GDT: Trade and Free agent Rumours thread | Chayka off-season edition

[TMLAM34]

This is strictly if Reid is still available at 4 tomorrow.

To Toronto-
4th overall pick (Chase Reid)
Ryan McLeod
Radim Mrtka

To Buffalo-
Matthew Knies
Brandon Carlo

I suggested a very similar deal, just had Kulich also coming our way.

Buffalo is a divisional rival and right now we give up the best player, we need a little something extra to put it over the top.

 

[MarlieParade]

Once the UFA season opens and we see 3rd liners sign for 7-8 million,
Reilly could look very cheap.

 

[CtrlAltDel]

So basically Chayka just shut up every insider again.

 

[Superstar]

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I think they are also out on any oscar nominations

 

[Marlow88]

Hmm, seems to indicate that Mats also agreed.

 

[1specter]

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I like how this started with CJ, Dreger and Fat Frank and just keeps growing by the day

 

[Gaberd2608]

Agreed. Honestly, its the right hedge if it doesnt work out and Matthews wants to leave next year or the year after.

We had 9 years of playoffs with:

C Matthews
RW Marner
RW Nylander
LD Rielly

If we can pull off Helenius and 4th overall for Knies. We might already be better off than the previous core that took 5 years to build.

LW McKenna
C Helenius
C Koblar
LW Cowan
D Reid/Carels
D Danford

You are much stronger on D, just as good at wing. Only real drop off is at centre. But you still have potential returns for Matthews and Nylander which should net even more young players - at least 5-6 more assets. Not to mention we look solid in goal with Hildeby and Aktayamov.

This is the way to go which can help you win now and 10+ years in the future.

If Leafs can get 4OA and Helenius for Knies I think we need to pull the trigger. Something AMAZING is going to be available at 4 and Helenius can probably step in this season.

 

[hamzarocks]

I like how this started with CJ, Dreger and Fat Frank and just keeps growing by the day

Elliot Freidman your up next

 

[seanlinden]

So no one should attack Rielly for not being a good team player after giving the team some options.

You can criticize Rielly's on-ice play. You can criticize his lack of response to Matthews getting hurt.

His personality, reputation, the way he conducts himself, is well beyond reproach.

 

[ULF_55]

Mostly after quite a bit of chatter some teams will circle back post July 1st in some attempt to get it done to improve their team(s) if they miss out on other options or free agents. Just a pure guess though.

Makes sense if they strike-out in free agency ... but by then the Leafs may be less willing to move him.


EDIT: Western teams?

Wonder if EP40 could play into a future trade in July?

 

[Fogelhund]

This is strictly if Reid is still available at 4 tomorrow.

To Toronto-
4th overall pick (Chase Reid)
Ryan McLeod
Radim Mrtka

To Buffalo-
Matthew Knies
Brandon Carlo

It's a puzzling wish list from Buffalo. You've got Reid and Mrtka... both RHD.... and yet, we just signed Raddysh to be our top RHD, and have Danford coming. If we have a need going forward, it's LHD, not RHD, and we certainly don't really need two RHD prospects. Our LHD prospects/young players is pretty non-existent, unless you could Andrae.... I like Chadfield, but he's probably not going to be more than a bottom pairing guy.

Plus this trade makes us WORSE, immediately. We aren't going to make a more, that makes us worse tomorrow, than we were today. McLeod is a decent 2C, no question there, but overall I think Knies is better.

If we are moving Knies, then it's Power you want. He'd easily be on our top pairing, good defensive LHD, would make a very good top pairing with Raddysh. Power + 4th is probably an overpay from Buffalo, but I'm not in the charity business.

It also frees you up, to pick the best player available at #4 OA, whether that is Reid, Carels, Malhotra, or Bjork. There is a good argument for each of those players.

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

If they are getting 4th overall plus more, I’m not waiting until the draft to make the deal. Do it now. Carels is just as good as Reid if not better. To get either plus more is a huge win.

Exactly. I personally like Carels more than Reid. He has a more well rounded game.

 

[NJG]

Yeah, the goalie rumors were likely bullshit given what Chayka said.

