HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #79

[Natey]

Personally, I'd venture to say that someone who hasn't hesitated to tell two teams to go f*** themselves to try and come here would be able to handle the pressure here.

Would he? Or would it upset him and he'd tell us to go f*** ourselves?

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Would he? Or would it upset him and he'd tell us to go f*** ourselves?

I'd be willing to take that risk. The upside is too good and important. You can have that fear for any player but why in the world would you not take that chance on a guy who seems to be all-in on your franchise? It seems to be the reason he's requesting trades/refusing long-term deals in the first place.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Well they should nitpick for sure, but it shouldn't be things like "we're rebuilding!" it should be discussions about whether management thinks PLD could last in this market with the media pressure, etc.


Holy shit I wish people would delete Weekes off Twitter.

He posts these huge *BREAKING NEWS* stories with terrible video clips 30 minutes after the ACTUAL TEAM HAS ANNOUNCED THE MOVE. It's insane.

He's the absolute worst.

I love Weekes. He's fun and I love his videos.

 

[Richiebottles]

Ok this is good news.

Makes me think they want to trade him this summer vs keeping him around.

 

[Milhouse40]

Ok this is good news.

Makes me think they want to trade him this summer vs keeping him around.

Dubois has now the power to also force a trade by simply not signing anything

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Ok this is good news.

Makes me think they want to trade him this summer vs keeping him around.

As they should. I want Dubois but if you're anyone but Montreal, why would you want to deal with the guy? He's a bold asshole.

 

[Wateredgarden]

Pld will be a Habs one day, it's the second time he asks to be traded to Montreal.

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[Habbietat]

If price comes out and hits LTIR right away while signalling that he is retiring, we could ship that contract out pretty quickly me thinks and get a similar deal to Weber, relieve another teams cap space of FA deadweight and maybe get a draftpick. Either way 10 mil cap space will allow KH an abundance of options

 

[Natey]

I love Weekes. He's fun and I love his videos.

To each their own. I hate the breaking news videos 3 hours later.

 

[Adam Michaels]

To each their own. I hate the breaking news videos 3 hours later.

He's actually been the first to break a lot of things. Before any other insider and before the teams announce them.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Pld will be a Habs one day, it's the second time he asks to be traded to Montreal.

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[Natey]

He's actually been the first to break a lot of things. Before any other insider and before the teams announce them.

Haven't seen it. And I'd almost bet he got it form someone like IB or something first lol

 

[Adam Michaels]

Haven't seen it. And I'd almost bet he got it form someone like IB or something first lol

TDL was Weekes' coming out party. He had the scoops before the others.

 

[Takeru]

A few things that make me iffy about getting PLD.

-Nice that he wants to come here but that's approaching it in reverse. We should be targeting players that make sense for what we're trying to build, not trade just because a player practically begged us to do so.

-Salary demands. I assume he'll want to get similar money to Suzuki, which imo is quite a lot for a roughly 60pts guy. Maybe there's untapped potential but nothing indicates it to me. We're trying to dig us out of cap hell, not get straight back in it. Also have to factor in the opportunity cost of not being able to acquire free assets from cap strapped teams if we sign PLD to big money.

-Assets cost. No real idea what the actual cost will be but Jets have no obligation to let him go for cheap. Even as a two-year rental, he can still command a significant return. Those lost assets (1st/2nds/D prospects) thrown around are assets we won't have to fix the D-core, whether through draft or trade. Do I need to remind you guys how much work we have yet to do on our D sooner or later?

So all in all, given that HuGo would've targetted that profile either way, that he somehow signs at a hometown discount and that we actually get the Jets to fold, it might turn out well. Otherwise, I think the downsides might outweight the pros.

 

[417]

That's exactly the kind of philosophy that I'm talking about. It's idiotic. YOU DON'T ACQUIRE GOOD PLAYERS BY ORDER. YOU ACQUIRE THEM WHEN THEY'RE AVAILABLE. We're not talkjng about 37 year-old players here!

Trading Sergachev for Drouin (he was 22!) wouldn't have been a problem if Drouin didn't suck so hard and Bergevin had decimated his roster's defence. Would you actually still go to bat and say that the Habs shouldn't have acquired a winner of the Conn Smythe trophy when he was available so they could lose harder?

The Canadiens almost got 100 points the following year after having traded their star forward and captain!

Louder!

 

[le_sean]

He's actually been the first to break a lot of things. Before any other insider and before the teams announce them.

Yeah Weekes has been great. And his videos are hilarious.

 

[417]

As they should. I want Dubois but if you're anyone but Montreal, why would you want to deal with the guy? He's a bold asshole.

If you're a good team and you can fit his salary in for the next 2 years, might be worth it.

 

[morhilane]

If you're a good team and you can fit his salary in for the next 2 years, might be worth it.

These two don't work with each others this off-seasons.

Of all the teams with more than $5m in cap space, only Dallas made the playoffs and they need a RD before a center.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

A few things that make me iffy about getting PLD.

-Nice that he wants to come here but that's approaching it in reverse. We should be targeting players that make sense for what we're trying to build, not trade just because a player practically begged us to do so.

-Salary demands. I assume he'll want to get similar money to Suzuki, which imo is quite a lot for a roughly 60pts guy. Maybe there's untapped potential but nothing indicates it to me. We're trying to dig us out of cap hell, not get straight back in it. Also have to factor in the opportunity cost of not being able to acquire free assets from cap strapped teams if we sign PLD to big money.

-Assets cost. No real idea what the actual cost will be but Jets have no obligation to let him go for cheap. Even as a two-year rental, he can still command a significant return. Those lost assets (1st/2nds/D prospects) thrown around are assets we won't have to fix the D-core, whether through draft or trade. Do I need to remind you guys how much work we have yet to do on our D sooner or later?

So all in all, given that HuGo would've targetted that profile either way, that he somehow signs at a hometown discount and that we actually get the Jets to fold, it might turn out well. Otherwise, I think the downsides might outweight the pros.

Totally agree. He'd be expensive to acquire and expensive to sign and the Habs won't be competitive anytime soon.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Totally agree. He'd be expensive to acquire and expensive to sign and the Habs won't be competitive anytime soon.

Dubois helps make you competitive. That's the point.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

We can't exactly afford PLD. He should wait til next summer when we'll have money.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

If you're a good team and you can fit his salary in for the next 2 years, might be worth it.

But I think the Jets will request a return that justifies him as a long-term acquisition.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

Dubois helps make you competitive. That's the point.

No he won't. That's the point.

 

[nateylove100]

when are we getting dubois ? im tired of waiting .

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

when are we getting dubois ? im tired of waiting .

Never