Trade Ideas

[Detroit Knights]

I wouldn’t be shocked to see Yzerman ship out Raymond. He’s a terrible defensive liability, one of team leaders at - , and is streaky.

oh damn. Raymond catching strays out here.

If raymond is being traded, it better be for a package to get pettersson.

 

[schuelma24]

Wait what?

 

[ricky0034]

I wouldn’t be shocked to see Yzerman ship out Raymond. He’s a terrible defensive liability, one of team leaders at - , and is streaky.

I hear the charges against Lucic got dropped maybe the Wings can hit up Boston about a 1-1 swap

 

[SantosHalper]

Speak for yourself, ASP is 4 years away and Edvinsson isn't enough to make a difference. At some point you have to start making actual hockey trades.

With players like Petry, Holl, Maatta, Ghost on the ice for ~40 minutes a game, this team isn't going to really compete.

Im not saying that Wings shouldn't do trades, im all for it and Andersson is more suitable target than Hanifin.

But you don't trade your best prospects, you trade the surplus prospects. By trading Kasper, you just create a new hole to fix and how long we have been waiting for quality centers? Since Datsyuk went back home? That was nearly a 10 years ago. We need Kasper's ELC and bridge deal and the player himself to make Red Wings competetive. This team will not definitely going to compete if we trade our best prospects away.

Right now the surplus prospects are Berggren and Johansson. If Berggren is traded, he can be replaced by UFA winger with a short term deal or Kasper, Danielson and Mazur could play 27 games each in that spot and spent rest of the season GR. If Wings reach playoffs, best kid gets the spot.

Johansson is in log jam, Wings would have to trade away someone anyway to make room for him since he can't go back in GR. Using Johansson and a veteran D as a part of a trade package would help the Wings to clear log jam and improve team at the same time. And Wings wont lose a prospect for free.

1st+Berggren+Johansson+Määttä is the package to use. Calgary move Määttä later and maybe get a 2nd pick in return.

 

[Detroit Knights]

I hear the charges against Lucic got dropped maybe the Wings can hit up Boston about a 1-1 swap

They got dropped because the wife decided not to testify....

Idk how he actually plays at least for the rest of this year. The wife not testifying could be a ray rice situation lol

 

[Snuggs]

Im not saying that Wings shouldn't do trades, im all for it and Andersson is more suitable target than Hanifin.

But you don't trade your best prospects, you trade the surplus prospects. By trading Kasper, you just create a new hole to fix and how long we have been waiting for quality centers? Since Datsyuk went back home? That was nearly a 10 years ago. We need Kasper's ELC and bridge deal and the player himself to make Red Wings competetive. This team will not definitely going to compete if we trade our best prospects away.

Right now the surplus prospects are Berggren and Johansson. If Berggren is traded, he can be replaced by UFA winger with a short term deal or Kasper, Danielson and Mazur could play 27 games each in that spot and spent rest of the season GR. If Wings reach playoffs, best kid gets the spot.

Johansson is in log jam, Wings would have to trade away someone anyway to make room for him since he can't go back in GR. Using Johansson and a veteran D as a part of a trade package would help the Wings to clear log jam and improve team at the same time. And Wings wont lose a prospect for free.

1st+Berggren+Johansson+Määttä is the package to use. Calgary move Määttä later and maybe get a 2nd pick in return.

It's true...


He's already been inducted into the HOF on this forum. He's better than Larkin even, idk why he's in the AHL.

*Edit, to be serious for a moment, the only center he might be better than "currently" is Joe Veleno, which I don't consider replacing a massive hole. I think everyone or most HOPE he's JT Compher or better. The underlined stuff is most definitely true. Though I think you can also move Kasper for the right guy or even Hanifin if it's the difference in getting him long-term or not. Defensemen are harder to get. Legitimately, Hanifin would be the best Dman Red Wings had since Kronwall(not counting Seider of course.)

 

[Snuggs]

oh damn. Raymond catching strays out here.

If raymond is being traded, it better be for a package to get pettersson.

