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Suntouchable13 said:
So if this is not the "right time" when will it be? When you re-sign Marner and JT, what would be so different next year? I don't get the plan here? Why do you have all these guys here for and paying them through the nose?
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Why over pay when they are not a legit contender based on Matthews being a shell of his former self, Reilly being a slug and their lack of depth on defence.

This summer is the first time Tre has the huge cap room to do some big things. Over $30 million in cap space to retool

I look at this as the summer when Florida traded for Tkachuk. They will make big moves
 
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Malachi Crunch said:
Some info from Friedman:

-They want a 1st for Laughton (not as high as what Dreger is saying)
-Dallas are still working with Rantanan on a deal
-ROR is most likely going to stay in Nashville. That's his preference.
-B. Schenn's price is 2 big pieces (1st and a good prospect). That's a bit lower than what Dreger said.
-Chicago are trying to sign Donato
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I should add that Friedman said that this is how it is at this point in time. At 3pm, things may change.
 
I mean like, if the Jets move a 1st on Laughton and beat us out, would anyone lose sleep over that?

At a certain point it has to come from within. The core have to do it. It has to come from them. With the way Stolarz is playing you can't use goaltending as an excuse. Do or do not, there is no try.
 
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I'd be interested in Schenn retained if the price was something like...

1st + Robertson + Minten

Not interested in giving up the likes of Cowan, Grebyonkin or Danford in that deal (although I'd move Danford if absolutely required). I'd like to see the Leafs move on from of their current depth wing / center players (Kampf, Robertson, Dewar, Jarnkrok) and part of that process for me is bringing in the likes of Grebyonkin and Cowan on ELCs to round out the roster with talent and keep it below the cap.
 
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Ultimately, the loss against Vegas may be the best outcome for this franchise.

As Marner said "this is a wake up call". Indeed. Perhaps, maybe, possibly, amazingly now MLSE and Bran Tre understand what they have. A core that will never compete against stronger, heavier more committed teams.

It's actually amazing to me that what I could obviously see even before the Habs series but certainly during and after never forced changed. I was a lone person in the wilderness when I predicted the Leafs would lose to Columbus and that was before the Habs series.

The fact is that Leafs ownership and it's fans have represented the definition of insanity for a long time.
 
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The Shadow said:
Why over pay when they are not a legit contender based on Matthews being a shell of his former self, Reilly being a slug and their lack of depth on defence.

This summer is the first time Tre has the huge cap room to do some big things. Over $30 million in cap space to retool

I look at this as the summer when Florida traded for Tkachuk. They will make big moves
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Yes, but will the Leafs do that? Or will they just re-sign JT and Marner and run it back?
 
IrishInOntario said:
I'd be interested in Schenn retained if the price was something like...

1st + Robertson + Minten

Not interested in giving up the likes of Cowan, Grebyonkin or Danford in that deal (although I'd move Danford if absolutely required). I'd like to see the Leafs move on from of their current depth wing / center players (Kampf, Robertson, Dewar, Jarnkrok) and part of that process for me is bringing in the likes of Grebyonkin and Cowan on ELCs to round out the roster with talent and keep it below the cap.
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Gross
 
My take on all-in:
To TOR: Geekie (500k), Carlo, Reimer (500k)
To BOS: Cowan, TOR 26 1st, Jarnkrok, Geekie 1M retention
To BUF: COL 25 3rd, Benoit, 500k Geekie retention, Reimer 500k retention

To PHI: Woll, Minten
To TOR: Foerster (50% retained), Laughton

To CHI: Domi, FLA 25 2nd
To TOR: Dickinson (LTIR)

Knies-Matthews-Marner
McMann-Geekie-Nylander
Laughton-Tavares-Foerster
Lorentz-Kampf-Holmberg
Dewar

McCabe-Tanev
Rielly-Carlo
OEL-Myers
Timmins

Stolarz
Reimer

LTIR: Dickinson, Pacioretty

To activate Dickinson they'd need to send down Dewar.

