Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2021/22 - Post Deadline

[Gallagbi]

I can understand the wishful thinking and all that, but there's no way the Devils are trading their #2 pick in a trade to get Nylander.

Nylander is definitely worth a lot in a trade scenario for sure, but top 3 picks are rarely ever traded and the Devils are nowhere near the level of team that should be trading those kind of picks.

With Hamilton on the roster and a few #1 top picks I could see it, but I doubt they'd get Blackwood in the deal.

 

[SprDaVE]

With Hamilton on the roster and a few #1 top picks I could see it, but I doubt they'd get Blackwood in the deal.

I don't think that matters. They'll be there for a long time. They won't turn bad or old as of next year.

 

[BertCorbeau]

I can understand the wishful thinking and all that, but there's no way the Devils are trading their #2 pick in a trade to get Nylander. Top 3 picks are rarely ever traded and the Devils are nowhere near the level of team that should be trading those kind of picks.

Nylander is worth A LOT and he's a great player, but it needs to make sense. I just don't understand the thought process that the Devils are going to do something like that.

Well they want a legit top 6 scorer up front. But they did want one with control, and there’s the risk. Still Nylander showing that he can be a PPG player could be a big enticing piece with Hughes or Hischier down the middle.

Definitely thing there would be intrerest

 

[Gallagbi]

I don't think that matters. They'll be there for a long time. They won't turn bad or old as of next year.

I think it's more wanting to change phases than the window closing


Don't get me wrong, I'm not betting on it and I don't think either team would present it, but it makes sense IMO

 

[SprDaVE]

Well they want a legit top 6 scorer up front. But they did want one with control, and there’s the risk. Still Nylander showing that he can be a PPG player could be a big enticing piece with Hughes or Hischier down the middle.

Definitely thing there would be intrerest

They can get a top 6 forward without having to give up their #2 pick. They have other picks and players they can probably do it to get it done, as well as free agency.

I think my point is that they have a lot of holes and Nylander certainly is a great player, giving up a #2 overall pick is not a move I see happening. They are never traded for a reason. I legit can't think of the last time a top 2-3 pick was traded for a player... It might have been the Leafs and Kessel (but that was a whole year before).

The 2 teams in the top 12 I see potentially doing it for the right move and Nylander could be it --- Columbus (#6 and #12 picks, could dangle one for a big upgrade) and Anaheim (#10 and #22 picks, a team trending upwards, could swing for the fences with this one).

 

[Enniskillen]

Kerfoot and Holl are the most “worthy” candidates for changing the scenery. Kerfoot single-handedly cost game 6. Not sure Holl would be enticing to any other team even with makeup on.

 

[Duke16]

Kerfoot and Holl are the most “worthy” candidates for changing the scenery. Kerfoot single-handedly cost game 6. Not sure Holl would be enticing to any other team even with makeup on.

I guarantee Holl returns a 3rd+ or value that equates to that.

There was lots of talk that he was higher regarded than Dermott league-wide.

Leafs fans like to pull micro-events out of their ass to slander the guy, but the reality is that he's has strong 2nd pair usage results to his name, can play heavy PK minutes, is tall, right-handed, average to good analytically, and makes just $2M. Even on the most basic counting stat level, he's good for 20+ PTS.

The only reason the Leafs are even moving him is to make more permanent roles for the young Swedes and because he has real value to make it worth their while.

 

[Brobust]

I can understand the wishful thinking and all that, but there's no way the Devils are trading their #2 pick in a trade to get Nylander. Top 3 picks are rarely ever traded and the Devils are nowhere near the level of team that should be trading those kind of picks.

Nylander is worth A LOT and he's a great player, but it needs to make sense. I just don't understand the thought process that the Devils are going to do something like that.

I saw a devils fan propose Blackwood, Severson(retained), 2023 1st round pick for Nylander

That has Matt Duchene jackpot potential.

 

[LaPlante94]

Just trade Kerfoot for Puljujarvi.

 

[BertCorbeau]

I saw a devils fan propose Blackwood, Severson(retained), 2023 1st round pick for Nylander

That has Matt Duchene jackpot potential.

Ohhhh their 2023 pick?

