GDT: Trade and Free agent Rumours thread | Chayka off-season edition

[Jmo89]

I can guarantee you that if Toronto does acquire Werenski today, you're going to be reading later today that TOR just gave up a unicorn and other good assets for a two-year wonder who's a prima donna and will leave in 2028 anyway and that they somehow made their team worse today and for the future... lol.

100%.

 

[BoBfromAulon]

I guess my problem with this logic is I don't see why Dallas would part with Harley except for Werenski.

It made sense to be after Knies as a cheaper Robertson replacement but I don't think you move Harley like that.... Upgrades on Thomas Harley are hard to find

Believe it or not Harley seems very unpopular among Dallas fans (overpaid, underperforming, vanilla...)
His name is out there, so he might as well ask to be moved. Nill might have enough with players with NMCs, so he is quite desperate...

 

[613Leafer]

We haven't had a Werenski caliber D in Toronto since Salming. Would be massive to get him.

With him blocking a trade to Dallas, and obviously being picky about where he goes, the one thing if he comes here is that you have to think we have a pretty good shot at re-signing him (and Matthews), as long as the team is good and the overall direction is positive.

 

[thewave]

My thread regarding not doing a deal with Bob was removed but the facts remain.

He is too old for term

He declined last year

It's risky with our kids development

The prices sound outlandish

It should be avoided save for 1 year maybe. I wouldn't.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

With him blocking a trade to Dallas, and obviously being picky about where he goes, the one thing if he comes here is that you have to think we have a pretty good shot at re-signing him (and Matthews), as long as the team is good and the overall direction is positive.

That is just as important as getting Werenski and what he brings. It will lock in a core of Matthews, Werenski, Nylander, Mckenna, and Raddysh. Thats a franchise 1C, 1D, two 1W and a top pair D in Raddysh. The only thing missing is a permanent 2c long term who wr hopefully have in TLK.

 

[rumman]

The "core" has failed since 67

34 and 88 are not waiving

Enjoy the ride . Every year is different.

I remeber the cup as a kid. You will get used to disappointment.

That's sports

I expect little to nothing so I won’t be that disappointed if once again they shit the bed, this is the prudent attitude to take if your a life long Leaf fan.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

I expect little to nothing so I won’t be that disappointed if once again they shit the bed, this is the prudent attitude to take if your a life long Leaf fan.

Its really the only way to function as a life long leaf fan lol.

 

[Jmo89]

My thread regarding not doing a deal with Bob was removed but the facts remain.

He is too old for term

He declined last year

It's risky with our kids development

The prices sound outlandish

It should be avoided save for 1 year maybe. I wouldn't.

We need you to convert your negative energy about Bob into positive energy about Werenski.

 

[rumman]

Bob for 4.5M × 5 years ain't bad. Trade that contract to a cap floor team in a few years.

That’s assuming he doesn’t get a NMC, which he will most definitely get, best outcome is Robidas Island for the latter half of his contract.

 

[BobClarkesfrontteeth]

Believe it or not Harley seems very unpopular among Dallas fans (overpaid, underperforming, vanilla...)
His name is out there, so he might as well ask to be moved. Nill might have enough with players with NMCs, so he is quite desperate...

Got to believe Chayka is talking to both Dallas and Columbus working both of them against each other at this point. Werenski wanting to stay East will hurt the return Columbus gets. How many teams realistically have assets to give, can compete after the trade and have the need for a number 1. Tampa, Toronto, Carolina, and maybe New Jersey. The teams that miss out on Werenski can then circle back to Dallas on Harley.
I could see the Leafs offering something like Knies, Hildeby, Rielly, and picks/prospect and it might be the best package.

 

[rumman]

Its really the only way to function as a life long leaf fan lol.

Indeed.

 

[SprDaVE]

 

[Duffman955]

Not only was the trade horrible, the contract is going to be worse

 

[thewave]

We need you to convert your negative energy about Bob into positive energy about Werenski.

I am even more positive about Werenski than negative about Bob. Werenski is my 2018-2019 getting Kawhi NHL edition.

Werenski is a game changer for us. If they let it slip... They can not let it slip

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

The lightening dont have the assets to beat a Leafs package. Toronto has Knies, Cowan, Danford, Hildeby TLK, a 1st two 2nds. Bolts have Moser and not a lot more.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Just as much as the Leafs need Werenski....you can't let him end up in division either. A lot of pressure to make this work.

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

Rip to Dallas, go back to the 90s jerseys. Current design is bottom 5 in the league

 

[BobClarkesfrontteeth]

Not only was the trade horrible, the contract is going to be worse

Someone has to challenge Mike Milbury as the worst trading GM of all time. Jim Benning might have been the losingest GM of all time though in trades. He won trades at a 4% rate. You read that correctly Benning won 4 trades in every 100 he made. lol

 

[TMLeafer]

I can guarantee you that if Toronto does acquire Werenski today, you're going to be reading later today that TOR just gave up a unicorn and other good assets for a two-year wonder who's a prima donna and will leave in 2028 anyway and that they somehow made their team worse today and for the future... lol.

Don't forget, Werenski would suddenly go from top 5 dman to "outside the top 20".

 

[Fogelhund]

Happy Canada Day from Playa del Carmen.

Should be a fun day for Free agency and perhaps trades?

 

[SprDaVE]

Don't forget, Werenski would suddenly go from top 5 dman to "outside the top 20".

"Columbus couldn't win with him... he won't help Toronto"

 

[Nineteen67]

The lightening dont have the assets to beat a Leafs package. Toronto has Knies, Cowan, Danford, Hildeby TLK, a 1st two 2nds. Bolts have Moser and not a lot more.

You ask Nylander to waive first, before you offer all that.

 

[rumman]

That is just as important as getting Werenski and what he brings. It will lock in a core of Matthews, Werenski, Nylander, Mckenna, and Raddysh. Thats a franchise 1C, 1D, two 1W and a top pair D in Raddysh. The only thing missing is a permanent 2c long term who wr hopefully have in TLK.

There was once a time where team ownership controlled the fate of the players, now it’s the players who control the league, hopefully the pendulum stops swinging back and forth and common sense becomes the norm. I hate that it’s been one or the other because the fans are the one’s who truly get screwed over.

 

[HavingACow4Cowan]

Don't forget, Werenski would suddenly go from top 5 dman to "outside the top 20".

lol... yes.

He seems like a darling on this website. People recognize him as one of the best defenseman in hockey. I never see much criticism of him (granted, I don't follow Metro division discussion closely).

Things will change drastically if he becomes a Leaf.

 

[BobClarkesfrontteeth]

Don't forget, Werenski would suddenly go from top 5 dman to "outside the top 20".

You mean he would be a bottom 4 defenseman on a cup contending team.