GDT: Trade and Free agent Rumours thread | Chayka off-season edition

[hockeywiz542]

 

[BobClarkesfrontteeth]

I would agree that Buffalo would be hesitant to move Power... but I'm hesitant to move Knies. If moving Knies doesn't result in obtaining a D man, who can play on our top pair immediately, it's a deal I'm not interested in.... unless it becomes a ridiculous ridiculous overpay.

Power is stuck behind Dahlin in top offensive opportunities, and doesn't get a lot of PP time, or with the top unit. You aren't getting Power to be a #1 D, you are getting him, because the type of D he is, and will be, is exactly the kind of guy you want to be playing with Raddysh. He's the top results PK D on Buffalo, and provides a steadying influence on the D.

Power played a ton on his offside, babysitting Bryam... a guy who really doesn't know how to play Defense... and they ended up positive +-. He's only 23, still learning his craft, and signed for five more years.

Power and Raddysh would make an excellent top pairing for us, for years to come... frankly, there aren't too many guys you'd prefer to have with Raddysh, based on skill set, and age.

In the years to come, people will realize that they were sleeping on Power.... though he'll still never get the offensive opportunities to fulfill his potential in Buffalo. He'll be stuck on the 2nd line, not because he isn't good, but because Dahlin is elite.

Have to think having the 4OV and the ability to draft a top end dman for Buffalo if they move Power helps. Trade Power and then draft Reid while adding a player like Knies to play with that group is good asset management by Jarmo.

 

[Duffman955]

Such BS from Chayka. I am so sick of the same core that never got it done. Over and over and over again. It's gotten quite stale.

Carolina had the same core, same coach for years getting ass blasted in the playoffs as soon as they face an Atlantic division team.

Finally they break through with the same core.

 

[Fogelhund]

Just from what I have observed I just haven’t seen it in Power. He isn’t a bad player, just not one that has wow’d me.
Sure if you give him more opportunities maybe he gives you more but he has never been someone I come away from watching and think that he is a star.

I don't think he'll ever wow anyone, ever. He doesn't have the game for it. Big guy, but doesn't throw the big hits you remember. (Unfortunately) He'll never have gaudy offensive numbers, or be flashy. What he will be, is a quiet, and effective D man, and I think in a few years, he'll be one of the best in the game at that. No flash, just effectively winning minutes, and at a high end level.

But, he has the game that would allow Raddysh to do exactly what he wants, and cover for that. It's about balance, and I think Power has the game to be a great compliment on a top pair, for a guy like Raddysh.

 

[dubplatepressure]

I don't think Knies is getting traded. I even said so despite all the strong rumours lately. We'll see.

I think the market timing is perfect to make a big move and GMs love to add their fingerprint on a team. As great as Knies is if done correctly this could set the team up for years.

 

[SprDaVE]

I think the market timing is perfect to make a big move and GMs love to add their fingerprint on a team. As great as Knies is if done correctly this could set the team up for years.

Yeah don't disagree, but I don't think teams will pay what the Leafs will want, as they should.

 

[Fogelhund]

Have to think having the 4OV and the ability to draft a top end dman for Buffalo if they move Power helps. Trade Power and then draft Reid while adding a player like Knies to play with that group is good asset management by Jarmo.

I would agree... but it's just not something I feel comfortable with... if someone wants Knies, it's going to be an overpayment, especially in division.... remember, we aren't shopping him, don't need to move him, it's others approaching us. If you want him that bad, pay up.. and it's going to hurt.

 

[cyris]

It really depends on what else comes with any trade package right? If you get Power + 4OA... maybe you want the C? Whether that's Malholtra, or Bjork... we'd have choices. I'm not convinced Malholtra is going to be a first line C, but I think a 45-60 point, responsible 2 way game, is what we'd love to have behind Matthews... assuming he's here for the duration.

If you get forwards... like McLeod, or Helenius... then you probably draft D....

I think it's a...depends on what we've got, and what we need.

I kinda agree for the most part but I think you always have to draft BPA at the top part of the draft.
Pick the guy you think is the best prospect and figure the rest out later

 

[SprDaVE]

Kyper links Werenski to Toronto as an option if it gets to that.

He also says the market for Rielly isn't very good and good chance he stays with the Leafs.

 

[Duffman955]

What actual FAs do yall think we targetting

Its slim pickings out here. Probably mostly bottom 6 options now.

