pretty much the opposite. He's smaller but stronger, more dynamic, physical and agile.
He's quick to react and makes good decisions, and that leads to more effective breakouts.

Struble's a keeper.
They should trade Barron before he loses all value.

You seem to underestimate the learning curve of a young def. Barron is still very green. Offensive instinct is really hard to teach to a def, either he has it or he doesnt. Barron clearly has it and he has a great shot. I think with more time he can learn to minimize his defensive flaws. You are disregarding him very quickly by stating he could lose all his value.

I like to pair a offensive D with a more defensive D. A great balance for our future D corp could look like that

Hutson(off.)-Reinbacher(def)
Guhle(def.)-Barron(off)
Xhekaj(def)-Mailloux(off)
Harris(versatile can play both LD and RD)

It comes down to which one we prefer to keep between Xhekaj and Strubble. For me its Xhekaj. I really like Struble tho and I think he can bring the same kind of return in a trade as Romanov. We are talking a player like Dach or a top 15 pick

 

[salbutera]

Not sure what people have against Barron. Strubble has been very good but he is basically the same age as Barron and has a lot less NHL experience while having being drafted a year earlier. Barron is not perfect, but there is no proof he will be any worse than Strubble down the line.

Barron will never bring the physicality of Struble which immediately makes the latter a higher valued commodity due to playoff attribute benefit

 

[Habricot]

The way Strubble is playing right now and if it continues that way for the rest of the season is value for a trade should be up there. Considering we received a 13th overall for Romanov, IMO Strubble is a better def with more offensive upside plus he hit hard like Romanov and he can fight. This is gonna be interesting to see if Hughes use him for a trade. Between him and Xhekaj who offer a similar style of play I prefer Xhekaj so Strubble would be on the block. What do you think is value is on the market?

For next season our def should be

Matheson-Savard
Guhle-Barron
Xhekaj-Mailloux
Harris

Both Reinbacher and Hutson a full season in the AHL

I would prefer the following pairs next year.
Matheson - Ghule
Struble - Savard
Xehkaj - Mailloux
Harris, Barron and Kovacevic

 

[Fazkovsky]

I would do the cleanup . Trade Harris, evans , Monahan , Savard , Matheson since his value is high, Allen etc Keep Anderson and make him play 3rd line with a playmaker. Keep XHEKAJ and Barron

Oh and Cody Glass could be a great option for 3C. And a possible Evans replacement . Nashville has good depth at C. He is still young. I like evans as a 4C though , defensively he was solid tonight

 

[The Great Weal]

Ya Harris and Barron have to be gone for next year.

 

[calder candidate]

I would love to speed up the rebuild and start competing next year

CC-Suzuki-Slaf
Newhook-Dach-??
RHP-Monahan-Anderson
Dvorak-Evans-Gally
Pezz-Ylonen-Roy

Ghule-Barron
Struble-Savard
Arber-Mailloux
Kovacevic

Monty - Primeau

So : Allen - Harris - Matheson - #8 2024 should be on the table for players that are ready
We need a top 6 RW for sure .

MTL : #8 2024 + Allen
For
Flyers : Zegras or Lafreniere or Batherson

MTL : Matheson + Harris
for
A top 9 winger

Matheson with 2 more years sub 5M$ he is top 10 in ice time (6th) and point (12th) while being on a pretty avg team… He is worth a hell of a lot more than a top 9 winger to start adding Harris

Ana, NYR and Ott are all at trying to win now or further alone in their rebuild… Not sure they are looking for picks