HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #85 - Offseason Editon

[Adam Michaels]

Campbell going on waivers as per Friedman.

 

[Deus ex machina]

There is only 10 games played, the past season Allen wasn’t better than those guys. They need to wait for a real #1 Goalie or someone that can be at least a 1b not a goalie. Allen can’t do that and won’t change anything for EDM

We're not in the past season now. Allen is playing good this season, for whatever reason. I think he was hurt last year.
Performances vary from season to season. I'm sure you're aware.

I think Allen is actually a good 1b. He's not a 1a, i'll give you that.
They still can get a 1a later, but it's been how many years now looking for a real #1?
They're not that easy to find.
They need a stop gap now.

 

[red devil]

Speculation they will call up Calvin Pickard

They are on a road trip so they need a backup goalie but Pickard is definitely not the answer to their problem

 

[Miller Time]

Funny that they waive him after Skinner sh*t the bed last night...

What a dumpster fire

 

[NORiculous]

No idea how… but with all the talk of “McDavid must go” on the main board, I can only dream of Hughes doing some magic.

Obviously EDM will do anything they can to prevent this. But I remember when Pronger went to the finals and just left. So…

Anyway, almost no chance of happening but can you imagine the shit show in EDM if it does? Not necessarily to MTL but just happens.

 

[Runner77]

Throw in the fact we're giving up JB and Kovacop, it just can't be done. Just my opinion of course.

Did you come up with Kovacop? It's absolutely brilliant.

I knew that Kovacevic looked like someone familiar. He's got that squarish jawline, imposing stature, a mean resting face and can become a loose cannon on occasion. Kovacop is the perfect moniker.

If you came up with it, then props. I'll definitely be using it.

 

[Habs]

No idea how… but with all the talk of “McDavid must go” on the main board, I can only dream of Hughes doing some magic.

Obviously EDM will do anything they can to prevent this. But I remember when Pronger went to the finals and just left. So…

Anyway, almost no chance of happening but can you imagine the shit show in EDM if it does? Not necessarily to MTL but just happens.

Yeah, nobody is that insane to trade another Oiler great, it would probably put his life at risk.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

No idea how… but with all the talk of “McDavid must go” on the main board, I can only dream of Hughes doing some magic.

Obviously EDM will do anything they can to prevent this. But I remember when Pronger went to the finals and just left. So…

Anyway, almost no chance of happening but can you imagine the shit show in EDM if it does? Not necessarily to MTL but just happens.

People want McDavid traded so his prime isn't wasted.

His prime is still wasted here.

 

[NORiculous]

People want McDavid traded so his prime isn't wasted.

His prime is still wasted here.

Yeah I get the idea.

While not impossible, I still have a hard time seeing someone have the balls to trade him for parts that will never add up to his loss. (Specially this year and next year)

If then they can’t agree on a contract extension, then sure the odds go up.

 

[DAChampion]

I don't see how Bettman can force Edmonton to trade McDavid.

 

[Runner77]

 

[Deus ex machina]

Why in hell would we do that?

In my book Barron is as good a prospect as Holloway if not slightly better. Ceci is awful and is paid a good 500 000 too much. Rodrigue is a nothing burger suspect at this point. To even consider this you have to change Barron by Kova from the offer and probably make the pick top 3 protected instead of top 10.

Yes, like i wrote before, Ceci is not good. That's why he's a cap dump.
You have to put yourself in the other's team shoes too.
Kovy is a 3rd pairing guy, not much better than Ceci, if at all.
Would you give basically a potential top 15 pick and Holloway for Allen and 1.5M of cap space?

 

[HuGort]

Amusingly, I think there is way more chance that the Habs get paid to take Campbell's awful contract, than Habs trade any none-UFA this season. Kent Hughes has no issue trading the Habs cap space.

That's a hard contract to take on

 

[Runner77]

That's a hard contract to take on

I don’t know how the Habs can afford to take on such a bloated contract for a mediocre player at best. Only way out is for the Oilers to buy that contract in the summer and send over some other player on a shorter deal, as a dump.

What in the world was Holland thinking when he floated that huge contract to Campbell? It’s not as if Campbell’s shortcomings were not well documented.

 

[HuGort]

I don’t know how the Habs can afford to take on such a bloated contract for a mediocre player at best. Only way out is for the Oilers to buy that contract in the summer and send over some other player on a shorter deal, as a dump.

What in the world was Holland thinking when he floated that huge contract to Campbell? It’s not as if Campbell’s shortcomings were not well documented.

Campbell should be better, he's career .909% save Percentage. Some of that has to be Oilers defense

 

[Deebs]

Did you come up with Kovacop? It's absolutely brilliant.

