Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2021/22 - Post Deadline

[SprDaVE]

This is why you deal him now. He can still become an elite NHL player. With each call up he gets it just looks less and less likely.

Every player can be traded. You talk like he's had a million chances. He hasn't.

 

[Americanadian]

He's a PPG player in the AHL at 20.

You people have no patience and are impossible to please unless a player is an instant star. Even that doesn't seem like much to you guys, cause you want to dump Nylander for trash like Miles Wood.

Every player can be traded. There's no need to trade him for the sake of it just because you think he's a bust waiting.

Again, you talk like he's had a million chances. He hasn't.

I proposed a swap of needs for needs. Dallas has a surplus of young RS C - the Leafs have 0. Dallas has no top 6 LW prospects coming through the system - the Leafs have 2 (maybe 3 with Amirov). Trading him for any of those names is not "dumping" the player. Any time you can swap a winger for a center with similar production I think you should do it.

 

[SprDaVE]

I proposed a swap of needs for needs. Dallas has a surplus of young RS C - the Leafs have 0. Dallas has no top 6 LW prospects coming through the system - the Leafs have 2 (maybe 3 with Amirov). Trading him for any of those names is not "dumping" the player. Any time you can swap a winger for a center with similar production I think you should do it.

"It's time to move on" is what was said about Robertson like he was a journeyman prospect struggling.

If Robertson is ever traded anytime soon, it'll be involved in a big time Leafs upgrade of some sort, not a swap out of prospects.

 

[Americanadian]

"It's time to move on" is what was said about Robertson like he was a journeyman prospect struggling.

If Robertson is ever traded anytime soon, it'll be involved in a big time Leafs upgrade of some sort, not a swap out of prospects.

That is your interpretation.

Moving on doesn't mean dumping. It could mean moving him as part of a package. This is a trade board. I proposed moving him for a prospect in a position of need.

 

[SprDaVE]

Man it's been crazy.

Florida finally getting past the 1st round...Colorado finally getting past the 2nd round....same old Leafs.

Barkov and MacKinnon are 3 years older than Matthews. Took them awhile. Almost like it isn't over anytime soon eh?

Not sure I'd be proud of the Panthers finally moving on from the first round only to get swept.

 

[Brobust]

I proposed a swap of needs for needs. Dallas has a surplus of young RS C - the Leafs have 0. Dallas has no top 6 LW prospects coming through the system - the Leafs have 2 (maybe 3 with Amirov). Trading him for any of those names is not "dumping" the player. Any time you can swap a winger for a center with similar production I think you should do it.

Stankoven hasn't made it to the AHL yet.

So he's less proven, further away from the NHL, and since he's a 5'8 prospect you don't even know if he's an NHL C.

The key to making the team better isn't to take an L on every trade you make.

By the way, Robertson got less than 100 minutes. About 1/2 was with John Tavares, and his on-ice numbers were quite good with him. And we want to make decisions on 97 minutes of NHL play.

 

[BertCorbeau]

I’d kick tires on Kane this offseason to see the price.. wouldn’t overpay but he would bring a lot of the on ice elements the Leafs are looking for.

Still not sure I’d sign him but you have to ask the price. Oilers may not have the ability to re-sign with the cap situation and other needs.

At this point in his career I wonder if he’s trying to get as much term as he can. At his age a “show me” deal probably doesn’t seem appealing.

Maybe a 3 year contract, $4 mill AAV?

 

[SprDaVE]

I’d kick tires on Kane this offseason to see the price.. wouldn’t overpay but he would bring a lot of the on ice elements the Leafs are looking for.

Still not sure I’d sign him but you have to ask the price. Oilers may not have the ability to re-sign with the cap situation and other needs.

At this point in his career I wonder if he’s trying to get as much term as he can. At his age a “show me” deal probably doesn’t seem appealing.

Maybe a 3 year contract, $4 mill AAV?

Apparently he wants to stay out West. I also wouldn't touch Evander Kane with a ten foot pole with any sort of term personally.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Apparently he wants to stay out West. I also wouldn't touch Evander Kane with a ten foot pole with any sort of term personally.

Yeah I’m iffy on it too, but it’s worthy of a conversation

 

[Americanadian]

Stankoven hasn't made it to the AHL yet.

So he's less proven, further away from the NHL, and since he's a 5'8 prospect you don't even know if he's an NHL C.

The key to making the team better isn't to take an L on every trade you make.

By the way, Robertson got less than 100 minutes. About 1/2 was with John Tavares, and his on-ice numbers were quite good with him. And we want to make decisions on 97 minutes of NHL play.

Stankoven is one of the 4 prospects proposed. It's a valid argument stating that he probably can't play C at the NHL level. The other 3 probably will.

Again. It's a proposed trade where we give up a surplus for a need. Robertson did put up decent numbers in 52 minutes with Tavares. His other 45 5v5 minutes this year were bad. He's a very good player with elite production who might break out one soon at the NHL level. Personally I don't see it and by the looks of the comments on this board I am not alone.

 

[613Leafer]

I’d kick tires on Kane this offseason to see the price.. wouldn’t overpay but he would bring a lot of the on ice elements the Leafs are looking for.

Still not sure I’d sign him but you have to ask the price. Oilers may not have the ability to re-sign with the cap situation and other needs.

At this point in his career I wonder if he’s trying to get as much term as he can. At his age a “show me” deal probably doesn’t seem appealing.

Maybe a 3 year contract, $4 mill AAV?

