Trade Deadline Thread (March 3)

[TheMistyStranger]

I vote for doing nothing in that case.

I don't like max domi. I give them a 2nd and a 6th before thinking about those other names.

 

[Selanne00008]

Accoriding to Jet fans no, he is not any good.

Domi might be the type of grit this team needs right now. Can we resign him pls?

 

[joshjull]

Crouse would be something they lack for sure. Price dependent, doesn't solve their big needs, but I dk about the goalposts moving. More like the focus would still be on D/G.

I’m not speaking about Crouse specifically. I was referring to the idea a trade would somehow satisfy the fans. There will still be complaining and attacks in the GM even if he makes a trade. The focus will just change.

 

[Gabrielor]

There is another near-term RFA that I'd pay a whole lot for isn't a D...

I wonder how the Elias Pettersson saga ends in VAN.

 

[Djp]

For anyone who thinks Ottawa is going to blow past us and make the playoffs now, there's a rare opportunity available to septuple your cash. As of noon, Vegas says Buffalo (+260) has a 28% chance to make the playoffs and Ottawa (+700) has a 12.5% chance.

Ottawa actually needed top 4 Defense big time. right now they have some secondary prosopect who knows what they become. It doesnt take them over

Biron wondered on Sabres Live if GM Armstrong had similar offers and asked Chychrun where he wanted to go.

Adams wants players who want to be here. I wonder if this came into play.

Im sure many GMs do that with veteran players. I think that is why Toronto got Schenn from Vancouver for a 3rd while others might have offered a 2nd or a better 3rd

Conner Murphy still out there too

he can stay out there

If Adams gets Crouse for a decent price- I'll forgive him, though the need for a RD is pressing.

Im fine going after Crouse...i think it will be a more hockey trade than a pure pick trade

The opportunity arose and the Sabres weren't able to get it done. This clearly isn't a broadcast method of acquisition - didn't hear that they were interested in Ekholm or Hronek - they bid on Chychrun and couldn't get it done. They very much did not take their shot and they very much didn't get the player.

Im sure they were involved on other deals and came in at 2nd place.

Buffalo wasnt offereing 23 1st for chychrun or Hronak

they might have offered a 2nd for neideriter but he opted for minnesota because they seem like they will be in the playoffs. BUf likely offered vegas pick which is roughly the same value.

There is another near-term RFA that I'd pay a whole lot for isn't a D...

I wonder how the Elias Pettersson saga ends in VAN.

then comes the salary cap---remember that?

 

[joshjull]

There is another near-term RFA that I'd pay a whole lot for isn't a D...

I wonder how the Elias Pettersson saga ends in VAN.

That would be wild

 

[Jim Bob]

That would be wild

E Pete as the Sabres 3C?

Let's go!

 

[Gabrielor]

That would be wild

Let's say they don't win the Bedard lottery.

Next probably comes those panic keep-Eichel-happy moves we saw here. (Hronek might've been the 1st one)

If that fails...he's a RFA next year. He signing anything more than a QO to rush to UFA?

 

[joshjull]

 

[Chainshot]

This is interesting... Is he any good?

No, he's not good. He's tall. That's it.

 

[Chainshot]

There is another near-term RFA that I'd pay a whole lot for isn't a D...

I wonder how the Elias Pettersson saga ends in VAN.

Like every other saga in Vancouver ends. With tears and Aqualini counting money.

 

[Ethan Edwards]

I had a feeling Boston was going to make another move. Well, it was more than a feeling.

 

[Chainshot]

 

[Beerz]

I had a feeling Boston was going to make another move. Well, it was more than a feeling.

I see what u did

 

[Dirty Dog]

No, they’ll just move the goalposts to complain about something else.

Yup. Everyone bitched about this off-season. And how it was going to produce a bad team. When the team became good, the goal posts have shifted.

i hate to say it but this subforum has crossed the threshold into becoming a very negative community where our most frequent posters are negative (it’s the friendliest way I can put it). Every thread is just constant negativity. It’s apparently what the majority of posters want, and that’s totally fine. I understand it, buffalo teams both just had long droughts.

