GDT: Trade and Free Agency Thread - Let the games begin

[Fogelhund]

Hampus Lindholm is a UFA this off-season and probably gives us 80% of what Reilly brings but should be a 6-6.5 mill signing.

Lindholm would be an interesting target, especially if a Rielly extension isn't in the cards. If we can't get a deal done, I wouldn't mind moving Rielly now, and bringing in Lindholm. I'd also ask about Comtois, as he and the Ducks seem to be headed for a divorce.

 

[Metroid]

Last year they lost their captain and leading scorer, replaced him on the top like with Komarov, and were within a goal or two of the finals, in which they probably would have beaten Montreal.

We lost out captain and couldn't win a round.

Well here it is. All we need is uncle Leo back and we can get to the finals!

 

[LeafChief]

Lindholm would be an interesting target, especially if a Rielly extension isn't in the cards. If we can't get a deal done, I wouldn't mind moving Rielly now, and bringing in Lindholm. I'd also ask about Comtois, as he and the Ducks seem to be headed for a divorce.

What's the deal with Comtois and the Ducks?

 

[Fogelhund]

What's the deal with Comtois and the Ducks?

Coach and him don't see eye to eye... He's moved Comtois to playing with Getzlaf, who is too slow to play with him, no chemistry, and it isn't working out at all...

 

[Fogelhund]

Ok, there are times that we do things for pure entertainment purposes. In no way is the following necessarily realistic, though I do think most of the trade values aren't terrible. I do think this ends up being a pretty good team... Oh, ya... Kane.. ugg... hate the person, but a good player... I'm not sure I'd even want him on the Leafs, or the Leafs would ever want him, but he'd bring some grit and fight we lack... But like I said, it's just entertainment. The Anaheim trade needs more from our side, I just wasn't sure what to send... another prospect or two probably, just insert in, a prospect/pick in there. ... but that wasn't important to our roster in this.

rades

TOR

1. Kravtsov, Vitali
2. Schneider, Braden

NYR

1. Rielly, Morgan

TOR

1. Kessel, Phil

ARI

1. Mikheyev, Ilya

TOR

1. Eklund, William
2. Hertl, Tomas
3. Kane, Evander ($3,500,000 retained)
4. 2022 1st round pick (SJS)

SJS

1. Marner, Mitchell
2. Kerfoot, Alexander

TOR

1. Lindholm, Hampus
2. Comtois, Maxime

ANA

1. Ritchie, Nick
2. Holl, Justin
3. 2022 1st round pick (SJS)

TOR

1. Strome, Dylan ($1,500,000 retained)

CHI

1. Engvall, Pierre

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$81,103,172	$0	$1,650,000	$396,828

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Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Kane, Evander $3,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 4	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250 C UFA - 3	Nylander, William $6,962,366 RW, LW UFA - 3
Comtois, Maxime $2,037,500 LW RFA - 2	Tavares, John $11,000,000 C NMC UFA - 4	Hertl, Tomas $5,625,000 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 1
Bunting, Michael $950,000 LW UFA - 2	Strome, Dylan $1,500,000 C, LW RFA - 1	Kessel, Phil $6,800,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Eklund, William $925,000 LW RFA - 3	Kämpf, David $1,500,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Spezza, Jason $750,000 C, RW UFA - 1
Kase, Ondrej $1,250,000 RW RFA - 1
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Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Lindholm, Hampus $5,205,556 LD UFA - 1	Brodie, TJ $5,000,000 RD NTC UFA - 3	Mrázek, Petr $3,800,000 G M-NTC UFA - 3
Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000 LD NTC UFA - 3	Liljegren, Timothy $863,333 RD RFA - 1	Campbell, Jack $1,650,000 G UFA - 1
Sandin, Rasmus $894,167 LD RFA - 1	Dermott, Travis $1,500,000 LD/RD RFA - 2
Schneider, Braden $925,000 RD RFA - 3

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[Dekes For Days]

Wasn't Clarkson supposed to be an elite players when we got him?

