Bringer of Jollity
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They are the anti-Lightning, and with Draisaitl and McDavid up in 2 and 3 years it seems they are hedging their bets one or both are unlikely to stick around.
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I mean... if i was a world class player that any team would likely move the cap possible to give me what i want and i saw the management of my current team basically shuffling deck chairs... id consider moving
Bringer of Jollity
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I'm a little worried for Ekholm if he is dealt, to be honest. He's a total "warrior" but a very low-key one. Could you imagine him having to go to Edmonton with that media circus and costing whatever ridiculous package he goes for and then they continue to flame out? Dude doesn't deserve that type of scrutiny.
It's not that nobody can ever sustain a high level of play till 35-36. But the large majority of players see a significant dropoff. Ekholm has mostly avoided that so far but as a GM you have to kind of play the percentages.
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Flip side, he's with 2 of the best forwards in the game, he might win a Cup if they get their house in order, he will put pucks on their sticks that go in the net, and his career might also have a bit of a rejuvenation and land him another nice contract after this one... which riding peacefully into the sunset with us probably won't ever get him.
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Edmonton’s issue was an inability to build a solid team with all of those top draft picks over the span of a decade … so much firepower up front but no blue line or consistent goaltending. Sitting at $71mil committed for next season with 14 players is why they just traded a pending FA who they wanted to take a couple million below his QO number.
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Let's just say I think "playing the percentages" is exactly what we're doing if we're asking for 2 1sts. It's the right threshold. Set the bar high to play those percentages, don't budge, don't feel any pressure whatsoever if nobody wants to meet that threshold.
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dude is getting paid like 6.25M, I would gladly deal with all of that (including living in Edmonton) for 1/2 that.
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Ekholm for - 2023 1st, broberg, 2023 3rd and Yammamoto (for cap help next year) - make sense?
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Makes sense for us but can't see Oilers fans interested in that, they consider Broberg untouchable.
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That's even more than I am asking for. And I'm stingy on Ekholm. Definitely don't need the 2023 3rd. Yamamoto is up to how the Oilers see him, but if he's "zero value" in that trade and just a Cap dump, fine. 1st+Broberg is already at the top of what we can hope for, I wouldn't stretch past that. Settling for something a smidgin lower would be a better level to calibrate expectations to.
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Meh. I still take him. Canes need top 6 scoring either way. Teuvo is likely not re-signed after next year, or if he is it's in a diminished role. Aho, Svech, Necas, Jarvis is a good core for the top 6 and maybe Kotkaniemi works his way in there as well. I guess the only issue is that Duchene typically plays RW and we already have that in Necas and Jarvis.... and also TT. Ideally would want a LW.
Svech - Aho - Jarvis
Duchene - KK - Necas
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The 2 1sts is basically the team saying he is available but they are perfectly OK with keeping him so if you want him you gotta pay the price.
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Yea it was more shaking out as
broberg and 2023 1st = Ekholm
2023 3rd = taking yammamoto contract dump
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I will add for posterity that I see Broberg + 2nd > 2 1sts, fwiw. Broberg is that important a component to all this.
I don't care one bit if Yamamoto is seen as positive or negative value... if Trotz let that part of things get in the way of anything, I would be disappointed. I do like the "vision" I have of Trotz sitting across a table from an agent negotiating contracts, or on the end of a phone with a rival GM, though. That's quite a different picture in my head than the refined and polite picture I have of Poile.
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Well, if Yammamoto is included, (I value him negatively as a cap dump) I'd suspect we should get a 3rd to take on the contractI will add for posterity that I see Broberg + 2nd > 2 1sts, fwiw. Broberg is that important a component to all this.
I don't care one bit if Yamamoto is seen as positive or negative value... if Trotz let that part of things get in the way of anything, I would be disappointed. I do like the "vision" I have of Trotz sitting across a table from an agent negotiating contracts, or on the end of a phone with a rival GM, though. That's quite a different picture in my head than the refined and polite picture I have of Poile.
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Its their most nhl ready prospect and their best defense prospect. Itd be like if when we traded girard.
Then don’t trade them Ekholm. It’s not like the Predators HAVE to move Ekholm. If the trade isn’t one that blows them away, why do it?
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After the Jeannot trade and the blow up in the front office, if the team said, "we are taking the TDL off." I honestly can't complain. You can trade Ekholm in the summer and Jesus the picks.
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He's not "thrown in"... he's the main course.
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