Yeah, I was kind of a hater last year, but he got much tougher this year imo. If you're trading him, it should be for someone extremely good.

Comment threw me off for sure.

 

[stillwater]

Every time I read this thread, I feel like I can understand the effects of post-concussion syndrome.

 

[DavidpauseReinbacher]

Yzerman ain't trading that first imo

 

[Gniwder]

Every time I read this thread, I feel like I can understand the effects of post-concussion syndrome.

Every time I read this thread, I understand how much people masturbate, lol.


Edit: Taylor Swift for Zadina and a 2nd.

 

[SantosHalper]

*Edit, to be serious for a moment, the only center he might be better than "currently" is Joe Veleno, which I don't consider replacing a massive hole. I think everyone or most HOPE he's JT Compher or better. The underlined stuff is most definitely true. Though I think you can also move Kasper for the right guy or even Hanifin if it's the difference in getting him long-term or not. Defensemen are harder to get. Legitimately, Hanifin would be the best Dman Red Wings had since Kronwall(not counting Seider of course.)

Obviously im talking 5 years from now or do you think that 35-year old Copp and 34-year old Compher are still the answer.

Kasper can be moved but that right guy is a center, otherwise it doesn't make any sense for the Wings. To weaken another position in a expense of another.

 

[Snuggs]

Obviously im talking 5 years from now or do you think that 35-year old Copp and 34-year old Compher are still the answer.

Kasper can be moved but that right guy is a center, otherwise it doesn't make any sense for the Wings. To weaken another position in a expense of another.

I actually wasn't sure, which is why I was kind of an arse about it. lol.

 

[better Red than Dead]

No way Yzerman adds Hanifan without signing him
Long term. Yzerman will move assets for players that fall into the window of their current core, which Hanifan does, but he’s made it known he’s not selling assets to just make the playoffs, he wants to build a lasting contender

 

[better Red than Dead]

I would love to have Hanifin with an extension (provided that it doesn't involve moving Ed) but I am not expecting it to come to fruition. We won't be the only team interested in his services.

If we make a move, I think it is more likely to be a bona fide hockey trade for someone we don't know is actually available.

We won’t be, but we are one of the few teams with the assets to make it happen. As well as his being oken to sign here long term.

 

[Snuggs]

NHL Mock Trades: Red Wings get coveted defenceman, Devils swing big for goalie

This is trade deadline season for NHL general managers but more importantly, though, it’s fake trade season for the rest of us. Here are three potential moves that could benefit all parties involved.

www.sportsnet.ca

To Detroit

Defenceman Noah Hanifin*
Goalie Kaapo Kahkonen
*Hanifin inks an eight-year extension with Detroit, San Jose retains 50 per cent of the money remaining on his expiring contract.

To Calgary

Forward Jonatan Berggren
Forward Anthony Duclair
Detroit’s 2025 top-10 protected first pick

To San Jose

Goalie Ville Husso
Detroit’s 2024 top-10 protected first pick
Vancouver’s 2026 third, previously acquired by Calgary

Just a make believer but still interesturante`

Two 1st round picks and Berggren for extended Hanifin and an upgrade in backup goalie.

 

[Roomba With a Bauer]

I don't think Calgary accepts the first in 2025 since Detroit could be expected to continue improving next year.

Also don't see Yzerman trading for anyone unless he knows he can resign them beforehand. He's not Dorion.

 

[letsgowings9999]

2 1sts and berggren and replacing husso for a pending ufa goalie and hanifin

Non mercie

 

[saska sault]

2 1sts and berggren and replacing husso for a pending ufa goalie and hanifin

Non mercie

Absolutely not. I don't think there is any chance Yzerman is giving up more than a Debrincat type deal, possibly with a better prospect like Berggren.

2025 1st + 2024 mid round
Berggren
Someone off or roster because it's already crowded.. Matta? Not a rental so Calgary can keep or flip.

 

[norrisnick]

There is no need to do the SJ half of that trade. We don't need retention on Hanifin so there is no need to get SJ involved at all.