With his personal debt issues, you've gotta think Kane's #1 priority this offseason will be getting the most money possible, even if it means signing on a bottom feeder. I don't see us in the race for him at all.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Barkov and MacKinnon are 3 years older than Matthews. Took them awhile. Almost like it isn't over anytime soon eh?

Not sure I'd be proud of the Panthers finally moving on from the first round only to get swept.

Barkov took a while.

MacKinnon's 6th year they finally got out of round 1.

We're 0-6 in 1st round with Matthews...hoping things change soon.

 

[SprDaVE]

From LeBruns latest Athletic piece. I'd still probably move on and change things up there but I think I'd be ok with a 3.5M cap hit for a few years.

Ilya Mikheyev
The 27-year-old UFA winger’s agent, Dan Milstein, indicated to me Monday that he’s planning on talking to Leafs management within a couple of weeks.

Milstein says the Leafs are a “world-class organization’’ who have treated Mikheyev very well, so they’re open to having the conversation about potentially re-signing.

Of course, things are always tight under the cap for the Leafs, and after putting up a career-high 21 goals in just 53 games this past season, Mikheyev has clearly earned a raise on the $1.645 million he earned this year. At the very least, he’s probably looking at $3.5 million a year on the open market, and I just don’t think the Leafs can do that given their cap situation.

Let’s see what comes of that conversation between both sides, but I find it hard to envision the Leafs being able to come up with a contract that works.

Also Siegel (Leafs writer) and Power (Hawks writer) from the Athletic also are speculating that a Mrazek trade to the Hawks makes a lot of sense. Hawks are rebuilding, Leafs need cap space. There's probably a good match there.

 

[stickty111]

Great to see we are close to writing off a 20 year old. I don't get this fanbase. Guaranteed they would rip the team for trading him if he did well somewhere else.

"It's time to move on" is what was said about Robertson like he was a journeyman prospect struggling.

If Robertson is ever traded anytime soon, it'll be involved in a big time Leafs upgrade of some sort, not a swap out of prospects.

I saw same things said about Kadri as a 20 year old after his first stint with the Leafs.

 

[WTFMAN99]

From LeBruns latest Athletic piece. I'd still probably move on and change things up there but I think I'd be ok with a 3.5M cap hit for a few years.




Also Siegel (Leafs writer) and Power (Hawks writer) from the Athletic also are speculating that a Mrazek trade to the Hawks makes a lot of sense. Hawks are rebuilding, Leafs need cap space. There's probably a good match there.

Keep in mind 3 years of playoff series, Mikhayev has failed to score a goal on a goalie. I would pass.

 

[SprDaVE]

Keep in mind 3 years of playoff series, Mikhayev has failed to score a goal on a goalie. I would pass.

I'm not one of his biggest fans because his hockey IQ is pretty poor. But I do think he's a top notch PKer and forechecker. He'll be a big upgrade to a team.

 

[Brobust]

Keep in mind 3 years of playoff series, Mikhayev has failed to score a goal on a goalie. I would pass.

Hyman's playoff record with the leafs and with the Oilers.

The deeper you go, the more players step up.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

Watching the playoffs, at some point Matty needs to take over a playoff series. Like a man possessed. He just hasn't been able to do that yet.

Agreed. He was pretty good that series but JT stepped up more in the series clinchers. He is paid to be the best in the league practically and has yet to take over a series in like 6 seasons in a row. Love the player, need more from him in the playoffs.

 

[Americanadian]

I'm not one of his biggest fans because his hockey IQ is pretty poor. But I do think he's a top notch PKer and forechecker. He'll be a big upgrade to a team.

You put it perfectly. I wouldn't want to invest in a low IQ player like that.

Not sure where he goes but I'd rather the Leafs invest that 3.5M in a Nick Paul or 2.5M on an Evan Rodrigues.

 

[Amadeus]

Any interest in Paul Stastny as a third line C?

 

[SoftDumpNtheCorner88]

We need more grit.

I'm hoping we get that player in Knies.

 

[WTFMAN99]

I'm not one of his biggest fans because his hockey IQ is pretty poor. But I do think he's a top notch PKer and forechecker. He'll be a big upgrade to a team.

He's all those things but I don't think he'll be worth it for us.

Hyman's playoff record with the leafs and with the Oilers.

The deeper you go, the more players step up.

I think Hyman has been injured in most of our playoff series with the exception of CBJ right?

ACL Boston,
Knee in Montreal

Never felt like we got him at 100%

 

[ToneDog]

Any interest in Paul Stastny as a third line C?

At what price?

 

[Stephen]

"It's time to move on" is what was said about Robertson like he was a journeyman prospect struggling.

If Robertson is ever traded anytime soon, it'll be involved in a big time Leafs upgrade of some sort, not a swap out of prospects.

I’m not sure what my final position on Robertson is, but I almost feel like my first instinct is to involve him in a big time Leaf upgrade as opposed to trying to insert him into the lineup. The play style just kinda leaves a little bit skeptical sometimes.

 

[Brobust]

From LeBruns latest Athletic piece. I'd still probably move on and change things up there but I think I'd be ok with a 3.5M cap hit for a few years.




Also Siegel (Leafs writer) and Power (Hawks writer) from the Athletic also are speculating that a Mrazek trade to the Hawks makes a lot of sense. Hawks are rebuilding, Leafs need cap space. There's probably a good match there.

They haven't even won a round and already they're going to do the Teuvo Teravainen trade. I expect the asking price will be Nick Robertson or the 1st.