No, he wasn't.

So a not quite elite player signed for too much as a free agent, who we then couldn't get rid of. And we've done it all over again with Tavares.

No, because unlike Clarkson, Tavares is elite. Unlike Clarkson, Tavares got a reasonable UFA contract. Unlike Clarkson, we don't want to get rid of Tavares.

And in three years, when he's the same age as Komarov is now, and about as useful (in a different way), will we be able to bury him in the minors?

When Tavares is the same age that Komarov is now, his contract will be over. Tavares in 3 years will still be more useful than Komarov is now, or has been at any point in his career.

He's another player like Hyman - good while playing for the Leafs, but was always totally useless as soon as he leaves.

The perception of Hyman's playing ability hasn't really changed at all. Komarov had become useless before he left the Leafs, and has only gotten worse since then.

 

[notDatsyuk]

No, he wasn't.

No, because unlike Clarkson, Tavares is elite. Unlike Clarkson, Tavares got a reasonable UFA contract. Unlike Clarkson, we don't want to get rid of Tavares.

When Tavares is the same age that Komarov is now, his contract will be over. Tavares in 3 years will still be more useful than Komarov is now, or has been at any point in his career.

The perception of Hyman's playing ability hasn't really changed at all. Komarov had become useless before he left the Leafs, and has only gotten worse since then.

We were told by management that Clarkson was elite when they signed him. I didn't believe it, but that's what we were told.

If Tavares was elite, which is debatable, he is still overpaid for what he brings. My point wasn't that we want to trade him, although some of think we should, but that we can't.

When Tavares is the same age as Komarov, he'll be entering the last year of his contract, with a cap hit if $11M, and, which was my point, we can't send him to the Marlies.

If you don't think that the perception of Hyman hasn't changed since he signed with Edmonton, you haven't been paying attention. And, of course, Komarov still isn't useless, and your saying so just confirms my statement.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Ok, there are times that we do things for pure entertainment purposes. In no way is the following necessarily realistic, though I do think most of the trade values aren't terrible. I do think this ends up being a pretty good team... Oh, ya... Kane.. ugg... hate the person, but a good player... I'm not sure I'd even want him on the Leafs, or the Leafs would ever want him, but he'd bring some grit and fight we lack... But like I said, it's just entertainment. The Anaheim trade needs more from our side, I just wasn't sure what to send... another prospect or two probably... but that wasn't important to our roster in this.

rades

TOR

1. Kravtsov, Vitali
2. Schneider, Braden

NYR

1. Rielly, Morgan

TOR

1. Kessel, Phil

ARI

1. Mikheyev, Ilya

TOR

1. Eklund, William
2. Hertl, Tomas
3. Kane, Evander ($3,500,000 retained)
4. 2022 1st round pick (SJS)

SJS

1. Marner, Mitchell
2. Kerfoot, Alexander

TOR

1. Lindholm, Hampus
2. Comtois, Maxime

ANA

1. Ritchie, Nick
2. Holl, Justin
3. 2022 1st round pick (SJS)

TOR

1. Strome, Dylan ($1,500,000 retained)

CHI

1. Engvall, Pierre

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$81,103,172	$0	$1,650,000	$396,828

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Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Kane, Evander $3,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 4	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250 C UFA - 3	Nylander, William $6,962,366 RW, LW UFA - 3
Comtois, Maxime $2,037,500 LW RFA - 2	Tavares, John $11,000,000 C NMC UFA - 4	Hertl, Tomas $5,625,000 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 1
Bunting, Michael $950,000 LW UFA - 2	Strome, Dylan $1,500,000 C, LW RFA - 1	Kessel, Phil $6,800,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Eklund, William $925,000 LW RFA - 3	Kämpf, David $1,500,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Spezza, Jason $750,000 C, RW UFA - 1
Kase, Ondrej $1,250,000 RW RFA - 1
Roster created at CapFriendly.com | Follow on Twitter @CapFriendly

