Trade Deadline Thread (March 3)

[Jacob582]

Genuinely curious. Do people think Adams is consulting his front office and (respected) analytics department about these decisions? History seems to suggest that he adheres to a consultative management style. Yet most of the criticism points to personal failings on Adam's part: he's a dimwitted mope or lacks the balls to make the big trade or both. Maybe he's simply listening to the best advice of his organization?

I would bet his Amateur Scouting director is telling him: Don't trade my picks!

 

[Chainshot]

Didn't he sign Taylor Hall and trade for Staal or was that Botts? (I can't remember). regardless of the outcome, I would consider that a big FA signing.

Eric Staal is on the trade list.

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

We are slowly lowering our expectations are we? First was Meier, then was Chychrun now is Sissons. Maybe Stillman is a good get after all

 

[Jacob582]

We are slowly lowering our expectations are we? First was Meier, then was Chychrun now is Sissons. Maybe Stillman is a good get after all

Can't block Ryan Johnson..

 

[Jim Bob]

This is very true, however.......

If Adams does nothing and the Sabres miss the playoffs, a lot of people are going to be pissed but,........

If Adams makes a good trade or two to make the team better without crippling the future and they miss the playoffs, I think most will feel a whole lot better about Adams and the situation because at least he did his job and tried.

If he does nothing and they make the playoffs anyway, awesome. How can anyone complain.

People are going to be pissed if the Sabres miss the playoffs regardless of the moves that Adams makes or doesn't make.

If Adams had traded for Chychrun and they miss, people are going to be pissed and wanting different moves to happen.

Fans want results and will complain if they do not get the results they want regardless of the moves that are made. If the results aren't there, the moves will be judged as not good enough.

Exhibit A: the Bills after how the season ended after Beane signed Von Miller as an all in type move.

Fixing holes sure as hell betters the odds of making the playoffs.

Making trades do not guarantee that the players added make things better.

Trades do not work out all the time.

And sometimes, the best trades are the ones that you do not make.

 

[Gras]

he wants fat markers and macaroni art

 

[old kummelweck]

Now THAT is a cheap owner

They are the Regis era Sabres.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Yeah but if you miss on a trade by making it or not making it you're paying for it for years to come.

Bullets stay in the chamber if they aren't fired.

And if you aren't even involved in the firefight yet, does it make sense to start firing your limited bullets at opponents who don't even consider you a threat (yet)? Not to me.

 

[Rasmus CacOlainen]

I want to see Buffalo in the playoffs as much as anyone else on here. I want the team to be improved as much as anyone else on here.

HOWEVER, you have to give Adams a bit of a break. The East is stacked as hell right now, spending any meaningful assets on rentals or mostly rental players would be wrong right now because even if we make it to the playoffs, you can all guys see it would almost surely be 1 round and out. Yes, Chychrun would have been great, because he is not a rental, and it sucks that he went to the Sens instead. I also think Adams could have beaten the Sens offer. But it is not a massive sin that we didn't manage to get one single player. No one else that has moved so far realistically was needed here (even including Meier, who we have no idea if he would have been interested to re-sign here long term), so I think we should hold a bit before passing on final judgement...at least until the trade deadline passes. Maybe KA manages to scoop someone on the cheap after most other teams that are buying already spent most of their assets and cap space, so someone available now would have less competition for a trade.

 

[WhereAreTheCookies]

We are slowly lowering our expectations are we? First was Meier, then was Chychrun now is Sissons. Maybe Stillman is a good get after all

To be fair, Sissons has been on my want list for a long time. I was bringing him or Cizikas up last offseason as guys I wanted to replace Eakin.

 

[Cirris]

So i know we're at "Do something Darcy!!!" levels with GMKA.

I understand not overpaying for rentals.

But with 3 2nds and 2 3rds in this draft. It would be nice to get at least some depth in a position of need. Maybe a slightly better D than Stillman.

We don't need all those picks. You can only have so many in the prospect pool and Sabres have tons right now at forward.

 

[HaNotsri]

So i know we're at "Do something Darcy!!!" levels with GMKA.

I understand not overpaying for rentals.

But with 3 2nds and 2 3rds in this draft. It would be nice to get at least some depth in a position of need. Maybe a slightly better D than Stillman.

We don't need all those picks. You can only have so many in the prospect pool and Sabres have tons right now at forward.

Which players have a personal connection to Adams? Relatives, buddies etc?

 

[Rasmus CacOlainen]

So i know we're at "Do something Darcy!!!" levels with GMKA.

I understand not overpaying for rentals.

But with 3 2nds and 2 3rds in this draft. It would be nice to get at least some depth in a position of need. Maybe a slightly better D than Stillman.

We don't need all those picks. You can only have so many in the prospect pool and Sabres have tons right now at forward.

We don't have any prospect depth at G and D. Those picks could be useful, definitely more useful than a depth rental in a stacked Division & Conference, when we are at best a bubble team.

 

[WhereAreTheCookies]

Which players have a personal connection to Adams? Relatives, buddies etc?

I hear Parayko once had lunch at Chefs when the Blues were in town. Adams has also had lunch at Chefs before.

 

[Rowley Birkin]

We don't have any prospect depth at G and D. Those picks could be useful, definitely more useful than a depth rental in a stacked Division & Conference, when we are at best a bubble team.

Don't kid yourself. Adams is going skilled, soft forward with all but one of those picks. The one exception will be reaching on a goalie nobody heard of or wants...

 

[Chainshot]

Which players have a personal connection to Adams? Relatives, buddies etc?

Dennis Gilbert, depth d-man with the Flames - his uncle Mike worked for the team for years. Mike is a pretty good dude from my experiences with him over the years. But I don't know why he's not with them any longer, was out of town when he and the team parted ways.

 

[WhereAreTheCookies]

This is interesting... Is he any good?

 

[RefsIdeas]

This is interesting... Is he any good?

Not at all

 

[DapperCam]

Crouse and Vejmelka for a 2024 1st round pick (top 5 protected), Topias Leinonen, Ben Bishop and some sort of B prospect they like.

Parayko for Joker and a 2023 2nd round pick

^ My ideas to address goalie, depth forward and #4 D without spending too much capital.

 

[joshjull]

The fanbase will feel a hell of a lot better if he makes this move. Crouse would be huge get

No, they’ll just move the goalposts to complain about something else.

 

[Jim Bob]

Crouse and Vejmelka for a 2024 1st round pick (top 5 protected), Topias Leinonen, Ben Bishop and some sort of B prospect they like.

Parayko for Joker and a 2023 2nd round pick

^ My ideas to address goalie, depth forward and #4 D without spending too much capital.

I bet that is more than Adams is willing to spend.

 

[stokes84]

This is interesting... Is he any good?

He was supposed to be what Tage is. Instead he’s a defenseman now.

 

[deVolt]

I bet that is more than Adams is willing to spend.

I vote for doing nothing in that case.

 

[sabremike]

This is interesting... Is he any good?

 

[Gabrielor]

No, they’ll just move the goalposts to complain about something else.

Crouse would be something they lack for sure. Price dependent, doesn't solve their big needs, but I dk about the goalposts moving. More like the focus would still be on D/G.