But apart from the bills thread maybe, I don’t think I have any interest in visiting any more.

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

Yup. Everyone bitched about this off-season. And how it was going to produce a bad team. When the team became good, the goal posts have shifted.

i hate to say it but this subforum has crossed the threshold into becoming a very negative community where our most frequent posters are negative (it’s the friendliest way I can put it). Every thread is just constant negativity. It’s apparently what the majority of posters want, and that’s totally fine. I understand it, buffalo teams both just had long droughts.

But apart from the bills thread maybe, I don’t think I have any interest in visiting any more.

Expectations change when circumstances change? What a shock.

 

[Dubi Doo]

But apart from the bills thread maybe, I don’t think I have any interest in visiting any more.

Don't you do it. Once you're one of us, there's no going back.

 

[Chainshot]

Looks like Florida is also taking some precautions for goaltending emergencies -



Fitzpatrick is an Everblades goalie.

 

[WhereAreTheCookies]

Yup. Everyone bitched about this off-season. And how it was going to produce a bad team. When the team became good, the goal posts have shifted.

i hate to say it but this subforum has crossed the threshold into becoming a very negative community where our most frequent posters are negative (it’s the friendliest way I can put it). Every thread is just constant negativity. It’s apparently what the majority of posters want, and that’s totally fine. I understand it, buffalo teams both just had long droughts.

But apart from the bills thread maybe, I don’t think I have any interest in visiting any more.

Honestly I think you're a little bit off base here. Many of the posters who are a little aggravated by Adams inaction didn't bitch about the offseason moves. Personally I defended many of Adams moves this offseason and felt most of them were perfectly fine. I'm still aggravated by his inaction thus far to address needs though. Not saying no one did this offseason, some absolutely did.

As the team progressed and the picture came into view of what was needed and what wasn't you hope the GM see's it as well and does something to try an address it. Even if it's putting a band-aid on it until the offseason. I just don't see it happening right now, and I'm questioning whether Adams actually addresses the areas of need in the offseason or if he makes minimal moves like last year.

The team is progressing faster than expected, sometimes you have to adjust your game plan because of that.

 

[OkimLom]

Yup. Everyone bitched about this off-season. And how it was going to produce a bad team. When the team became good, the goal posts have shifted.

i hate to say it but this subforum has crossed the threshold into becoming a very negative community where our most frequent posters are negative (it’s the friendliest way I can put it). Every thread is just constant negativity. It’s apparently what the majority of posters want, and that’s totally fine. I understand it, buffalo teams both just had long droughts.

But apart from the bills thread maybe, I don’t think I have any interest in visiting any more.

The care in which you care what fans say about the team, is commendable...

 

[Zman5778]

I bet that is more than Adams is willing to spend.

JVR, Reimer, Talbot? Maybe JVR has some limited use to us as a guy that'll get dirty in front of the net.....and he's certainly not worse in his own zone than anyone else........if he comes for a 4th, sure why not?

But I pass on Reimer and Talbot.

 

[Chainshot]

Yup. Everyone bitched about this off-season. And how it was going to produce a bad team. When the team became good, the goal posts have shifted.

i hate to say it but this subforum has crossed the threshold into becoming a very negative community where our most frequent posters are negative (it’s the friendliest way I can put it). Every thread is just constant negativity. It’s apparently what the majority of posters want, and that’s totally fine. I understand it, buffalo teams both just had long droughts.

But apart from the bills thread maybe, I don’t think I have any interest in visiting any more.

Your post is some serious revisionism. There are plenty of us who went to bat for what they did over last season and the summer. There are a few who have had a hate boner for him and the organization throughout.

I posted this a few months ago:

Adams has grown on me which may have been due to not liking the initial hire. He's installed a well-regarded analytics and data department that seems like it has actual input. His scouting staff sing his praises. He's gotten a couple of long-term deals done, not the least of which is Thompson's extension. And he hired a coach - again at first glance that didn't look like he'd done much work - that has worked out wonderfully in terms of unlocking on-ice talent.

