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HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #79

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Spring in Fialta said:
Personally, I'd venture to say that someone who hasn't hesitated to tell two teams to go f*** themselves to try and come here would be able to handle the pressure here.
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Would he? Or would it upset him and he'd tell us to go f*** ourselves?
 
Natey said:
Would he? Or would it upset him and he'd tell us to go f*** ourselves?
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I'd be willing to take that risk. The upside is too good and important. You can have that fear for any player but why in the world would you not take that chance on a guy who seems to be all-in on your franchise? It seems to be the reason he's requesting trades/refusing long-term deals in the first place.
 
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Natey said:
Well they should nitpick for sure, but it shouldn't be things like "we're rebuilding!" it should be discussions about whether management thinks PLD could last in this market with the media pressure, etc.


Holy shit I wish people would delete Weekes off Twitter.

He posts these huge *BREAKING NEWS* stories with terrible video clips 30 minutes after the ACTUAL TEAM HAS ANNOUNCED THE MOVE. It's insane.

He's the absolute worst.
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I love Weekes. He's fun and I love his videos.
 
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If price comes out and hits LTIR right away while signalling that he is retiring, we could ship that contract out pretty quickly me thinks and get a similar deal to Weber, relieve another teams cap space of FA deadweight and maybe get a draftpick. Either way 10 mil cap space will allow KH an abundance of options
 
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A few things that make me iffy about getting PLD.

-Nice that he wants to come here but that's approaching it in reverse. We should be targeting players that make sense for what we're trying to build, not trade just because a player practically begged us to do so.

-Salary demands. I assume he'll want to get similar money to Suzuki, which imo is quite a lot for a roughly 60pts guy. Maybe there's untapped potential but nothing indicates it to me. We're trying to dig us out of cap hell, not get straight back in it. Also have to factor in the opportunity cost of not being able to acquire free assets from cap strapped teams if we sign PLD to big money.

-Assets cost. No real idea what the actual cost will be but Jets have no obligation to let him go for cheap. Even as a two-year rental, he can still command a significant return. Those lost assets (1st/2nds/D prospects) thrown around are assets we won't have to fix the D-core, whether through draft or trade. Do I need to remind you guys how much work we have yet to do on our D sooner or later?

So all in all, given that HuGo would've targetted that profile either way, that he somehow signs at a hometown discount and that we actually get the Jets to fold, it might turn out well. Otherwise, I think the downsides might outweight the pros.
 
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Spring in Fialta said:
That's exactly the kind of philosophy that I'm talking about. It's idiotic. YOU DON'T ACQUIRE GOOD PLAYERS BY ORDER. YOU ACQUIRE THEM WHEN THEY'RE AVAILABLE. We're not talkjng about 37 year-old players here!

Trading Sergachev for Drouin (he was 22!) wouldn't have been a problem if Drouin didn't suck so hard and Bergevin had decimated his roster's defence. Would you actually still go to bat and say that the Habs shouldn't have acquired a winner of the Conn Smythe trophy when he was available so they could lose harder? :laugh:

The Canadiens almost got 100 points the following year after having traded their star forward and captain!
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Louder!
 
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If you're a good team and you can fit his salary in for the next 2 years, might be worth it.
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These two don't work with each others this off-seasons.

Of all the teams with more than $5m in cap space, only Dallas made the playoffs and they need a RD before a center.
 
Takeru said:
A few things that make me iffy about getting PLD.

-Nice that he wants to come here but that's approaching it in reverse. We should be targeting players that make sense for what we're trying to build, not trade just because a player practically begged us to do so.

-Salary demands. I assume he'll want to get similar money to Suzuki, which imo is quite a lot for a roughly 60pts guy. Maybe there's untapped potential but nothing indicates it to me. We're trying to dig us out of cap hell, not get straight back in it. Also have to factor in the opportunity cost of not being able to acquire free assets from cap strapped teams if we sign PLD to big money.

-Assets cost. No real idea what the actual cost will be but Jets have no obligation to let him go for cheap. Even as a two-year rental, he can still command a significant return. Those lost assets (1st/2nds/D prospects) thrown around are assets we won't have to fix the D-core, whether through draft or trade. Do I need to remind you guys how much work we have yet to do on our D sooner or later?

So all in all, given that HuGo would've targetted that profile either way, that he somehow signs at a hometown discount and that we actually get the Jets to fold, it might turn out well. Otherwise, I think the downsides might outweight the pros.
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Totally agree. He'd be expensive to acquire and expensive to sign and the Habs won't be competitive anytime soon.
 
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