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Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Lindholm, Hampus $5,205,556 LD UFA - 1	Brodie, TJ $5,000,000 RD NTC UFA - 3	Mrázek, Petr $3,800,000 G M-NTC UFA - 3
Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000 LD NTC UFA - 3	Liljegren, Timothy $863,333 RD RFA - 1	Campbell, Jack $1,650,000 G UFA - 1
Sandin, Rasmus $894,167 LD RFA - 1	Dermott, Travis $1,500,000 LD/RD RFA - 2
Schneider, Braden $925,000 RD RFA - 3

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I don't see l Kravtsov in your new lineup or retraded, so it looks like you traded Reilly for a 7th D. Am I missing something?

Kessel for Mikheyev is interesting, but that's an awfully big contract for a 3W, and I think his best days are over.

Remember that Kane is suspended for 21 games and hasn't had his vaccine. Personally I don't want that problem child associated with the Leafs.

 

[Dekes For Days]

We were told by management that Clarkson was elite when they signed him.

Well he wasn't, and source?

If Tavares was elite, which is debatable, he is still overpaid for what he brings.

Tavares is elite. He was given a reasonable UFA contract, and he's a key piece of this team. We don't want to trade him.

When Tavares is the same age as Komarov, he'll be entering the last year of his contract

That is not true. At age 34 and 10 months, Tavares' current contract will be completed. He's also a much, much, much better player than Komarov, and there's no reason to think he won't continue to be a highly effective player throughout his contract.

which was my point, we can't send him to the Marlies.

There's no reason why we'd want to send him to the Marlies.

If you don't think that the perception of Hyman hasn't changed since he signed with Edmonton, you haven't been paying attention.

I've been paying attention. Nothing has changed.

And, of course, Komarov still isn't useless

Komarov is useless, and has been for a while.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Ok, there are times that we do things for pure entertainment purposes. In no way is the following necessarily realistic, though I do think most of the trade values aren't terrible. I do think this ends up being a pretty good team... Oh, ya... Kane.. ugg... hate the person, but a good player... I'm not sure I'd even want him on the Leafs, or the Leafs would ever want him, but he'd bring some grit and fight we lack... But like I said, it's just entertainment. The Anaheim trade needs more from our side, I just wasn't sure what to send... another prospect or two probably... but that wasn't important to our roster in this.

rades

TOR

1. Kravtsov, Vitali
2. Schneider, Braden

NYR

1. Rielly, Morgan

TOR

1. Kessel, Phil

ARI

1. Mikheyev, Ilya

TOR

1. Eklund, William
2. Hertl, Tomas
3. Kane, Evander ($3,500,000 retained)
4. 2022 1st round pick (SJS)

SJS

1. Marner, Mitchell
2. Kerfoot, Alexander

TOR

1. Lindholm, Hampus
2. Comtois, Maxime

ANA

1. Ritchie, Nick
2. Holl, Justin
3. 2022 1st round pick (SJS)

TOR

1. Strome, Dylan ($1,500,000 retained)

CHI

1. Engvall, Pierre

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$81,103,172	$0	$1,650,000	$396,828

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Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Kane, Evander $3,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 4	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250 C UFA - 3	Nylander, William $6,962,366 RW, LW UFA - 3
Comtois, Maxime $2,037,500 LW RFA - 2	Tavares, John $11,000,000 C NMC UFA - 4	Hertl, Tomas $5,625,000 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 1
Bunting, Michael $950,000 LW UFA - 2	Strome, Dylan $1,500,000 C, LW RFA - 1	Kessel, Phil $6,800,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Eklund, William $925,000 LW RFA - 3	Kämpf, David $1,500,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Spezza, Jason $750,000 C, RW UFA - 1
Kase, Ondrej $1,250,000 RW RFA - 1
Roster created at CapFriendly.com | Follow on Twitter @CapFriendly

