Trade deadline

[Olderfan]

Looks like, with Forsberg, Johansen and Parssinen ailing, Preds have 10 forwards, so Forsberg and Parssinen must be ready.????

 

[herzausstein]

Looks like, with Forsberg, Johansen and Parssinen ailing, Preds have 10 forwards, so Forsberg and Parssinen must be ready.????

Either that or we gonna call someone up. Or trading nino made room for Puljujarvi .

 

[AintLifeGrand]

so were looking like

granlund-novak-duchene
Jeannot-glass-tomasino
Afanasyev-Sissons-Evangelista
Nurmi-Mccarron-Sherwood

??

Also wonder if we can get a 2nd for granny too??

 

[GeauxPreds1]

Ugh if that’s all you’re getting for nino I don’t want Poile to sell anymore. A 2nd a year away isn’t that great. Figures he wouldn’t trade someone outside his beloved core.

 

[BigFatCat999]

Well, the Jets had no 2023 2nd and probably Poile didn’t have a ton of offers to sift through, he probably just took what they had.

I agree. cap relief is the big thing. Open roster spot for kids, cap if teams are trading picks for space, AND Pred lose a 30+ contract

 

[glenngineer]

I mean, if you get a Bergeron in the 2nd round, a Marchand in the 3rd round, and a Pastrnak at #25, you have won the lottery. It's almost not even astute drafting at that point - it might be, but more likely you just got lucky.

Pretty much the same with Tampa for Point, Kucherov, and Vasilevskiy.

How nice it would be to win the lottery. I dream of that everytime Powerball goes insane. Still waiting...

I call BS. It's not luck. If that's the case, are you saying Poile was lucky when he drafted Weber and Josi in the second round, Saros in the 4th and where ever Rinne went, 5th or 7th, I can't recall. Poile has drafted some amazing D and goalies over the years. He just hasn't done it up front.

Great teams find gems in the later rounds because they spend the money on scouts because there is no limit there. That's how you find the gems, more people scouting, more players looked at, the better change you have at finding these guys.

He got lucky drafting Arvidsson, Rinne, Saros, some others too. Everybody gets lucky sometimes. We got Josi and Weber with a ton of luck. It's great when you get it. But of course there are a bunch of other things you need at the same time, though. We've had hits and misses. It's probably just a fluke we hit more on D than F.

If it's just a fluke, why has he never been able to draft an elite/HOF quality forward in almost 40 years as a GM? At some point, he would've gotten lucky with your logic.

 

[Armourboy]

I call BS. It's not luck. If that's the case, are you saying Poile was lucky when he drafted Weber and Josi in the second round, Saros in the 4th and where ever Rinne went, 5th or 7th, I can't recall. Poile has drafted some amazing D and goalies over the years. He just hasn't done it up front.

Great teams find gems in the later rounds because they spend the money on scouts because there is no limit there. That's how you find the gems, more people scouting, more players looked at, the better change you have at finding these guys.


If it's just a fluke, why has he never been able to draft an elite/HOF quality forward in almost 40 years as a GM? At some point, he would've gotten lucky with your logic.

Oh there is some luck involved, just not in every single case. First couple of rounds guys have been seen pretty regularly, I think where scouting really comes into play as being less about luck and more about skill is in the last couple of rounds. Finding guys like Rinne cause you happened to be watching someone else and he caught your eye, or a Hornquist because you liked something about his game.

I'd also add that I think a couple of reasons you haven't seen that forward is because Poile had always been a Goal out GM. That's where they put their resources because that's the kind of team they wanted to build. The other is I think because of that you didn't have guys that were that good at developing forward talent either. Finally he never has drafted very high to start with, which is where a ton of your elite talent will come from. The two years he did he got Legwand and Jones, both of which were pretty much the best left by the time we got to draft.

As good as a team like Tampa has been they have also had their failures. They basically had to get rid of Drouin and just were lucky enough to catch a sucker in Montreal and he was drafted before Jones that year.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

I call BS. It's not luck. If that's the case, are you saying Poile was lucky when he drafted Weber and Josi in the second round, Saros in the 4th and where ever Rinne went, 5th or 7th, I can't recall. Poile has drafted some amazing D and goalies over the years. He just hasn't done it up front.

Great teams find gems in the later rounds because they spend the money on scouts because there is no limit there. That's how you find the gems, more people scouting, more players looked at, the better change you have at finding these guys.