I hated Murray's obsession with physical specimens from when he scouted, the workout warriors who crushed the combine. He wanted a Kings' style heavy team, including a heavy defense, and just couldn't make it happen. He ignored his farm team criminally and burned through a stockpile of draft picks. Very little developed internally under him and there is a lot of evidence that toxic culture ruled the day. There wasn't a meathead Murray didn't seem to like and he too befell Pegs cash by bringing in Bylsma who was not a good coach after getting worked by Babcock.

I hated Botterill's coaching hires, especially considering he out-did himself in terms of harm by going from Phil to Ralph. His obsessive collecting of RHD at every level without finding working pairs, his inability to find consistent contributing depth, and his negotiating against himself in contract extensions were annoying as f***. Also bad was his constant bleeding of draft picks, the "most intelligent guy in the room" moments where he turned multiple picks into less and less, and did that over and over.

Regier had issues drafting at the end and some of that was definitely the hand of Quinn on daily operations, but he had built up habits that didn't mesh with having an unfettered budget upon the Pegula purchase. Yes, he won trades, but regularly wait inordinately long to make it so. He lost Hasek due to not getting Peca signed or Peca traded before the end of the season, then got pumped in the trade. That the league moved toward speed/skill/penalty enforcement coming out of the '05 lockout was happenstance that worked out in his favor. Years of unproductive early drafts in the mid-2000's laid the groundwork to having limited depth by the 2010's. He then shit-canned trying to take time to develop players by rushing Gus, Grigorenko, Zadorov and Risto into the bigs, possibly stunting all of 'em.

I want to see Adams build on his successes, even if that means pushing forward his plan. He's been patient, the new challenge is can he find a way to help fill his roster holes now to get even more out of the new-found offensive success of his current team.

I still want to see Adams build on his successes. The team is ahead of schedule, that's been said by local guys like Lysowski and Yerdon as much as it has by national guys like Weekes, Lebrun, Friedman and various NHLNetwork/Sportsnet/TSN analysts. And being ahead of where they expected to be means revising considerations for the horizons that the team is operating under.

 

[DapperCam]

Honestly I think you're a little bit off base here. Many of the posters who are a little aggravated by Adams inaction didn't bitch about the offseason moves. Personally I defended many of Adams moves this offseason and felt most of them were perfectly fine. I'm still aggravated by his inaction thus far to address needs though. Not saying no one did this offseason, some absolutely did.

As the team progressed and the picture came into view of what was needed and what wasn't you hope the GM see's it as well and does something to try an address it. Even if it's putting a band-aid on it until the offseason. I just don't see it happening right now, and I'm questioning whether Adams actually addresses the areas of need in the offseason or if he makes minimal moves like last year.

The team is progressing faster than expected, sometimes you have to adjust your game plan because of that.

I was mostly fine with the off-season moves, but I thought Jokiharju was going to be a league average second pair defenseman and Bryson would be a pretty good bottom pair defenseman. That hasn’t really been the case, so circumstances change.

 

[BFLO]

look at other areas of the country and the radius around them. many are 75 mile+ radii around the cities.

North to South Seattle is 150 miles along I-5 without taking into account wider metro areas. Thats the same as Buffalo thru syracuse

Houston as well has such a radius as does Dallas. DC market would reach out past rochester.

look at 75 mile radius and count all the population within that radius. 75miles as the bird flies getsmost of toronto metro and hamilton. It would include all of Rochester and parts of elmira and parts of Erie, Pa

I did. Have you?

DC metro area is 5,600sq miles, Seattle 5,800. Dallas 8,700

Your proposed "Buffalo" is 15,000sq miles. And I didn't even go all the way Syracuse.

This is an area larger than Massachusetts, Connecticut and RI combined.

 

[Selanne00008]

I also don't see the reason to panic and complain and get all frustrated with the pitchforks until the deadline is over with.