HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #85 - Offseason Editon

[ReHabs]

The issue is that ANA is so deep with D prospects : Mintyukov, Luneau, Zeelweger, Drysdale is quite good of a pool.

Also I am convinced Zegras has the will to wow but not sure he has the will to win ( seems uninterested in physical battles and defensive chores)

I’m all set with taking a risk on one (1) skilled dangler after dozens of intangibles plumbers.

I think you can leverage skill to achieve anything, but you cannot turn a plumber into a skill player. And Le Gros Jean up above knows how desperately we have been parched for skilled forwards.

If ANA doesn’t need a dman prospect that’s fair enough but I don’t think their GM has any interest in our shrimpy indistinguishable forward prospects either. So, what do we do…

 

[RationalExpectations]

I’m all set with taking a risk on one (1) skilled dangler after dozens of intangibles plumbers.

I think you can leverage skill to achieve anything, but you cannot turn a plumber into a skill player. And Le Gros Jean up above knows how desperately we have been parched for skilled forwards.

If ANA doesn’t need a dman prospect that’s fair enough but I don’t think their GM has any interest in our shrimpy indistinguishable forward prospects either. So, what do we do…

I don t think there is a trade fit for Zegras in terms of ANA needs unfortunately.

I agree he would add skill and as much as I have my doubts I would understand the GM trading for him but there is no doubt ANA would refuse anything not including Caufield Suzuki or Dach, which are all non starters

 

[salbutera]

The issue is that ANA is so deep with D prospects : Mintyukov, Luneau, Zeelweger, Drysdale is quite good of a pool.

Also I am convinced Zegras has the will to wow but not sure he has the will to win ( seems uninterested in physical battles and defensive chores)

That’s the jackpot question - MSL is best positioned to have deep knowledge given he knew him from youth hockey having coached him w Mid Fairfield

 

[morhilane]

Also I am convinced Zegras has the will to wow but not sure he has the will to win ( seems uninterested in physical battles and defensive chores)

Everything point to Zegras being all flashes, no substances currently.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Everything point to Zegras being all flashes, no substances currently.

I don’t know about that. He screams elite offensive talent. Great hockey IQ and playmaker. He’s only 22 and will come into his own soon. Put him with MSL and I can see his offence explode.

The only downside I see is that the Habs need a natural shooter like Caufield to compliment their forward group. If Slaf can develop into that, Zegras would be just fine on a Habs team desperate for elite offensive talent. He’d absolutely make the team better and make the fans standup in their seats with his skill. I don’t know how any team wouldn’t be interested in him.

 

[Runner77]

Everything point to Zegras being all flashes, no substances currently.

It did cross my mind that there may be substances he could be on, but I digress.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I'd pick Belzile on waivers and waive Evans. We need a good fourth line to start the season. What is Evans even bringing right now? A bit of speed?

Speed, faceoffs, defensive reliability, more of an NHL vet.

Evans may be overpaid, but Belzile is truly a low end player. He went to the Rangers for a chance to be a regular so he can stay there, too.

 

[Runner77]

Is Primeau really worth anything on the trade front? Could see him as a stopgap for an org. having an immediate need for a back up but probably only if he can be had further to a waiver claim.

Who would pay anything of value for him?

 

[morhilane]

Is Primeau really worth anything on the trade front? Could see him as a stopgap for an org. having an immediate need for a back up but probablynonly as a waiver claim. Who would pay anything of value for him?

Colorado and Tampa are short a goalie for a few months. Columbus just claimed Spencer Martin yesterday and I read one of their goalies isn't at 100%. There will be a few more goalies waived soon, but I think Primeau is one of the better ones despite his lack of NHL record.

 

[DAChampion]

It does look like the Allen extension is the most significant known blunder of HuGo.

 

[Runner77]

Colorado and Tampa are short a goalie for a few months. Columbus just claimed Spencer Martin yesterday and I read one of their goalies isn't at 100%. There will be a few more goalies waived soon, but I think Primeau is one of the better ones despite his lack of NHL record.

It’s one thing to waive him and see him getting claimed. However, what would be the point of the Habs carrying 3 goalies on their NHL roster if Primeau’s value on the trading market is minimal?

We have seen far too many times how a ménage à trois won’t work.

 

[DAChampion]

We have seen far too many times how a ménage à trois won’t work.

FYI this is a family site.