If it's just a fluke, why has he never been able to draft an elite/HOF quality forward in almost 40 years as a GM? At some point, he would've gotten lucky with your logic.

If they knew those guys were such gems, they would have picked them much higher. They didn’t know. They took a flyer and lucked out. Or look at it another way: if you’re just THAT good at scouting, why don’t you ALWAYS pick guys who are that good? They’re always out there. How come you can see them once in a while but most of the time you can’t? Simple: Because it’s mostly luck!

 

[herzausstein]

so were looking like

granlund-novak-duchene
Jeannot-glass-tomasino
Afanasyev-Sissons-Evangelista
Nurmi-Mccarron-Sherwood

??

Also wonder if we can get a 2nd for granny too??

With current injuries, no clue how things shake out.

With forsberg and Parssinen back, id like to see
Forsberg - novak - duchene
Granlund - glass - tomasino
Trenin - Parsinnen - Evangelista
Smith - sissons - jeannot

 

[herzausstein]

If nothing else, we got a better return for a player we just got for free in free agency than the rangers just did for their 2018 9th overall pick

 

[nullednumbed]

If nothing else, we got a better return for a player we just got for free in free agency than the rangers just did for their 2018 9th overall pick

I would have rather seen the pick for Nino be for this year's draft, but that's a nitpick. We shall see if Poile has any other moves left before/on the trade deadline.

 

[Roman Yoshi]

It's a 2024 pick so the point about this year doesnt apply.

And nobody is feasting on Poiles corpse.

The only other piece I see him possibly being able to move is McD and that's only if McD has asked him to

I mean the return isn't great. We gave up the same amount for Lauzon as we got for Nino and I'm pretty sure Lauzon has scored more own goals than he's prevented so...

I'm happy we are selling but I think we could've gotten a late first or a lottery protected one.

 

[Nhlpowerweek]

Looks like, with Forsberg, Johansen and Parssinen ailing, Preds have 10 forwards, so Forsberg and Parssinen must be ready.????

Yeah was just thinkin bout the same thang sire. Cant play shorthanded.

 

[LT]

Marek suggested Dallas is interested in Tanner Jeannot. Any thoughts on if this is true and if so, what a return might entail?

 

[PredsV82]

I mean the return isn't great. We gave up the same amount for Lauzon as we got for Nino and I'm pretty sure Lauzon has scored more own goals than he's prevented so...

I'm happy we are selling but I think we could've gotten a late first or a lottery protected one.

I think the lack of any salary retention is what made the price what it is. Teams can squeeze in 4 mil this year but committing to the full 4 mil next year would be tough to sell to a lot of teams

 

[Flgatorguy87]

I think the lack of any salary retention is what made the price what it is. Teams can squeeze in 4 mil this year but committing to the full 4 mil next year would be tough to sell to a lot of teams

It's stingy out there right now

 

[Armourboy]

Marek suggested Dallas is interested in Tanner Jeannot. Any thoughts on if this is true and if so, what a return might entail?

Lots of teams are interested but now that Poile has the cap space next season I doubt he moves him.

 

[LT]

Lots of teams are interested but now that Poile has the cap space next season I doubt he moves him.

Makes sense, I was surprised to hear that he might be available at all.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

Marek suggested Dallas is interested in Tanner Jeannot. Any thoughts on if this is true and if so, what a return might entail?

I'm sure many teams are interested in Jeannot, so probably.

 

[Armourboy]

Makes sense, I was surprised to hear that he might be available at all.

Poile made a statement that everyone was available but I think certain guys are much less available and would basically take a massive overpay to get.

 

[herzausstein]

Available doesnt mean, ill take anything for him. It just means, you can persuade me.

 

[Roman Yoshi]

I think the lack of any salary retention is what made the price what it is. Teams can squeeze in 4 mil this year but committing to the full 4 mil next year would be tough to sell to a lot of teams

For a proven 20G scorer it really isn't. 101st constantly reminds us how few there are.

Again, compared Lauzon to Nino and tell me which is more valuable.

It's good we are selling but surely there was a better deal to be had closer to the deadline

 

[Flgatorguy87]

 

[NoNecksCurse]

there should be no untouchables. Josi is 32 to start and even the smallest rebuild would put him 35+ until we are contending again. he would get an absolute insane return. I would see what him or Forsberg would return at this point.

 

[BigFatCat999]

What would SJ offer for Fabbro?