GDT: Trade and Free Agency Thread -- To trade or not to trade...

[Nooodles]

Seeing Hollands condition he definitely needed a nurse.

 

[Leafs1991]

It doesn't.

I'm amazed you don't see the difference between a millionaire and an average person's salary and then take into account what one would need to live off of or retire.

A millionaire who has made 60 million in career earnings already (I think someone used that as an example above). Ya, to me, 100% take a pay cut. Do it for the team or for the fact that you don't need any more money.

 

[nuck]

If there was going to be a Leaf, that was going to start the trend of holding back on their contract demands to help the team win Championships its Morgan Rielly.

I'm hoping Dubas is negotiating as we speak and he comes in 7-7.5. We can't afford more.

If the team fails again Dubas knows he's gone, so I'm worried it'll be another all or nothing approach, we fail and Morgan walks with us getting nothing.

Which would hurt. We shall see what happens though, wish i had a crystal ball.

Can the club actually afford $7.5? If you look at the forward group as a whole, is it sufficient to win without throwing a bit more money in? How much worse would the team be if they replaced Rielly with a Muzzin or Brodie quality player in that spot? Where there is a team friendly contract there will be a no move as well. The expiring deals next season won't save the club anything. Except for Kessel's retention they have no relief until the cap goes up.

I don't think he will own rental Rielly, more likely Mo will be signed to a deal that will be the next GMs issue to resolve.

 

[MarMarSab3]

Matthews @ 10.5
Marner @ 8.5
No Tavares

That's about 14 million to find a 2C and fill out roster properly

Hindsight I know but....

 

[hockeynorth]

Kessel plus cap bump: 8x7.2M for Mo

 

[djdev]

rielly came in 5th in the norris as a 24 year old...whats he gonna get 10.5? edm better pray to god this wasnt an aberration lol(i think it definitely was)

 

[Mickey Marner]

I'd take Pelech over Nurse at the same salary, it's nuts that Nurse makes almost four million more.

 

[ToneDog]

I'm amazed you don't see the difference between a millionaire and an average person's salary and then take into account what one would need to live off of or retire.

A millionaire who has made 60 million in career earnings already (I think someone used that as an example above). Ya, to me, 100% take a pay cut. Do it for the team or for the fact that you don't need any more money.

Have you seen what the NBA stars have been signing for ?? They turn down 40+m options to negotiate bigger deals with more term and sometimes more money.

 

[ULF_55]

rielly came in 5th in the norris as a 24 year old...whats he gonna get 10.5? edm better pray to god this wasnt an aberration lol(i think it definitely was)

When I watch Nurse and Rielly play I see two players whose greatest asset isn't defending.

Someone was talking about riding McDavid's coattail, and then you bring up Rielly's 5th. place voting based on point production. Now, points do get Norris votes, Karlsson is a prime example of that. They also ending with buyers remorse, see Karlsson.

Rather have two Hanifins' at 4.9 than 1 Rielly at 9.

 

[djdev]

When I watch Nurse and Rielly play I see two players whose greatest asset isn't defending.

Someone was talking about riding McDavid's coattail, and then you bring up Rielly's 5th. place voting based on point production. Now, points do get Norris votes, Karlsson is a prime example of that. They also ending with buyers remorse, see Karlsson.

Rather have two Hanifins' at 4.9 than 1 Rielly at 9.

ye people would rightfully laugh(myself included) if we signed rielly do this deal.
and i really like rielly.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

When I watch Nurse and Rielly play I see two players whose greatest asset isn't defending.

Someone was talking about riding McDavid's coattail, and then you bring up Rielly's 5th. place voting based on point production. Now, points do get Norris votes, Karlsson is a prime example of that. They also ending with buyers remorse, see Karlsson.

Rather have two Hanifins' at 4.9 than 1 Rielly at 9.

Karlsson was just never the same after the injury it was pretty plain to see so that was an odd contract to give out. He was something else before it though. I used to watch a ton of sens games back then (partly because of him) and he was a really special player

 

[keonsbitterness]

I'm amazed you don't see the difference between a millionaire and an average person's salary and then take into account what one would need to live off of or retire.

A millionaire who has made 60 million in career earnings already (I think someone used that as an example above). Ya, to me, 100% take a pay cut. Do it for the team or for the fact that you don't need any more money.

There is no difference to them. They compare themselves to their peers, not the average joe.

 

[Maple Leaf]

I'm amazed you don't see the difference between a millionaire and an average person's salary and then take into account what one would need to live off of or retire.

A millionaire who has made 60 million in career earnings already (I think someone used that as an example above). Ya, to me, 100% take a pay cut. Do it for the team or for the fact that you don't need any more money.

Almost every player takes as much as possible

 

[TheTotalPackage]

When I watch Nurse and Rielly play I see two players whose greatest asset isn't defending.

Someone was talking about riding McDavid's coattail, and then you bring up Rielly's 5th. place voting based on point production. Now, points do get Norris votes, Karlsson is a prime example of that. They also ending with buyers remorse, see Karlsson.

Rather have two Hanifins' at 4.9 than 1 Rielly at 9.

As big a fan I am of Rielly, no, I don’t want to see him getting 9.

But two Hanifins over one Rielly would be just gross.

 

[PromisedLand]

That Nurse contract might be the worst in the league right now. What a f***ing mess of an org.

Trade Rielly holy

Karlsson says "Hi"

 

[Disgraced Cosmonaut]

Matthews @ 10.5
Marner @ 8.5
No Tavares

That's about 14 million to find a 2C and fill out roster properly

Hindsight I know but....

Less than 5 years ago, Tavares took less money to be a Leaf. No love from one forever leafer (you) to another (John)?

 

[PromisedLand]

Seems kind of funny that the Leafs outrageous cap structure will be resolved by other teams being even more insane as time goes on even in a flat cap.

just 3 more years till Matthews/Willy hit UFA

btw... we dont really have a proven no.1 goalie either

 

[BertCorbeau]

Karlsson says "Hi"

So do Jeff Skinner, Sergei Bobrovsky, Tyler Seguin, and Jamie Benn

 

[PromisedLand]

Matthews @ 10.5
Marner @ 8.5
No Tavares

That's about 14 million to find a 2C and fill out roster properly

Hindsight I know but....

Never wanted JT; at that time the need was D-men not centers. Hockey foresight is not a thing for the current GM

 

[PromisedLand]

So do Jeff Skinner, Sergei Bobrovsky, Tyler Seguin, and Jamie Benn

Yup...

But freakin' dallas always finds a way to get it done but seguin and benn will be among the worst contracts soon enough though...

for skinner I think he keeps sabres to the cap floor

 

[meefer]

Assuming Gio leaves next year, Rielly would be perfect for a Seattle team that's lacking offensive skills on the blue line. Money certainly won't be an issue for them

Gio goes at the TDL for an amount = to his play up to that point. To a contender I'd guess at least a 1st based on his level of play last year.
Rielly to Seattle for Oleksiak or Dunn and their 1st, and whatever else you could get. I'd prefer Dunn.

 

[WTFMAN99]

The Pelech deal was solid.

The Nurse deal? Woof.

 

[Stonehands1990]

Kessel plus cap bump: 8x7.2M for Mo

Exactly this

 

[Rielly4]

If Sandin is our top PP d man we cant sign Rielly for anything more than 6.

 

[Alamo Leafer]

So Nurse is equal to or better than Dougie Hamilton. Interesting!