I knew that Kovacevic looked like someone familiar. He's got that squarish jawline, imposing stature, a mean resting face and can become a loose cannon on occasion. Kovacop is the perfect moniker.

If you came up with it, then props. I'll definitely be using it.

I have it trademarked but I'll let it slide on here

 

[Captain Mountain]

I don’t know how the Habs can afford to take on such a bloated contract for a mediocre player at best. Only way out is for the Oilers to buy that contract in the summer and send over some other player on a shorter deal, as a dump.

What in the world was Holland thinking when he floated that huge contract to Campbell? It’s not as if Campbell’s shortcomings were not well documented.

I could see Montreal taking on Campbell's contract assuming Allen was going the other way, but I don't see Edmonton paying the price Montreal (or any team) would ask for. The term is the big issue, San Jose may be the only team that wouldn't at least hope to be spending in 3-4 seasons.

Oilers were desperate for goaltending and its nearly impossible to not make serious mistakes in free agency.

 

[sampollock]

I don’t know how the Habs can afford to take on such a bloated contract for a mediocre player at best. Only way out is for the Oilers to buy that contract in the summer and send over some other player on a shorter deal, as a dump.

What in the world was Holland thinking when he floated that huge contract to Campbell? It’s not as if Campbell’s shortcomings were not well documented.

SURE would have to be a sweet deal

 

[Jaynki]

My guys, we are not getting Campbell even if for a 1st or anything (unless its their 24 unprotected 1st maybe)

His contract will end when Suzuki will be at half his 8 year deal. Its such a big handicap.

Only way i see Campbell coming to MTL would be on a broader deal with Draisaitl or McDavid. Otherwise Campbell is their problem.

Maybe we can talk if they suggest their unprotected 1st back and take Allen back.

 

[Runner77]

I could see Montreal taking on Campbell's contract assuming Allen was going the other way, but I don't see Edmonton paying the price Montreal (or any team) would ask for. The term is the big issue, San Jose may be the only team that wouldn't at least hope to be spending in 3-4 seasons.

Oilers were desperate for goaltending and its nearly impossible to not make serious mistakes in free agency.

Oilers don't exactly get the pick of the litter in free agency so we can assume that played a part.

 

[Bottle Rocket]

Edmonton has limited options. They can pray Skiner/Pickard catch fire or Campbell puts it together in the meantime.

Gibson and his 4 years? The extra must be good for Anaheim to do that.

Lankinen from Nashville? Is it truly an upgrade?

Can Cal Peterson catch fire? At least it's only two years not four at that salary.

Markstrom, Demko? Why would they help Edmonton, a direct rival...

Elvis? Is it that much better? At least the two teams exchange underperforming 4 year goalie contracts.

I like where this is going for the Habs. And there's LA and others with shaky pairs. Let the offers rise and sell a goalie when it's high!

 

[HuGo Sham]

I don’t know how the Habs can afford to take on such a bloated contract for a mediocre player at best. Only way out is for the Oilers to buy that contract in the summer and send over some other player on a shorter deal, as a dump.

What in the world was Holland thinking when he floated that huge contract to Campbell? It’s not as if Campbell’s shortcomings were not well documented.

this is the clue to your answer, my friend

 

[Captain Mountain]

Oilers don't exactly get the pick of the litter in free agency so we can assume that played a part.

I guess, but I'd lean more towards teams not valuing goalies properly. Campbell's contract is the worst of the recent ones, but its far from the only one. Look at a list of goalie contracts:

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Teams want stable goaltending, but in recent years even great goalies go through swings. When looking at more mediocre guys, the highs and lows are a lot more noticeable. Like, Ottawa traded Gustavsson for Talbot hoping Talbot would be better. He wasn't in Ottawa, but has been great in LA to start the year. They then spent on Korpisalo who has been pretty unspectacular.

Or look at Montreal's goaltending. We had people complaining about Montembault's contract and then he was great last season. Then people complained about Allen's contract, but Allen has been noticeably better than Montembault so far this season.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Edmonton has limited options. They can pray Skiner/Pickard catch fire or Campbell puts it together in the meantime.

Gibson and his 4 years? The extra must be good for Anaheim to do that.

Lankinen from Nashville? Is it truly an upgrade?

Can Cal Peterson catch fire? At least it's only two years not four at that salary.

Markstrom, Demko? Why would they help Edmonton, a direct rival...

Elvis? Is it that much better? At least the two teams exchange underperforming 4 year goalie contracts.

I like where this is going for the Habs. And there's LA and others with shaky pairs. Let the offers rise and sell a goalie when it's high!

Vancouver is playing really well, so Demko isn't available.

Markstrom is just another shakey goalie.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Reda just said on insider trading that Edm has made all 1st and prospects available for trade. They’re in their window and open to trade them.