Value of: Trade Leon??

[Sweetpotato]

1. Fire tippet and give Gulutzan the rest of the year and say run with it. Their only hope is going on a new coach high.

2. Blow the future on making the team a contender, go all in, no stone unturned.

3. If you move Connor or Leon, you have to move both because neither will stay if the other is moved, not a chance. 2023 draft is your cut off.

 

[TFHockey]

Only an idiot would trade Leon Draisaitl.

 

[Alienblood]

Sounds outrageous I know but could the Oilers get a better deal for him than the Sabres got for Eichel to help fill some chronic holes in the lineup that are keeping this team from becoming a serious cup contender? What do you guys think?

They should.

 

[Alienblood]

I'd introduce him and McDavid to their end of the ice first to see if that helps the Team out.

Brilliant

 

[bernmeister]

Sounds outrageous I know but could the Oilers get a better deal for him than the Sabres got for Eichel to help fill some chronic holes in the lineup that are keeping this team from becoming a serious cup contender? What do you guys think?

not happening
but Drai is one guy I would incl Shesty in a package
and gamble on Benny Allaire developing a high end replacement

Drai + Broberg + 1st
for
Shesty + Lindgren + Krav

something like that

but again, not happening

 

[ACC1224]

Brilliant

Thanks but goes without saying.....handsome too.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Or they could add depth around him and Mcdavid which they refuse to do

The sad part is that they have added depth. Just not significantly enough. They still need a top six winger, a shut down defenseman, a starting goalie, and at least 3 of their bottom six forward positions upgraded, including the crucial 3C position.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

The sad part is that they have added depth. Just not significantly enough. They still need a top six winger, a shut down defenseman, a starting goalie, and at least 3 of their bottom six forward positions upgraded, including the crucial 3C position.

They need their Marner or Nylander they need another star.

You can't have Mcdavid with random guy A and Random guy B on his wings and expect to win.

You also can't have Smith and Koskinen as your goalie tandem.

 

[Alienblood]

Thanks but goes without saying.....handsome too.

Maybe the Oilers need to fire Tippett and hire Torts

Edit: I quoted your wrong post but you get my drift

 

[ACC1224]

Maybe the Oilers need to fire Tippett and hire Torts

Edit: I quoted your wrong post but you get my drift

Torts or Babcock would be so much fun to see there.
They'll need to hire Moses for the Exodus that's sure to follow.

 

[Vinman88]

Send him to FLA. We will have ALL top pics from 2014!

 

[Stewie Griffin]

Send him to FLA. We will have ALL top pics from 2014!

Serious question, would it be harder to acquire Draisaitl or Ekblad, Bennett, and Reinhart?

 

[tkb81]

No way a NHL GM trades away a top 2/3/4/5 player in the league in his prime. Too much risk. If the return doesn’t work out , you set the franchise back even further. It would be almost impossible to get full value in trade . If it didn’t work out , the GM would be fired and probably never get another NHL gig and go down in history as the jackass that traded Draisaitl for magic beans.
There is a possibility that a trade could make the Oilers better but no GM is going to stick their neck out and actually trade him.

Only remotely close trade I can think of for a comparison is Thornton . That failed miserably.
Lindross trade is different circumstances but could somewhat be used as a comparison?
I haven’t looked at the initial Lindross trade close enough to know who really “won” the trade.

how about the other oiler gretzky ? pretty sure a NHL GM traded him .. dunno could be wrong

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Or they could add depth around him and Mcdavid which they refuse to do

With what cap space and assets? That's the issue when you're paying two guys a combined 21 million dollars. They are the two best players in the world (side note: Isn't that amazing to say for a player from Germany?) but it's tough to build a team when you've got that much locked up in two guys and not a lot in the way of young cheap high value assets to fill out the rest of your team.

 

[EquivalentStay]

how about the other oiler gretzky ? pretty sure a NHL GM traded him .. dunno could be wrong

Might wanna look into what happened to the career of the guy who traded him.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

With what cap space and assets? That's the issue when you're paying two guys a combined 21 million dollars. They are the two best players in the world (side note: Isn't that amazing to say for a player from Germany?) but it's tough to build a team when you've got that much locked up in two guys.

It can be done

Toronto is paying 4 guys almost 40 million and they are just a couple points out of 1st overall with multiple games in hand on almost everybody they are chasing.

I know you are going to say "but playoffs." but the Oilers are in a spot now where that's not a sure thing.

I'm not saying you need to pay 40 million to 4 guys but I do think they need 1 more star or a close to a star caliber player

A guy with the talent level of JT Miller or Evander Kane to play with Mcdavid.