 

[Fogelhund]

 

[Torontonian]

I'd really take what Chayka says with a grain of salt, not exactly smart business to go out and tell teams/agents that XYZ players will be traded.

He also acknowledge the team needs to add players between now and 10 days from now.

 

[Fogelhund]

I kinda agree for the most part but I think you always have to draft BPA at the top part of the draft.
Pick the guy you think is the best prospect and figure the rest out later

Assuming there really is much of a difference in the ranking... if you've got a group of players that rank out pretty close to each other....

 

[cyris]

I don't think he'll ever wow anyone, ever. He doesn't have the game for it. Big guy, but doesn't throw the big hits you remember. (Unfortunately) He'll never have gaudy offensive numbers, or be flashy. What he will be, is a quiet, and effective D man, and I think in a few years, he'll be one of the best in the game at that. No flash, just effectively winning minutes, and at a high end level.

But, he has the game that would allow Raddysh to do exactly what he wants, and cover for that. It's about balance, and I think Power has the game to be a great compliment on a top pair, for a guy like Raddysh.

Which sounds a lot like what I said he was. A real good #3.
And because Buffalo just traded Byram they will be more hesitant to move him meaning they squeeze you harder on the return.
I’m much more interested in other pieces they have like the 2 prospects who have been mentioned and whose names I don’t want to try to spell. McLoud and the 20th pick in addition to the 1st.

 

[BobClarkesfrontteeth]

I would agree... but it's just not something I feel comfortable with... if someone wants Knies, it's going to be an overpayment, especially in division.... remember, we aren't shopping him, don't need to move him, it's others approaching us. If you want him that bad, pay up.. and it's going to hurt.

Oh I don't mean move Knies straight up. I mean Power, Helenius, McLeod and 20OV it has to be an over pay for me to do anything with Knies. I just think about Jarmo getting that 4OV when they absolutely don't need it unless he is trying to make a big swing here. My other thought is he is trying to get Thomas our of St.Louis.

 

[cyris]

Assuming there really is much of a difference in the ranking... if you've got a group of players that rank out pretty close to each other....

Sure but teams will definitely have internal rankings. And for me personally I wouldn’t have either of the Cs people are talking about ranked that high.
Sure the Dmen carry risk too. Dmen picked high in the draft always seem to. But reaching for a C never works either

 

[mapleleafs34]

Zero reason for Chayka to say he's moving Rielly 100%. Gives the other teams all the leverage. We are also not in a cap crunch where we are forced to move him either so it makes sense to only move him if the offer is there.

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

I’m not that high on Power. I think he tops out as a good #3 Dman.
I also really don’t think Buffalo wants to trade him after they just moved Byram.

You will get much better value out of them from other players.

He’s already a good 3 . Guy was great defensively last year and is just scratching the surface offensively ( mostly hasn’t had the opps ) . He’s much much better than Byram

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[phillipmike]

Kyper had this at the deadline:



Please give that to me today.

Then give me Knies for Helenius and 4th overall tomorrow.

 

[leafsfan5]

If Werenski is willing to come here I am all in, we will never get another chance at a top 3-dman in the world

 

[phillipmike]

There is a link to Toronto here and it's that Werenski's agent, Judd Moldaver, is the same as Auston Matthews' and they both have contracts expiring in two years. The first question is: would Werenski be willing to come to Toronto? The second question is, if so, what kind of offer would it take from the Leafs to get him from Columbus? Would a deal around Matthew Knies and Colorado's 2027 first-round pick be a good place to start? Does prospect defenceman Ben Danford excite anyone after his performance in the Calder Cup playoffs? Would the Jackets want to explore having Rielly in this package? If Werenski is willing to come up north and Columbus acts as quickly as Ottawa did with Tkachuk, this could be a go big or go home chance for Toronto.

 

[dubplatepressure]

Kyper had this at the deadline:



Please give that to me today.

Then give me Knies for Helenius and 4th overall tomorrow.

What would we have to add to Carlo for Mrtka? Does a 2nd get it done?

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

Kyper had this at the deadline:



Please give that to me today.

Then give me Knies for Helenius and 4th overall tomorrow.

I feel Carlos worth is about a 2 and a 3 . This would obviously be much better . Don’t think it lives in reality though

 

[phillipmike]

What would we have to add to Carlo for Mrtka? Does a 2nd get it done?

I personally don’t see it unless we are adding something major or if Buffalo has really soured on Mrtka.

It’s just funny that Kyper says this a few months ago and then 5 minutes ago say Carlo is worth a 3rd and 4th.