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Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Lindholm, Hampus $5,205,556 LD UFA - 1	Brodie, TJ $5,000,000 RD NTC UFA - 3	Mrázek, Petr $3,800,000 G M-NTC UFA - 3
Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000 LD NTC UFA - 3	Liljegren, Timothy $863,333 RD RFA - 1	Campbell, Jack $1,650,000 G UFA - 1
Sandin, Rasmus $894,167 LD RFA - 1	Dermott, Travis $1,500,000 LD/RD RFA - 2
Schneider, Braden $925,000 RD RFA - 3

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I know its not realistic but that is one hell of a team.

 

[Fogelhund]

I don't see l Kravtsov in your new lineup or retraded, so it looks like you traded Reilly for a 7th D. Am I missing something?

Kessel for Mikheyev is interesting, but that's an awfully big contract for a 3W, and I think his best days are over.

Remember that Kane is suspended for 21 games and hasn't had his vaccine. Personally I don't want that problem child associated with the Leafs.

Kravtsov is on Marlies to start. Comes up next year after Phil is gone. Phil’s contract value is irrelevant given he goes to UFA and we fit under the cap with this roster.

Agree with much of what’s said about Kane. It’s one of those things you have a chat with the guy first. (With permission of course.). These are the expectations, are you in, or out? (Including the vax) You make a decision based on the conversation. His play on the ice is absolutely something we could use. His actions to date off the ice, nope. Even if you drop him out of the equation, it’s a pretty good lineup.

 

[Knies iT]

I wish Malgin was around to be honest but he isn't. He'd probably give us some nice speedy winger depth, something we lost with Robertson injured long-term.

I do think he's similar to Petan in terms of impact/skill level but Barret-Boulet is 2 years or so younger.

The main difference is Barre-Boulet doesn't cost assets like Marchment/Lindholm. More often than not undersized players with mediocre foot speed don't work out, which is why they're usually a dime a dozen and you can find them for free.

The most intriguing part about ABB is that he's cost controlled for 3 years at league minimum. He's similar to Petan but is younger, can play centre and has a faster release, with slightly better skating (not by much). Always seems to torch the Marlies. Decent gamble.

I'd easily put a claim in on Barre-Boulet and waive Amadio, but there's very little chance he gets passed the waiver fiends in MTL. If he makes it to them, likely means Brooks is back on the wire.

 

[Kurtz]

We were told by management that Clarkson was elite when they signed him. I didn't believe it, but that's what we were told.

If Tavares was elite, which is debatable, he is still overpaid for what he brings. My point wasn't that we want to trade him, although some of think we should, but that we can't.

When Tavares is the same age as Komarov, he'll be entering the last year of his contract, with a cap hit if $11M, and, which was my point, we can't send him to the Marlies.

If you don't think that the perception of Hyman hasn't changed since he signed with Edmonton, you haven't been paying attention. And, of course, Komarov still isn't useless, and your saying so just confirms my statement.

No one called Clarkson elite - you're misremembering. He was averaging 0.32 ppg on Jersey. Conversely, JT was averaging 0.93 ppg on the Island. The latter is indeed elite, the former posted 3rd/4th liner stats. We got him for his grit, which we did need at the time.

Not sure what you're referring to about perception on Hyman - it hasn't changed, everyone knows what he is. We Leaf fans are just happy that Bunting seems to be a worthy replacement for one fifth the cost.

Komarov has just cleared waivers, so every team in the league thinks that he's just about useless at this stage of his career at his cap hit.

 

[Kiwi]

Kravtsov is on Marlies to start. Comes up next year after Phil is gone. Phil’s contract value is irrelevant given he goes to UFA and we fit under the cap with this roster.

Agree with much of what’s said about Kane. It’s one of those things you have a chat with the guy first. (With permission of course.). These are the expectations, are you in, or out? (Including the vax) You make a decision based on the conversation. His play on the ice is absolutely something we could use. His actions to date off the ice, nope. Even if you drop him out of the equation, it’s a pretty good lineup.