 

[Oddbob]

NHL Mock Trades: Red Wings get coveted defenceman, Devils swing big for goalie

This is trade deadline season for NHL general managers but more importantly, though, it’s fake trade season for the rest of us. Here are three potential moves that could benefit all parties involved.

www.sportsnet.ca

Just a make believer but still interesturante`

Two 1st round picks and Berggren for extended Hanifin and an upgrade in backup goalie.

Why would SJ get a 1st round pick? Detroit surely isn't giving that to get rid of Husso. They also wouldn't get a 1st for retaining anything on Hanifin's post deadline deal.

Also 2 first round picks for Noah Hanifin? Kahkonen is also worse than Husso.

 

[Snuggs]

Why would SJ get a 1st round pick? Detroit surely isn't giving that to get rid of Husso. They also wouldn't get a 1st for retaining anything on Hanifin's post deadline deal.

Also 2 first round picks for Noah Hanifin? Kahkonen is also worse than Husso.

What a downer dude...

Nah, Kahkonen better than Husso, especially this year. Idk why you'd think he's worst, Husso's terrible so far along with injured. They're pretty comparable even over their careers with Kahkonen getting the edge with save %. But... who needs either... Reimer with the shut out baby!


Idk, not my trade idk. I guess cause they took on a bad contract and moved Duclair? Idk how the writer finagled them in though.

Two first rounders for an extended Hanifin... Doesn't sound "Terrible" but sounds like full price. Wings would theoretically be rocking Hanifin, Seider, Edvinsson on the defense for a long time.

 

[letsgowings9999]

Agree with ward we should be adding picks and I dont think were making the playoffs when it's all said and done

Been seeing eiseman drop to like 8th, We should have stayed in the bottom 10 picks this year and and make the push next season. We'll see how the season ends but I wouldnt be making good trades this deadline

 

[JediOrderPizza]

Just one more top 10 pick, I swear it'll be the last one!

 

[SantosHalper]

Agree with ward we should be adding picks and I dont think were making the playoffs when it's all said and done

Been seeing eiseman drop to like 8th, We should have stayed in the bottom 10 picks this year and and make the push next season. We'll see how the season ends but I wouldnt be making good trades this deadline

Cat and Kane basically felled to our lap, i don't think that it would have been possible for the Wings to stay in bottom-10. Ray and Seider also has improved, Ras has found his mojo and Lyon King looked like a NHL starter. Wings are too good team to be in bottom-10, it's better to fight for a playoff spot. If Wings make it, that experience will be more valuable than extra 3rd and 4th round picks.

Why is Eiserman falling? Looked like a sure 2nd overall one point. Too one sided or what? Zadina 2.0, makes me think that maybe Yzerman wouldn't be that interested.

 

[letsgowings9999]

Cat and Kane basically felled to our lap, i don't think that it would have been possible for the Wings to stay in bottom-10. Ray and Seider also has improved, Ras has found his mojo and Lyon King looked like a NHL starter. Wings too good team to be in bottom-10, it's better to fight for a playoff spot. If Wings make it, that experience will be more valuable than extra 3rd and 4th round picks.

Why is Eiserman falling? Looked like a sure 2nd overall one point. Too one sided or what? Zadina 2.0, makes me think that maybe Yzerman wouldn't be that interested.

That's true ... compher wasn't needed and I think he'll be another copp and well regret it when hes bottom 6 making that money and kids are pushing

I'm not to worried about this experience stuff cause most of these guys wont eve be here longterm. Blue line, seider and walman if hes extended who else will be here ?

I can see veleno not being a longterm member. So ... Larkin,Rasmussen and debrincat (not sure if he made the playoffs in Chicago) will get this valuable experience ?? Maybe sprong if hes extended but who knows yet

This team needs to start inserting the kids asap ,that's when we'll be taking the next step

I dont know possibly cause hes not a 2 way guy but neither is caufield and hes good for 35-40 and eiseman is a bigger player. Just think were missing that elite skilled forward and could have used one more high end pick

Anyways I cant wait to start getting rid of bodies to see the future in the lineup