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Would you like to see Marner traded for Eichel

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Eichel and Matthews would be Crosby - Malkin level one, two punch. Put Tavares on one of their wings, Nylander on the other. Could solve all our problems. So long as our doctors are OK with it of course.
 
LeafsOHLRangers98 said:
Kerfoot/Ritchie/Holl combine for $8M. Insert Liljegren find two guys who can spark something up front.

Make a change there first. If it doesn't turn around you have to start looking bigger (Marner).
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At what point do you stop stripping the middle of the line up and realize you need good players to support your great ones?
It’s time to make a move at the top of the line up.
 
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Dont see how Marner for Eichel is appealing to the Sabres, unless Eichels value is really f***ing low and they figure they could flip Marner for more.
 
Nylanderthal said:
At what point do you stop stripping the middle of the line up and realize you need good players to support your great ones?
It’s time to make a move at the top of the line up.
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That's what I was saying though. If you can clear that $8M it would give you up to $6M to add a true top 6 player like Forsberg or Hertl or Gaudreau even without retention with Liljegren and a forward jumping into the lineup near league min.

Trading Marner for worse players doesn't make this group better.
 
Jozay said:
Dont see how Marner for Eichel is appealing to the Sabres, unless Eichels value is really f***ing low and they figure they could flip Marner for more.
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Hypothetically if the Sabres are trading Eichel today, you are not getting a better player than Marner in return on the current market. Sure you can get 1st rdrs and prospects and hope they become the next Marner or Eichel but a smart GM would take the certainty.
 
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nobody said:
Hypothetically if the Sabres are trading Eichel today, you are not getting a better player than Marner in return on the current market. Sure you can get 1st rdrs and prospects and hope they become the next Marner or Eichel but a smart GM would take the certainty.
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Sabres probably wont be competitive until Marners contract is up, I dont see how he'd be sought after by them unless they believe they could flip him for more than Eichel.
 
LeafsOHLRangers98 said:
That's what I was saying though. If you can clear that $8M it would give you up to $6M to add a true top 6 player like Forsberg or Hertl or Gaudreau even without retention with Liljegren and a forward jumping into the lineup near league min.

Trading Marner for worse players doesn't make this group better.
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Forsberg needs a new deal, and that just forces even more ELC/bottom barrel players into the lineup.
I’d move Marner for Forsberg+ re-up FF 8x8 and use the $3m savings to get another guy in who’s not a 1m guy
 
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With Marner's cap hit and current concerns I think we'd see something in the Kessel --> Nash spectrum, hopefully more towards Nash.
 
supermann_98 said:
I'm a huge fan of Reilly but you're right. If the team continues to stink he just HAS to be traded at the deadline. You can't continue to just let valuable players just walk out the door for nothing
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Amen. This is a hard line to take, but if we're not a legit contender by deadline I 100% agree. Trade him for what you can get for him and take a stab at him as a free agent. Sell Marner to the highest bidder, take your picks/prospects/returns and move forward.
 
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It's probably time for a retool talk. I would imagine everyone would be on the table except for probably Matthews, Nylander and a couple net positive players and top young players.

We'll see how things play out in the next month or so. Seems impossible but the Leafs could very well win 10 in a row... I have no freaking idea anymore.

At least we're sucking early in the season as opposed to late in the season.
 
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Who would want rielly as a rental?
Calgary? La if they are in a playoff spot? Pitt?
 
SprDaVE said:
It's probably time for a retool talk. I would imagine everyone would be on the table except for probably Matthews, Nylander and a couple net positive players and top young players.

We'll see how things play out in the next month or so. Seems impossible but the Leafs could very well win 10 in a row... I have no freaking idea anymore.

At least we're sucking early in the season as opposed to late in the season.
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We need a retool so badly. One question I have is how would we stickhandle the Auston Matthews situation. We could certainly blow up and reload over the next 1.5 years but does that put him on a timetable to exit Leaf Land, or would it be reasonable to expect him to re-sign and give us a long runway? If it's the former... that's depressing. If it's the latter, let's get to work.
 
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If Mitch Marner were to be traded, and he should be, and should've been traded this off-season, the return should be about maximizing the cap space, to allow several offensive additions.

Our defense has been, in my opinion, the strongest thing about this team since the start of last season. Ideally, it is kept together, with Liljegren replacing Holl in the top 6. Between Holl to Liljegren, roughly 1.2M in cap space, cap growth of 1M, and Kessel's 1.2M off the books, that should cover any Rielly extension. (including Rielly's current 5M, that would dedicate 8.4M). Liljegren and Sandin should get similar deals as Dermott did after his ELC ran out.

By trading Mitch Marner, we can ideally do the following;
- Secure some future assets, some combination of pick(s) and/or prospect(s)
- With additional cap space gained, sign Jack Campbell to an extension
- With the additional cap space gained, use it to improve the offensive depth - though, guys like Kampf, Spezza, Engvall, even Simmonds haven't really been the issue.

Some targets, I've largely thought would make sense; Calgary [they seem ready to make a major change soon] as well as LA [will likely be looking to start adding talent to that roster].

I won't begin to guess what a trade would look like.
 
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How about a trade centered around Marner for Hyman. Leafs will probably need to add some picks and such to sweeten the pot for the Oilers.
 
Cor said:
If Mitch Marner were to be traded, and he should be, and should've been traded this off-season, the return should be about maximizing the cap space, to allow several offensive additions.

Our defense has been, in my opinion, the strongest thing about this team since the start of last season. Ideally, it is kept together, with Liljegren replacing Holl in the top 6. Between Holl to Liljegren, roughly 1.2M in cap space, cap growth of 1M, and Kessel's 1.2M off the books, that should cover any Rielly extension. (including Rielly's current 5M, that would dedicate 8.4M). Liljegren and Sandin should get similar deals as Dermott did after his ELC ran out.

By trading Mitch Marner, we can ideally do the following;
- Secure some future assets, some combination of pick(s) and/or prospect(s)
- With additional cap space gained, sign Jack Campbell to an extension
- With the additional cap space gained, use it to improve the offensive depth - though, guys like Kampf, Spezza, Engvall, even Simmonds haven't really been the issue.

Some targets, I've largely thought would make sense; Calgary [they seem ready to make a major change soon] as well as LA [will likely be looking to start adding talent to that roster].

I won't begin to guess what a trade would look like.
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That's a fair assessment.

I do think this team is in dire need of a "sideways" move to the top of the roster. I don't think I can handle another mid/low level lineup shake up. Marner is probably the easy target due to his recent performances but he's easily the least likable contract on this roster by far.
 
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