All players acquired are under team control for next season (except Reimer).
 
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The Leafs should be targeting Donato, Kunin and Tanev for their forward group. 2 of Oleshiak, Murphy, Schenn, Savard, Carlo on defence.

Clear cap by shedding Kampf, Dewar, Timmons, Benoit, Reaves, Domi, Holmberg

Lineup:

Knies-Matthews-Marner
McMann-Tavares-Nylander
Jarnkrok-Donato-Robertson
Lorrentz-Kunin-Tanev

Reilly-Oleshiak
McCabe-Tanev
OEL- Schenn/Savard

Stolarz
Woll

This may not be as flashy as some would want. But it makes the team tougher to play against, while upgrading our scoring potential a bit. Donato>Domi, Kunin>Kampf, Tanev>Reaves. Plus Jarnkrok is better for what we need offensively and defensively then Domi although sad to say.
 
Leafsfan74 said:
Ultimately, the loss against Vegas may be the best outcome for this franchise.

As Marner said "this is a wake up call". Indeed. Perhaps, maybe, possibly, amazingly now MLSE and Bran Tre understand what they have. A core that will never compete against stronger, heavier more committed teams.

It's actually amazing to me that what I could obviously even before the Habs series but certainly during and after never forced changed. I was a long person in the wilderness when I predicted the Leafs would lose to Columbus and that was before the Habs series.

The fact is that Leafs ownership and it's fans have represented the definition of insanity for a long time.
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Yes I agree with this. Perfect timing. And also Matthews as the captain saying after the loss ‘maybe we expected an easier night’

He’s a loser
 
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Americanadian said:
My take on all-in:
To TOR: Geekie (500k), Carlo, Reimer
To BOS: Cowan, TOR 26 1st, Jarnkrok
To BUF: COL 25 3rd, Benoit

To PHI: Woll, Minten
To TOR: Foerster, Laughton

To CHI: Domi, FLA 25 2nd
To TOR: Dickinson (LTIR)

Knies-Matthews-Marner
McMann-Geekie-Nylander
Laughton-Tavares-Foerster
Lorentz-Kampf-Holmberg
Dewar

McCabe-Tanev
Rielly-Carlo
OEL-Myers
Timmins

Stolarz
Reimer

LTIR: Dickinson, Pacioretty

To activate Dickinson they'd need to send down Dewar and Timmins and run a 21-man roster or hope for another injury.

All players acquired are under team control for next season (except Reimer).
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I'd be interested in geekie but no Carlo. We need an offensive defenceman
 
I kinda hope we don't really do much, the prices floated around (of course everything Leafs is gonna be cooked for clicks) far outway what would likely be brought in. Tanev and Stolarz are the biggest additions we could have made over previous years and maybe Matthews will decide to look like a superstar again soon. My bet is a 6th defenseman and another bottom line forward.
 
Nineteen67 said:
That seems way too high a price for Schenn
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It's a buyer's market—look at the price it took for Brock Nelson.

For Schenn, if we were to get him at $4.5M, that's $8 million retained over four years.

Broken down:

A first-round pick for $8 million in retention on Schenn.

And then Cowan + Danford for Schenn.

I just feel that would be the cost given some of the other deals. If people want to cry about the prices, they shouldn't complain when Tre stands pat.
 
KPower said:
Gross
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I just completely disagree.

Robertson wants out of Toronto and is Just a "meh" player for the Leafs that would probably be better elsewhere. Doesn't have a playoff body or skill set IMO.

Minten is not likely to be a better center / player than Schenn will be through his mid 30's.

The 1st round pick will simply be a lottery ticket that is unlikely to contribute to this core for a number of years.

In Tavares extended and Schenn you'd have two 2C/3C types with some tread and scoring ability left.

I'd love to go into next year with the following in the top 9...

Knies-Matthews-Domi
Addition-Tavares-Nylander
McMann-Schenn-Grebyonkin/Cowan
 
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