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I challenged an NJD fan on this very point recently.

If we drafted Chase Reid with the 2OA pick this June, and things were generally going according to script and he was developing into a foundational piece, would you be tossing his name around in the trade market 4 years from now? The answer is hell no.

That's all you need to know about Nemec. Love to get him as a reclamation, but not as loose change coming back for Knies.
Agreed... the one reason I'd be a little bit interested is that he has been coached by Keefe and his weird rotating D with forwards offensive strategy. He's a a very poor coach IMO. So we might buying low on a #1 pairing Dman. And if that's the case getting additional pieces on top of a #1 pairing dman for Knies would be huge.

But... big risk as you've pointed out because Knies is more a sure thing and on a very good contract.
 
So, it isn't NJ fans?

Anyway, even in your Reid example with us, say he did disappoint, you/we would still want to recoup some value from the pick, which is the spot the NJ fans find themselves in, where they don't want to give him away, but putting him in a package may be the best way to do it.

Is that for Knies? clearly not some people in here, and that's fine. The impression I've got through going through the threads with this idea, even going back to the deadline, is that it's closer than we think.

So I don't know, we often get accused of overrating our own stuff, or are they just being haters?
 
So, it isn't NJ fans?

Anyway, even in your Reid example with us, say he did disappoint, you/we would still want to recoup some value from the pick, which is the spot the NJ fans find themselves in, where they don't want to give him away, but putting him in a package may be the best way to do it.

Is that for Knies? clearly not some people in here, and that's fine. The impression I've got through going through the threads with this idea, even going back to the deadline, is that it's closer than we think.

So I don't know, we often get accused of overrating our own stuff, or are they just being haters?
What fans think is fair is so completely moot, especially with the massive anti-Leafs bias on here and elsewhere.

If anyone takes that even remotely seriously, them they seriously need to examine all the life choices that somehow led to thinking that is remotely relevant......
 
I know Knies is our best chance to get a haul or long missing top D, but I would hope management is trying to identify the players that set the culture and identity of the team. I think some combo of Knies, Cowan, Danford could be start of a tenacious identity that is different from the wine and dine of the previous culture.
 
So, it isn't NJ fans?

Anyway, even in your Reid example with us, say he did disappoint, you/we would still want to recoup some value from the pick, which is the spot the NJ fans find themselves in, where they don't want to give him away, but putting him in a package may be the best way to do it.

Is that for Knies? clearly not some people in here, and that's fine. The impression I've got through going through the threads with this idea, even going back to the deadline, is that it's closer than we think.

So I don't know, we often get accused of overrating our own stuff, or are they just being haters?

We can’t be trading Knies for these kind of futures packages to make up for the deficit from the Laughton and Carlo trades. I don’t care what other teams want to give us for Knies. I’m hostile to the conversation.

NJ fans are constantly trying to get something for Nemec.
 
What fans think is fair is so completely moot, especially with the massive anti-Leafs bias on here and elsewhere.

If anyone takes that even remotely seriously, them they seriously need to examine all the life choices that somehow led to thinking that is remotely relevant......
It's not that deep, man. It's only game.

I think all fan bases do to some extent, and certainly when a player is riding a particular high, and likely far too harshly when they're down.

I mean, look at the reaction to the Woll trade in some cases. For some, his perceived value and the trade didn't exactly line up.
 

I'd take on Pettersson full freight if it brought down the cost to aquire him

He's unbelievably talented and I think that cap hit is going to become less of a problem as the deal ages, he's the ideal 2C who can play on the wing if you want to load up

I think he will get back to himself with Nylander on his wing and Sundin to mentor him in the organization
 
Only way we should get rid of Knies is for a top package the 4th overall plus Rinzel plus Greene or Nazar
I was going to say the exact same with 4th, Rinzel and Greene. I like Greene's ability to play both C and RW, apparently defensively responsible, plays PP and PK, 6.1 and 195 lbs, who is good on his skates and has his first season under his belt playing alongside a top talent (Bedard) for a good portion of the year.

From Elite Prospects, "Greene is a puck-carrying center. His skating pace and smooth stickhandling allow him to cleanly exit the defensive zone and move the puck up the ice. He plays with poise under pressure and uses great vision to set up his wingers." Which would make him a potential C for Nylander? Or compliment the offensive flair of Matthews and McKenna?

4th OA is very intriguing. McKenna/Stenberg/Malhotra/Reid appear to be the top 4, though with all the other Dmen who are highly rated, who knows. But, if SJ goes for Reid or another D, I'd be quite interested in trying to convince the 'Nucks to swap picks with us adding ??? because I'd love to get Malhotra with the 3rd pick and fear Vancouver would pick him at 3.

An offseason where we gain: McKenna, Malhotra, Rinzel and Greene, plus the TLK signing, and the development we're witnessing in Danford, Cowan and Akteyamov would be a stunningly good achievement.
 
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Im looking at Dickinson as 3C if we cant get someone younger via trade.

Excellent play driver, physical, excellent defense and PK. This takes a lot of defensive pressure off of Matthews.

Could be a good fit with mikheyev

Mikheyev - Dickinson - Cowan
 
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I'd take on Pettersson full freight if it brought down the cost to aquire him

He's unbelievably talented and I think that cap hit is going to become less of a problem as the deal ages, he's the ideal 2C who can play on the wing if you want to load up

I think he will get back to himself with Nylander on his wing and Sundin to mentor him in the organization
While I like the idea, I'm not sure how much mentoring Sundin could accomplish that the twins in Vancouver couldn't. But, as you mentioned, Nylander. Now that's an exciting consideration, though it could prove to be a nightmare. On the one hand - damn that talent - on the other hand - yikes, those boneheaded defensive gaffs - which way would it go? It's a darned sexy consideration, I think you'd have to think about it. What would be the cost?
 
I know Knies is our best chance to get a haul or long missing top D, but I would hope management is trying to identify the players that set the culture and identity of the team. I think some combo of Knies, Cowan, Danford could be start of a tenacious identity that is different from the wine and dine of the previous culture.
Also Andrae ....everyone speaks how highly competive he is.
 
Nemec is so much better than Jiricek offensively its not even remotely close.

I really fail to see why people undervalue Nemec so much. Sheldon "i refuse to play young defenseman" Keefe is his coach. His offensive opportunities have been blocked by Hughes and Hamilton. He has attached an anchor in Kastelic, Siegenthaler, and Dillon to all of those guys similar to how Holl played a billion minutes for us. Its a dude who in the year of 2025-26 had Connor freaking Brown as his 5th most played forward at 5v5 and a permanent spot on the PP. Give Nemec actual minutes with a real 2-way defenseman and a PP1 season.

I'd still want to hold off on Knies for him as I think NJ, and specifically Keefe tanked his value, but I'd love to get a deal done somehow.
Isn’t Luke Hughes a young D Keefe is playing?
 

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