No matter what Kane says I don't think you can bring him in

The media would go absolutely insane and we'd never hear the end of it

The main difference is Barre-Boulet doesn't cost assets like Marchment/Lindholm. More often than not undersized players with mediocre foot speed don't work out, which is why they're usually a dime a dozen and you can find them for free.

The most intriguing part about ABB is that he's cost controlled for 3 years at league minimum. He's similar to Petan but is younger, can play centre and has a faster release, with slightly better skating (not by much). Always seems to torch the Marlies. Decent gamble.

I'd easily put a claim in on Barre-Boulet and waive Amadio, but there's very little chance he gets passed the waiver fiends in MTL. If he makes it to them, likely means Brooks is back on the wire.

I'd love to get brooks back, he works well with Spezza whenever he gets a chance

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[Avilaj07]

Well, for one, he's not vaccinated and I believe unvaccinated players can't play in Canada.

And that's his choice which is perfectly fine. Choosing not to be vaccinated isn't against the law or makes him any less of a player. Unfortunately with the government making it impossible to live without being vaccinated, well that's a whole different issue.

 

[Ashdown2]

the kraken put ABB on waivers.
I think its a no brainer to get him because we need the 4th lie talent to play with spezza.

but i highly doubt he clears. If anything the lightning might retake him to replace kuch

 

[kb]

Well here it is. All we need is uncle Leo back and we can get to the finals!

New mascot?

 

[LeafChief]

the kraken put ABB on waivers.
I think its a no brainer to get him because we need the 4th lie talent to play with spezza.

but i highly doubt he clears. If anything the lightning might retake him to replace kuch

I would imagine the hope is that Ho-Sang plays his way into a position where he will be that offensive spark on the 4th line with Spezza while Simmonds bangs bodies.

 

[Ashdown2]

I would imagine the hope is that Ho-Sang plays his way into a position where he will be that offensive spark on the 4th line with Spezza while Simmonds bangs bodies.

he cant right now .. hes on a marlies contract

 

[LeafChief]

he cant right now .. hes on a marlies contract

I didn't say right now. I said the hope is that he plays his way into that spot. As in, in the future.

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

I wonder what the ask would be for Hertl or Forsberg at 50% the deadline assuming both teams are out if it. I imagine it would have to include Robertson or Amirov.

If we moved Kerfoot/Holl/Ritchie either in those deals of for assets prior you could add both guys and still have room to trade for a replacement RD.

A top 6 of:

Hertl-Matthews-Marner
Forsberg-Tavares-Nylander

would be absolutely ridiculous..

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[Dreakmur]

TOR

1. Lindholm, Hampus
2. Comtois, Maxime

ANA

1. Ritchie, Nick
2. Holl, Justin
3. 2022 1st round pick (SJS)

I think I'd give that package for either one of Lindholm or Comtois. Don't think it's close to enough for both.

 

[dubplatepressure]

I wonder what the ask would be for Hertl or Forsberg at 50% the deadline assuming both teams are out if it. I imagine it would have to include Robertson or Amirov.

If we moved Kerfoot/Holl/Ritchie either in those deals of for assets prior you could add both guys and still have room to trade for a replacement RD.

A top 6 of:

Hertl-Matthews-Marner
Forsberg-Tavares-Nylander

would be absolutely ridiculous..

I don't think you'll see MM on this team after this season. The cap allocation just doesn't make sense, as it precludes us from playing in the upper end of the depth market where you need production from when your stars are underperforming. We need to keep Amirov. Robertson - who knows now that he's suffered back to back significant injuries.

I also think that given we went without a 1st last year and that this is going to be a deep draft, that we do not venture into deals that force us to part with our 1st this year. We should be getting one back for Marner, and 2x 1st rounders will go a long way to enabling us to remain competitive through this decade as AM34 and Willy get older.