 

[Bottle Rocket]

Is Primeau really worth anything on the trade front? Could see him as a stopgap for an org. having an immediate need for a back up but probably only if he can be had further to a waiver claim.

Who would pay anything of value for him on the trade front?

Technically they would be carrying 4 goalies if they want to put Price on LTIR after the initial lineup is released and keep Pimeau up.

If they trade Primeau they should go get another NHL/AHL goalie tweener that got through waiver. Or sign Mann to NHL if they feel he's good enough, like Houser for Buffalo. Dobes would not be ready in case of emergency and they have nobody else. I understand they'd be hesitant to trade Primeau or waive him until all backup spots in the league to replace hurt players are filled.

 

[morhilane]

It does look like the Allen extension is the most significant known blunder of HuGo.

Not really, the team had nobody ready in the backup or starter capacity when they extended him. Now Monty took the starter job, but it's more because he's less injury prone than Allen than because he's better. Primeau is the 2nd back-up, but doesn't appear to have the mental to play in Montréal. Dobes just turned pro...

It’s one thing to waive him and see him getting claimed. However, what would be the point of the Habs carrying 3 goalies in their NHL roster if Primeau’s value on the trading market is minimal?

We have seen far too many times how a ménage à trois won’t work.

I personally don't see the point either, unless Allen isn't at 100%. They don't want to have to recall Dobes so early in his pro career if Primeau gets claimed off waivers I suspect...

 

[Runner77]

 

[Hins77]

It does look like the Allen extension is the most significant known blunder of HuGo.

I would waive Allen before primeau. Montembeault is better than Allen and I would take a risk with Primeau cause he still only 24 years old. Allen is overpaid and on the decline

 

[DAChampion]

I would waive Allen before primeau. Montembeault is better than Allen and I would take a risk with Primeau cause he still only 24 years old. Allen is overpaid and on the decline

I'll be surprised if HuGo is willing to waive players like Allen and Armia.

 

[Sterling Archer]

It does look like the Allen extension is the most significant known blunder of HuGo.

I hated it then, and I hate it now.

 

[Deus ex machina]

Gorton said it himself in a LaPresse interview that they're willing to start with 3 goalies.

 

[26Mats]

The problem is, if Primeau isn't ready to win a job, that means he needs to play to continue to develop. He'd be better off in Laval than as a 3rd wheel here.

Though maybe they'll let each goalie play one every 3 games. I'd still rather Primeau play 50 games at this stage of his career.

 

[Habssince89]

Speed, faceoffs, defensive reliability, more of an NHL vet.

Evans may be overpaid, but Belzile is truly a low end player. He went to the Rangers for a chance to be a regular so he can stay there, too.

evans is an asset. a boring one but one nonetheless. definitely want him around

 

[A55P2]

Speed, faceoffs, defensive reliability, more of an NHL vet.

Evans may be overpaid, but Belzile is truly a low end player. He went to the Rangers for a chance to be a regular so he can stay there, too.

To each his own, but I disagree.

Our fourth line basically has zero impacts on the game when Evans is on it. They're running around chasing the puck. Meanwhile, our fourth line was often our best line last year.

I know Evans is more known, he's played more games and such, but I'm speaking from what I'm seeing. Belzile is a much better player than him as far as I'm concerned.

 

[salbutera]

Is Primeau really worth anything on the trade front? Could see him as a stopgap for an org. having an immediate need for a back up but probably only if he can be had further to a waiver claim.

Who would pay anything of value for him?

What’s TBay‘s current option for first 4-8 weeks of the season and even then Vasilevsky’s 65GP seasons are likely a thing of the past given chronic nature of back injuries ..

Vasilevsky’s back may turn into Price’s hip/knee issues over last 6-years (slow & steady degradation).

Ironically both workhorses would be 29-30 when chronic injuries started slowly taking over …

 

[TT1]

They have to retain on 1 of Armia/Allen/Gally and move them, just gotta figure out which 1.. if they can retain 2M on Gally and move him it would be worth it.

I think they can swap contracts for Armia and Allen because they only have 1+ season left (after this 1). Could just waive whoever they get afterwards.

 

[Ezpz]

If you can dump Allen and take back another bad contract at a different position that would be ideal. Something like Allen for Arvidsson. Assuming LA doesn't want to start the season with two goalies that aren't NHLers.