If you could land 1 more star to play with Mcdavid I think a lot of the lack of depth talk goes away.

Let's say Vancouver goes back into the tank and JT Miller or Brock Bosser became available and the Oilers paid the price to get him.

Then you got Miller/Bosser-Mcdavid Hyman

RNH-Draisatl-Pool Party

That's a difference maker and all it takes is 1 more guy but that guy has to be a star player or close to it, like I said eariler in the thread you can't have random guy A and random guy B on Mcdavid wings and expect to succeed.

You also can't have Smith and Koskinen as your goalie tandem

 

[KrisLetAngry]

It's tough to trade Drai as the return won't be as good.

Maybe some cap magic let's say Drai with maybe Koskinen + a cap dump like Barrie for warm body?

Top 3 - a guy that anchors his own 2nd pair.
D top 6 F
Young future top 6 F that is projected to be top 6 like next year
Starting goaltender that is actually a starting goaltender and will be for a few years

Is this realistic to get from a team? Does Edmonton add. Does any team want to give that much up for the super star?

Seems like too much to give for me.

 

[tapi]

They should do it for the right return.

CAR gets: Drai
EDM: Aho, Pesce, 2nd

Car gets a notable scoring boost, much to the likings of the owner, and a slight upgrade at center over Aho. Edmonton gets more width, which they direly need. Pesce should help greatly with their chances at success and Aho is a good 1B center for McDavid.

 

[topshelf15]

Like Macd ,he is hard to trade...Conversely he is just as hard to trade for....

 

[bucks_oil]

Or they could add depth around him and Mcdavid which they refuse to do

Edited for you:

Or they could add depth around him and Mcdavid which Holland has had little cap space to do, and may have spent it on the wrong priorities.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

It can be done

Toronto is paying 4 guys almost 40 million and they are just a couple points out of 1st overall with multiple games in hand on almost everybody they are chasing.

I know you are going to say "but playoffs." but the Oilers are in a spot now where that's not a sure thing.

I'm not saying you need to pay 40 million to 4 guys but I do think they need 1 more star or a close to a star caliber player

A guy with the talent level of JT Miller or Evander Kane to play with Mcdavid.

If you could land 1 more star to play with Mcdavid I think a lot of the lack of depth talk goes away.

Let's say Vancouver goes back into the tank and JT Miller or Brock Bosser became available and the Oilers paid the price to get him.

Then you got Miller/Bosser-Mcdavid Hyman

RNH-Draisatl-Pool Party

That's a difference maker and all it takes is 1 more guy but that guy has to be a star player or close to it, like I said eariler in the thread you can't have random guy A and random guy B on Mcdavid wings and expect to succeed.

You also can't have Smith and Koskinen as your goalie tandem

No offense, the Leafs are a good team, but as currently constructed haven't won a first round playoff series yet.

 

[topshelf15]

They should do it for the right return.

CAR gets: Drai
EDM: Aho, Pesce, 2nd

Car gets a notable scoring boost, much to the likings of the owner, and a slight upgrade at center over Aho. Edmonton gets more width, which they direly need. Pesce should help greatly with their chances at success and Aho is a good 1B center for McDavid.

This is the problem,Drai is better than Aho ...But is he a very good top 4 defender along with a pick better???I not so sure

 

[TFHockey]

not happening
but Drai is one guy I would incl Shesty in a package
and gamble on Benny Allaire developing a high end replacement

Drai + Broberg + 1st
for
Shesty + Lindgren + Krav

something like that

but again, not happening

Are you kidding? Bern... Broberg and a 1st don't go with Draisaitl in any trade. Oilers don't add in such a deal. Grossly favors the rags.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

No offense, the Leafs are a good team, but as currently constructed haven't won a first round playoff series yet.

You missed the point you asked how you add depth when Mcdavid and Dri make so much money well the Leafs are doing it and they are in a much better position than the Oilers because Matthews has other stars around him.

Mcdavid does not have a Nylander or Marner on his wing and he needs that, he needs that caliber of player on his wing.

But fair enough let's use Tampa.

Vasi 9.5
Kucherov 9.5
Stamkos8.5
Hedman 7.8

That's about 35.3 million a little less than Toronto's big 4 but not by much

They make it work.

So this idea that Edmonton can't add depth because Mcdavid and Dri make so much money is odd to me because it's simply not true.

especially since Dri is on a bargain deal at 8.5

 

[FlyguyOX]

Giroux (50% retained)
Couturier

for
Drai
yamamoto