Interesting…

 

[SprDaVE]

I saw a devils fan propose Blackwood, Severson(retained), 2023 1st round pick for Nylander

That has Matt Duchene jackpot potential.

That is something I could see the Devils doing if they are really serious about getting better this season.

I'm not sure the pieces are good enough for Nylander but that's at least the start of something that makes a lot more sense.

 

[ER89]

Wood and Blackwood are gambles, but then there’s also the #2OA pick.

that’s what does it for me personally.

We sure that pick is going to be better than William? Or help contribute immediately? I just don't see why we would trade the dude who steps his game up for the playoffs and delivers in the same fashion or better in some cases than our 11m players. Surely there's a way to keep that guy who has a great deal at this point.

This whole notion that we won't trade Mitch or Matty and can't trade jt so we have to trade William is so silly. Because none of these deals are slam dunks. But you know who is a slam dunk in the playoffs? Willy. (This part isnt directed at you bert but just saying I'm general)

 

[showtime8]

Ohhhh their 2023 pick?

Interesting…

I wonder if the Devils would have consideration to move Mercer.

Not sure if he's untouchable.

 

[Avilaj07]

We sure that pick is going to be better than William? Or help contribute immediately? I just don't see why we would trade the dude who steps his game up for the playoffs and delivers in the same fashion or better in some cases than our 11m players. Surely there's a way to keep that guy who has a great deal at this point.

This whole notion that we won't trade Mitch or Matty and can't trade jt so we have to trade William is so silly. Because none of these deals are slam dunks. But you know who is a slam dunk in the playoffs? Willy. (This part isnt directed at you bert but just saying I'm general)

No one is saying Willy isn't a great player, but unfortunately you just doesn't seem to mesh with Tavares and having Willy on the 3rd line is a waste. Ideally I'd put Willy back with Matthews and Marner back with Tavares but you know, you can't hurt their feelings so you can't separate them. Moving Willy for the 2nd overall pick allows you to draft Cooley who in a couple of years should be great to replace Tavares as the 2nd line center, as well as sign or trade for a top 6 winger who fits our need for a Tavares winger.

 

[ULF_55]

Team needs some beef that can skate.

I don't care if they can score into an empty net.

What they don't need is another couple fleet of foot pilots, they need some grunts for the trenches.

 

[ER89]

No one is saying Willy isn't a great player, but unfortunately you just doesn't seem to mesh with Tavares and having Willy on the 3rd line is a waste. Ideally I'd put Willy back with Matthews and Marner back with Tavares but you know, you can't hurt their feelings so you can't separate them. Moving Willy for the 2nd overall pick allows you to draft Cooley who in a couple of years should be great to replace Tavares as the 2nd line center, as well as sign or trade for a top 6 winger who fits our need for a Tavares winger.

Look, I get it. And now that you've explained it thusly, fair enough. But why not consider trading Mitch first? Better value plus more money that can be used to re balance the team. I'm not sure letting go William does anything remotely positive for us unless it's for a true core player that immediately contributes.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Ohhhh their 2023 pick?

Interesting…

I do not think this team needs Severson though. He is fine as a stop gap, but I would rather give Liljegren room to make mistakes and grow in the spot which Severson would effectively take away from him.

There is major risk with that 2023 pick as well, even if it is unprotected... And we have to figure out a good way to get immediate help.

Nylander is also a lot more valuable than Duchene was at the time.

I'd want Mercer in that deal somewhere.

 

[Torontonian]

Don’t think the Leafs are interested in losing fire power on the roster for players you can sign in UFA and the mystery box in the 2nd overall pick.

If Toronto is going to trade Nylander it’s going to be for a similar skill level player to change the makeup of the team.

 

[showtime8]

No one is saying Willy isn't a great player, but unfortunately you just doesn't seem to mesh with Tavares and having Willy on the 3rd line is a waste. Ideally I'd put Willy back with Matthews and Marner back with Tavares but you know, you can't hurt their feelings so you can't separate them. Moving Willy for the 2nd overall pick allows you to draft Cooley who in a couple of years should be great to replace Tavares as the 2nd line center, as well as sign or trade for a top 6 winger who fits our need for a Tavares winger.

