HabsWhiteKnightLOL
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dude Mesar hasnt proved shit he just got drafted. Id take Dubois and run if it was the offer with cap dump lmao.
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Sure, but if you burn your 1st overall with that move... It doesn't look great.
Mesar for Dubois? Fine. But I'm giving nothing else of value especially since the Jets have zero power in this. Worst they can do is hang onto him and hurt his value more.
I'm interested in Dubois for the reason you stated. He wants to play here.
At the same time, I'm worried he couldn't handle the media.
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This is ridiculous. Slafkovsky would be a colossal idiot to throw a stink over this and I would imagine his agent would get close to sacking him for it.
Mesar for Dubois is an instant no-brainer. There is no way the deal will remotely look like that. As for Dubois, who knows, maybe it's me being positive, but I get the feeling that a guy who's willing to tell two different franchises to go f*** themselves so he can play for you isn't going to get shaken by the media pressure.
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You really think that's what Chevy is asking for?
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His agent wouldn't sack him. That's ridiculous.
If you don't think moving Mesar would piss him off and potentially cause a slow start, you're out to lunch.
I never said he'd refuse to play or anything.
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Non-generational rookie who was a surprise at 1st overall gets pissed off because his new team deals a guy he likes for a young top-6 center would be a disastrous move on his end. His entire support system would tell him not to do that. This is absurd.
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Maybe Hoffman (2x4.5) to Vancouver for Poolman (3x2.5) in a bad contract for bad contract swap for an RD?
HabsWhiteKnightLOL
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Chevy is probably asking the moon but can't because GMs knows he wants out in 2 years max. Then if TRUE , He wants Montreal only. His demands can't be that high. Hugues would have the card.
Gorton was there when they got Trouba for like nothing , Gorton knows that Chevy had no power back then and still has none.
Florida first pick top 10 protected + Dvorak and a B prospect like Harris and maybe Byron as cap dump is probably the only he will get. His Laine trade was bad to begin with because Laine was not the problem.
Not a bad option to shred 2m but add 1 year and but him on the third pair.
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Yeah, I'm done with this. You're right. He's a robot, not a human being.
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Reading Jets fans' posts has actually made me dumber. I was rooting for them if we lost before the Scheifele hit and they have become one of my least favourite teams in the league now lol. Some guy thought that at the time of the trade Trouba was only a #3 dman and that Pionk was a #4 dman so #4 dman+1st for a #3 dman that wanted out proves that Chevy won't be bullied.
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You're totally missing the point. I'm not saying he shouldn't be bummed on a person-to-person level. But there's a chasm between that and throwing a stink in public weeks after getting drafted.
Do you not see the difference?
BLONG7
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Who knows what he is asking for, but one thing for sure, he has no leverage............Hughes does.
Tough for Chevy.
Get the best possible deal and move on............getting PLD for Laine was a mistake. And, here we are.
le_sean
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Mistake wasn’t getting PLD for Laine. The mistake was choosing his shithead veterans like Scheifele and Wheeler over a great young star like Laine. Now everyone in Winnipeg is miserable. Boring city, bad locker room. Chevy dug his own grave here.
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Have some PRIDE, Eric...
...Vancouver are already over $2 mill over the Cap...they are truly in Cap Hell...
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It's hard not to choose Scheifele or Wheeler, both are (were) massive players and committed to playing in Winterpeg. It's a problem that they became rotten and stunk up the lockerroom but it's understandable why Chevy didn't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater -- he still believed in that core.
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I get why they did it, those are two great players. But it should have been the first warning for Chevy. Something was rotten with the team. Now he’s hanging on to a core that has shown it’s not good enough to compete.
BLONG7
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Locker room drama, no matter how you slice it, it seems no one wants to stay there...........and they thought Kane was the big issue, and he may have been one, but man seriously disfunctional in the Peg right now.
Still think Hughes should not give in and overpay if Dubois wants out...
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Chevy's in no-man's land with that roster, that's for sure. He's going to need to reshuffle and retool at least but it's hard to do with an organization that is in no way secure in its ability to build a winning or competitive team. He probably thinks a bird in hand (Wheeler, Scheifele et al.) is closer to competition than potential two in bush (sell and rebuild, and hope it actually gets built back up).
Something that is important to underline is this: nearly nobody wants to play in Winnipeg.
If I'm a competitive person I'd be inclined toward keeping Schiefele and Wheeler and Helleybuck and trying to making it work too.
Selling PLD for spare parts won't help him... but spare parts might be all he can get if PLD is playing hardball. Who would give serious assets for a player they have to sign to a 2year 8m per year contract?
Chevy will get a 1st round pick... and a solid NHLer signed with term... and a solid prospect... and that's it. Give or take a cap dump.
Would you do Dvorak + FLA 1st (top10 protected) + Sean Farrell + Byron?
It's an interesting trade because for the first time in a long time there is a player who wants to join the Habs but for whatever reason some Habs fans are so used to the Ancien Régime that they think trades are unnecessary and holding onto late round 1st round picks with tight, white knuckles is the only way a team should operate.
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We're seeing the same arguments against trading for Dubois that we saw against trading for O'Reilly. O'Reilly is obviously the better player but the philosophy behind those arguments were wrong then and they're wrong now.
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LOL you are losing it Weeksy, SJ twitter broke it 25 min ago lol:
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Weekes is going to break the next hockey news in my bedroom in the middle of the night while I'm sleeping
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Yes I would do it instantly, even if it’s only to turn around and shop Barrie (easier to move a RD then Hoffman).
BigDaddyLurch
Have some PRIDE, Eric...
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