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Rare Jewel said:
Ambitious.

He's not going to get that, though.
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I dunno every GM we get can't negotiate for shit. So who knows. Either way I don't want to give up knies for anything than a straight up win. Harley is that. Something like frondell+4oa is that although unsure how we compete now with that but you get the point.

For me it's simple. Get fleeced or we don't trade knies because we shouldn't be trading him.
 
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ER89 said:
I dunno every GM we get can't negotiate for shit. So who knows. Either way I don't want to give up knies for anything than a straight up win. Harley is that. Something like frondell+4oa is that although unsure how we compete now with that but you get the point.

For me it's simple. Get fleeced or we don't trade knies because we shouldn't be trading him.
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I've been tooting the Harley/Knies idea for a while, if you are going to do a deal with him. But I don't disagree with most of this. He (Knies) is a valuable player, and I would worry about the forward group dynamics without one of Knies or Cowan

The thing is, if they're going to tangibly improve the backend, it does feel like a young forward may need to be parted with, as there's likely some other combination of teams that could come up with that could make it a conversation at least.
 
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Rare Jewel said:
I've been tooting the Harley/Knies idea for a while, if you are going to do a deal with him. But I don't disagree with most of this. He (Knies) is a valuable player, and I would worry about the forward group dynamics without one of Knies or Cowan

The thing is, if they're going to tangibly improve the backend, it does feel like a young forward may need to be parted with af there's likely some other combination of teams could come up with that could make it a conversation at least.
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I'd rather trade Cowan for a dman than Knies

We need his size
 
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Aashir said:
The more I think about it the more I get confused on our defence

as of now we have:

Rielly - OEL
McCabe - Tanev
Andrae - Carlo
Villenueve/Myers

IF Rielly is gone and we get one of Raddysh or Andersson we have:
McCabe - Andersson/Raddysh
OEL - Tanev
Andrae - Carlo
V/M

Which spot is open to upgrade and who is out of the lineup to allow for that? I guess if Andrae is a #7 then you can have McCabe and OEL move down a pairing and get a new top4 LHD but then the bottom 4 is OLD AF...getting a nemec would push tanev or carlo out the lineup, and now we don't have 2 pairings for the pk. getting a zelwegger now either has us running two bottom pairers on the left side, or it has no real change if zelwegger comes in for andrae (in the short term)...

it just seems like one of tanev or oel needs to be pushed out of the lineup and potentially traded, but I don't see either happening

hopefully chayka can cook something up because otherwise idk what we do.
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Andrea isn't going to be the #7. I think they're going to trade 1-2 guys, Rielly + Carlo + maybe even someone else probably get moved out for assets.

Tanev probably is going to need to play on the bottom pairing due to age and wear/tear on the body. By NHL standards he's ancient for a D man

weems said:
There's just been waaaayyy too much smoke around Knies being dealt now for me to not believe they're actively open to the idea.

If they weren't, they'd come out and say "We aren't trading our young player, end of story" but that hasn't happened.

Winning the lottery and the #1 guy being a LW'er changes so much, because we're now left with all our best young players playing the same position, one that is arguably the least valuable on a hockey team while we have holes going forward at C and D.
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I suspect they're strongly gaging his value - zero trade protecting + high value + the immediate team needs of a top pairing D man + top six centre. Though that.doesnr necessarily mean he's a locl to be traded, he's popular and makes a hole in the lineup.

I do suspect the tv/radio media guys are going to be throwing a lot of garbage out there over the summer if they continue to get shut out by this front office as far as leaks go. Dreger was already doing the dirty work of other GMs today on this.....
 
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Hockey 4 Life said:
Mateychuk + Voronkov + 14th overall For knies + 2026 2nd would be another solid deal.
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This is one of the few deal frameworks for Knies that I would be on board with because I think that highly of Mateychuk and Voronkov, at 25 (with size) fits seamlessly into a middle 6 LW role along with Cowan. The 12th overall pick is also a powerful tool in my quest to land Robert Thomas.

Columbus probably would need a little bit more so I'd do...

To Columbus
Matthew Knies
Brandon Carlo
2026 2nd Round Pick

To Toronto
Denton Mateychuk
Dmitri Voronkov
1st Round Pick (12th Overall)

I would then attempt to package that 12th overall pick to St. Louis for Robert Thomas:

To St. Louis
Nick Robertson
Tinus Luc Koblar
2026 1st Round pick (12th overall)
2027 1st Round pick (Colorado)

To Toronto
Robert Thomas

Sign Raddysh,Tuch and Tolvanen in free agency.

Draft McKenna 1st overall.

McKenna-Matthews-Nylander
Cowan-Thomas-Tuch
Voronkov-Tavares-Tolvanen
Joshua-Quillan-Lorentz

McCabe-Mateychuck
OEL-Raddysh
Andrae-Tanev
Danford
 
Phion Keneuf said:
OEL is not a 3rd pairing guy.
There are not 100 D better than OEL in the league.

He played over 20 mins a night and put up 40 points while not being a liability defensively.
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Hes too old, same with Tanev

In an Ideal world andrae is able to break out and take the reigns as a 2nd pair LHD.

McCabe - Raddysh - strong 1 pair if Raddysh can retain his 70 point play. If he drops to 50ish pts then its a subpar 1st pairing

Andrae - RHD (Carlson) - if Andrae could be a true top 4 paired with a stop gap guy like Carlson it would form a great 2nd pairing.

OEL - Tanev - great 3rd pairing which can be moved up when/if needed. Both are old as dirt and have higher injury risks but still have good skills that help in winnings games and come playoff team them starting on the third pair would be an elite dcore.
 


So, that’s Nashville, St Louis and NJD.

Nashville. Josi, 10 OA and Wood?
St Louis. Parayko, 11 OA and ??(Thomas? Snuggerud?)
NJD Nemec, Mercer, 12 OA?

I doubt there is truth to this, but that’s what Kyper is saying.
 
Fogelhund said:


So, that’s Nashville, St Louis and NJD.

Nashville. Josi, 10 OA and Wood?
St Louis. Parayko, 11 OA and ??
NJD Nemec, Mercer, 12 OA?

I doubt there is truth to this, but that’s what Kyper is saying.
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I saw someone suggest Josi, 10th and Evangelista, but I looking at box scores stats, that maybe a lot?
 
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So, that’s Nashville, St Louis and NJD.

Nashville. Josi, 10 OA and Wood?
St Louis. Parayko, 11 OA and ??(Thomas? Snuggerud?)
NJD Nemec, Mercer, 12 OA?

I doubt there is truth to this, but that’s what Kyper is saying.
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IMO, Nemec fits what Chayka would be looking at. Highly gifted 22 year old RHD in addition to drafting McKenna. This I could see.
Future right side:
Raddysh, Nemec, Danford
 
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