Speculation: Trade Ideas and Free Agency XI
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Sarge58
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It's been mentioned we have roughly a 3 year window to win the cup, I assume it's due to the ages of Suter and Parise + other vets. This a list of what would be needed to be favorites to win the cup for the next 3 years.
1. We'd need to add an elite center
2. Depending on what happens with Duby, we may have to find a #1 goalie or competent backup or both.
3. We'd need to add a tough experienced Dman at one of the 4,5,6 spots. Also add bit more depth.
4. Obviously it will cost us to upgrade at C and to add some quality depth. It seems some don't have a problem trading Tuch and other young assets along with one or two of our first rounders.
If we acquire all or most of the above we could be considered elite and one of the top Cup favorites.
But first you have to make the PO's, It may look like we'd be a lock considering how good we look on paper, but there are other teams certain to be good Chi, Kings, Ana, Blues, and then we have to compete with teams who look to be emerging as really scary teams Jets, Preds. Then if we can avoid serious injuries and get a bit of luck we may make the finals.
But if we miss, and with what we have paid, we could possibly be looking at a 10 year rebuild and some real boring hockey.
I just want to build a long lasting always cup competitive team like ANA has. Which you can't build by giving up assets and picks.
1. We'd need to add an elite center
2. Depending on what happens with Duby, we may have to find a #1 goalie or competent backup or both.
3. We'd need to add a tough experienced Dman at one of the 4,5,6 spots. Also add bit more depth.
4. Obviously it will cost us to upgrade at C and to add some quality depth. It seems some don't have a problem trading Tuch and other young assets along with one or two of our first rounders.
If we acquire all or most of the above we could be considered elite and one of the top Cup favorites.
But first you have to make the PO's, It may look like we'd be a lock considering how good we look on paper, but there are other teams certain to be good Chi, Kings, Ana, Blues, and then we have to compete with teams who look to be emerging as really scary teams Jets, Preds. Then if we can avoid serious injuries and get a bit of luck we may make the finals.
But if we miss, and with what we have paid, we could possibly be looking at a 10 year rebuild and some real boring hockey.
I just want to build a long lasting always cup competitive team like ANA has. Which you can't build by giving up assets and picks.
yeah I kind of am expecting that response just because his value is so low but if he could be had for basically free then I wouldn't be upset if we for whatever reason did get him but I think if we do go after someone I'd look everywhere else.
Yeah an elite C I could see us going after if we did would be like Eric Staal and maybe somehow get Jordan too but that would be very expensive and not sure I'd want to see the price, I mean even just for Eric it'd be crazy expensive.
Sarge58
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Exactly and that was the point I tried to make, is that we shouldn't be sacrificing everything for a short term chance at the Cup, but instead we should think of building a strong, skilled, exciting team that's able to be in the mix on a yearly basis.
Thought he signed as UFA since he was undrafted? And we burned one year of his contract last year.
I think this is right. College free agent signings don't get the "restricted" tag since they don't get the "entry level deals" drafted players get. I could be wrong but he would be a UFA at contract end.
Granlund 64
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Russo was talking about Andrej Sekara as a potential d-man rental. Left shot D that could play a top-4 role For us if a guy were to get hurt.
What would it take to get him do you think? To expensive?
What would it take to get him do you think? To expensive?
Dr Jan Itor
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Granlund 64
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Figured as much. Not surprising, but I wasn't extremely familiar with him. Read around a little bit and a 1st (and likely more) is what people are reporting would be the asking price.
Next!
Everywhere I look says RFA but this was from Russo last year:
"Christian Folin, the 6-foot-3, mobile, hard-shooting, two-way, right-shot defenseman from Gothenburg, Sweden, agreed to terms on a two-year, $1.85 million entry-level contract that begins immediately. Folin, 23, a sophomore at the University of Massachusetts-Lowell, will join the Wild on Tuesday night in Chicago, will practice Wednesday and can play in any of the final six regular-season games."
How about to Carolina:
Charlie Coyle
Alex Tuch
Gustav Olofsson
Eric Haula
1st in 2015
3rd in 2016
for
Eric Staal
Jordan Staal
Andrej Sekara
If we're going all in, we should go all in
Charlie Coyle
Alex Tuch
Gustav Olofsson
Eric Haula
1st in 2015
3rd in 2016
for
Eric Staal
Jordan Staal
Andrej Sekara
If we're going all in, we should go all in
Al Lagoon
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I think the 3 year window applies mostly to the older guys, especially Koivu and Vanek - if the younger guys develop, then there is no window per se.
You got it right in the last sentence there. No more sacrificing the future. Sustainable competitiveness should be the goal.
Al Lagoon
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Could the Wild even afford that with the cap, besides it being an awful idea?
Thats a terrible trade and not even close to working as we'd need 15M+ in cap space
Dr Jan Itor
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Am I crazy or does another goalie trade make sense to anybody else? If we get a good 2nd or 3rd stringer somewhere, any I would suggest are finns but that would just be lost cred points.. So I'm just gonna leave the trade object hanging up in the air.
But some of these are very young. Somebody we could swap in some kind of 1-on-1 trade for Kuemper + some middling prospect. Throw in Zack Phillips for good measure if possible.
Or retain chunk of Bäcks' salary and take some veteran presence, or young if you can get deal.
If somebody thinks we shouldn't get a decent to good backup with potential, it is in my opinion naive to think that the fairy tale lasts. If we do not rest him, how soon he ends up in a breakdown game? What if by then the high crashes faster than it started? Can we really put trust in the two we have now, or should we be looking at them as assets?
Or god forbid, should I even mention the injury bug the team seems to have?
Or is it just that Bäcks and Kemps ain't got any value? I can't see how you couldn't make a deal and sweeten it with different pieces.
But some of these are very young. Somebody we could swap in some kind of 1-on-1 trade for Kuemper + some middling prospect. Throw in Zack Phillips for good measure if possible.
Or retain chunk of Bäcks' salary and take some veteran presence, or young if you can get deal.
If somebody thinks we shouldn't get a decent to good backup with potential, it is in my opinion naive to think that the fairy tale lasts. If we do not rest him, how soon he ends up in a breakdown game? What if by then the high crashes faster than it started? Can we really put trust in the two we have now, or should we be looking at them as assets?
Or god forbid, should I even mention the injury bug the team seems to have?
Or is it just that Bäcks and Kemps ain't got any value? I can't see how you couldn't make a deal and sweeten it with different pieces.
Randy BoBandy
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Vanek, Koivu and Poms is a lot of money off the books in consecutive years as well.
nickschultzfan
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I wonder what Granlund+Dumba could fetch for a first line center. I am fine keeping Spurgeon and developing Folin.
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