I don't necessarily think Willy on the 3rd line is a waste. I definitely think he should be on the 2nd line and you can find opportunity against lesser competition if he's there. But for the longest time, the Leafs management have done a poor job at creating a true identity on the 3rd line. It's not really a shutdown line. It's not really an energy line. It's kinda just a mismatch of random guys in and out to find some momentum.

I also don't think it would be a great idea to trade Willy just because he doesn't work with Tavares. If anything, you should have more of a positive future outlook with Nylander in the organization than Johnny.

That being said, if you can find good value for him and it allows you to restructure your roster and salary cap, without significantly decreasing the talent, then it's worth taking a look.

 

[Fogelhund]

This took a lot of dancing, and we all know it would never happen. Sure, Kane is a risk... but, it's all fantasy anyway.

I can't find a way to add Philippe Myers, unless I created a player... but he could be a 7th D, assuming Philly buys him out, and we sign him for under $1 mil.

Kallgren as a backup isn't ideal.. but then find someone else for a low contract...

Arizona's 1st round pick Cooley.

Anyway, it's just for fun...

Trades​

1.

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TOR​

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1. Roy, Matt

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LAK​

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1. Muzzin, Jake

2.

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TOR​

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1. Blackwood, Mackenzie
2. Mcleod, Michael
3. 2022 1st round pick (NJD)

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NJD​

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1. Nylander, William
2. Mrázek, Petr

3.

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TOR​

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1. Hellebuyck, Connor

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WPG​

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1. Blackwood, Mackenzie
2. Kerfoot, Alexander
3. 2022 1st round pick (TOR)

4.

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TOR​

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1. 2022 3rd round pick (PHI)

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PHI​

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1. Holl, Justin

5.

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TOR​

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1. Crouse, Lawson [RFA Rights]
2. Chychrun, Jakob ($1,000,000 retained)

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ARI​

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1. Abramov, Mikhail
2. Mikheyev, Ilya
3. Sandin, Rasmus
4. Niemelä, Topi
5. 2024 2nd round pick (TOR)

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$1,500,000
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RFA - 2[/TD]
[TD]Kämpf, David
$1,500,000
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UFA - 1[/TD]
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$900,000
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M-NTC
UFA - 1[/TD]
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$750,000
RW
RFA - 1[/TD]
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UFA - 2[/TD]
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[TH]Right Defense[/TH]
[TH]Goaltender[/TH]
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$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 8[/TD]
[TD]Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 2[/TD]
[TD]Hellebuyck, Connor
$6,166,666
G
UFA - 2[/TD]
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[TD]Chychrun, Jakob
$3,600,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3[/TD]

[TD]Roy, Matt
$3,150,000
RD
UFA - 2[/TD]
[TD]Källgren, Erik
$750,000
G
RFA - 1[/TD]
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[TD]Giordano, Mark
$800,000
LD
UFA - 2[/TD]

[TD]Liljegren, Timothy
$2,000,000

RD
RF[/TD]
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[ULF_55]

Clayton Keller
Jacob Chychrun
Lawson Crouse
for
marner
Kerfoot

 

[Avilaj07]

To Toronto-
Connor Murphy
Kirby Dach
Dominik Kubalik

To Chicago-
William Nylander
Rasmus Sandin

 

[Stephen]

Ohhhh their 2023 pick?

Interesting…

I don't think their 2023 first rounder is going to be as high a pick as you'd imagine with Nylander and Hughes teaming up and Hamilton probably getting back to normal.

 

[Dragao6]

I would trade our entire roster for McDavid

 

[Enniskillen]

I guarantee Holl returns a 3rd+ or value that equates to that.

There was lots of talk that he was higher regarded than Dermott league-wide.

Leafs fans like to pull micro-events out of their ass to slander the guy, but the reality is that he's has strong 2nd pair usage results to his name, can play heavy PK minutes, is tall, right-handed, average to good analytically, and makes just $2M. Even on the most basic counting stat level, he's good for 20+ PTS.

The only reason the Leafs are even moving him is to make more permanent roles for the young Swedes and because he has real value to make it worth their while.

I would still prefer McCann over your darling Holl, who could have been easily substituted. Still baffled by that decision.