Or maybe he's letting team's know he's healthy right now and will still have a couple months of being healthy before the season starts

 

[TMLAM34]

It's a puzzling wish list from Buffalo. You've got Reid and Mrtka... both RHD.... and yet, we just signed Raddysh to be our top RHD, and have Danford coming. If we have a need going forward, it's LHD, not RHD, and we certainly don't really need two RHD prospects. Our LHD prospects/young players is pretty non-existent, unless you could Andrae.... I like Chadfield, but he's probably not going to be more than a bottom pairing guy.

Plus this trade makes us WORSE, immediately. We aren't going to make a more, that makes us worse tomorrow, than we were today. McLeod is a decent 2C, no question there, but overall I think Knies is better.

If we are moving Knies, then it's Power you want. He'd easily be on our top pairing, good defensive LHD, would make a very good top pairing with Raddysh. Power + 4th is probably an overpay from Buffalo, but I'm not in the charity business.

It also frees you up, to pick the best player available at #4 OA, whether that is Reid, Carels, Malhotra, or Bjork. There is a good argument for each of those players.

Knies + 60th Overall Selection for Power + 4th Overall Selection ?

 

[Stringer Bell]

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And of course Seravalli being by far the youngest and looking by far the oldest.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Sounds like Robertson could be on the move today (not ours).

 

[Fogelhund]

If Leafs can get 4OA and Helenius for Knies I think we need to pull the trigger. Something AMAZING is going to be available at 4 and Helenius can probably step in this season.

I really like Helenius, and I had posted multiple times that he was the best player in the Marlies vs. Rochester Series. I'm not sure he's ready to play C at the NHL level though. He's primarily been used by Buffalo as a RW... which is kind of a need anyway.

 

[Fogelhund]

Knies + 60th Overall Selection for Power + 4th Overall Selection ?

Done without hesitation from my side.

 

[cyris]

Knies + 60th Overall Selection for Power + 4th Overall Selection ?

I’m not that high on Power. I think he tops out as a good #3 Dman.
I also really don’t think Buffalo wants to trade him after they just moved Byram.

You will get much better value out of them from other players.

 

[ULF_55]

Done without hesitation from my side.

So Malhotra at 4th?

 

[phillipmike]

Exactly. I personally like Carels more than Reid. He has a more well rounded game.

Reid is great. But i think people just like him more because he is a right shot which is valuable.

But Carels might be a better fit and player for the Leafs (full stop).

Either or good but they both are top D.

You obviously make room for Reid if you take him. But we already have Raddysh locked up. Tanev for 4 more years and our next best prospect defender is Danford. If we are lucky and land Mrtka too. Thats 3-4 long term RHD. Rielly is likely gone and OEL is older and likely wont re-sign. So we only really have McCabe and Andrae on the left side. Carels would flourish.

 

[WTFMAN99]

It's a puzzling wish list from Buffalo. You've got Reid and Mrtka... both RHD.... and yet, we just signed Raddysh to be our top RHD, and have Danford coming. If we have a need going forward, it's LHD, not RHD, and we certainly don't really need two RHD prospects. Our LHD prospects/young players is pretty non-existent, unless you could Andrae.... I like Chadfield, but he's probably not going to be more than a bottom pairing guy.

Plus this trade makes us WORSE, immediately. We aren't going to make a more, that makes us worse tomorrow, than we were today. McLeod is a decent 2C, no question there, but overall I think Knies is better.

If we are moving Knies, then it's Power you want. He'd easily be on our top pairing, good defensive LHD, would make a very good top pairing with Raddysh. Power + 4th is probably an overpay from Buffalo, but I'm not in the charity business.

It also frees you up, to pick the best player available at #4 OA, whether that is Reid, Carels, Malhotra, or Bjork. There is a good argument for each of those players.

Carels...Canadian, is going to be a top pair defenseman that touches every part of your team for a long time.

 

[cyris]

So Malhotra at 4th?

I’d go with one of the Dmen. I’m not convinced Malhotra’s offensive game will translate at the NHL level.
High floor with his 2 way game but I don’t think he meets his offensive ceiling

 

[Budz]

Knies + 60th Overall Selection for Power + 4th Overall Selection ?

Puff puff pass

 

[1specter]

Personally feel like there won't be anymore major moves until UFA opens, but let's see I guess. At most I expect some pick swapping / draft position trades.