Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2021/22 Part XI - Deadline Looming

[fahad203]

I suggested Comtois but Appleton is a good one as well.

Isn't Camtois like half broken ? He has had a lot injuries this year including hand

 

[OVO16]

Im fine with Giordano....but like others have said I'm not giving up a 1st.

Sam Carrick is another low key 4th line forward i think would be a great get. There are reports that the leafs want to improve their 4th line

 

[Leaf Rocket]

It doesn't feel like the Leafs are involved here... Just a gut feeling. We would have been linked by now.

my mcbain dream is ruined...

 

[cyris]

That’s what I meant by higher up, my mistake no they couldn’t of kept him he packed up and went home demanding a trade.
I wouldnt want to know what the story around here would be if Dubas held firm screwing over a vet like marleau. Not to mention the impact it might’ve had on attracting other vets.

And Marleau had a 35+ contract. Even if Dubas tried to hold firm there was no cap relief coming. That is part of what made him so expensive to trade. Carolina had to buy him out but still had to have his whole cap hit after.

 

[SprDaVE]

Isn't Camtois like half broken ? He has had a lot injuries this year including hand

Yep... but I think he's got potential to get back to how he played last season.

 

[fahad203]

Im fine with Giordano....but like others have said I'm not giving up a 1st.

Sam Carrick is another low key 4th line forward i think would be a great get. There are reports that the leafs want to improve their 4th line

No way we give up first for Gio. Not even 2nd
He doesn't bring anything that we need to give up a first or 2nd

 

[WTFMAN99]

Reading a lot of those points last night, I expect the 4th line to come in completely different next year.

No doubt at this point 2 assists in last 23GP for Simmonds and only 1-2 fights isn't really a factor for us. No real fighting in the playoffs either, so basically 100% useless.

 

[dubplatepressure]

No way we give up first for Gio. Not even 2nd
He doesn't bring anything that we need to give up a first or 2nd

a second is well worth it IMO

 

[Dekes For Days]

These stats no longer hold their predictive power in the playoffs. That's a fact.

That's not a fact. You haven't provided any evidence of that.

What information are you gaining?

You're gaining information about a team's quality.

Yeah, obviously the 6th or 8th best ranked xGF team in regular season won the cup.

For the record, since xGF% started being tracked, the best xGF% team has won more cups than the best team in the standings.

Which one you choosing as a predictor?

Which one are you? You still haven't said.

 

[Leaf Rocket]

If that means the price is cheaper sure..

 

[LeafSteel]

my mcbain dream is ruined...

Dredge has no credibility with me. Of course he plugs the Habs being the most interested.

Key thing here is he won’t be traded unless he’s interested in extending wherever he goes.

If he’s a Toronto boy this will be where he wants to go, and he would have an immediate opportunity to plug into the lineup on a top team. Can’t say the same for th sHabs……

 

[123offtheglass]

It feels like the Leafs will add a D and then move Dermott for maybe an equivalent forward or maybe a pick. This would scratch both the D and the F they want to add.

There are reports that the leafs want to improve their 4th line

Clutterbuck, Bastian, Michael McLeod, Appleton, Motte all decent options I think; Motte's asking price obviously too high though.

 

[Leaf Rocket]

Its funny sometimes looking at the skill that dont translate to the big leagues...benson definitely is one of those cases.

 

[Leaf Rocket]

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He Czechs off a few boxes.

 

[Leaf Rocket]

Dredge has no credibility with me. Of course he plugs the Habs being the most interested.

Key thing here is he won’t be traded unless he’s interested in extending wherever he goes.

If he’s a Toronto boy this will be where he wants to go, and he would have an immediate opportunity to plug into the lineup on a top team. Can’t say the same for th sHabs……

I hope so...a free wallet with good money is nice to have.

Edit: Honestly I dont think many of the reporters really have an inside edge on whats going on anymore with the leafs. Good stuff tbh

 

[Mickey Marner]

Clutterbuck, Bastian, Michael McLeod, Appleton, Motte all decent options I think; Motte's asking price obviously too high though.

I like sticking to the RFA route. Appleton, Bastian & McLeod are all decent targets.

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

The market might simply not work for us this year. All of our attractive pieces are things we don't want to trade. Are our 2nd tier prospects plus Dermott/Holl/Kerfoot going to get us anywhere?

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

 

[Martin Skoula]

If Marleau didn't report to camp he'd be suspended. He could retire, or play. He's a big boy who made a decision, no need to capitulate to his demands if it hurts the team. Mikheyev wanted a trade and Dubas said no, life goes on. Plus, Marleau was willing to be away from his family in Toronto for the playoff bubble anyhow.

If Marleau retired we'd be on the hook for his entire cap hit.

 

[Mickey Marner]

If Marleau retired we'd be on the hook for his entire cap hit.

Yes, and we'd have to trade away Kapanen and Johnsson a year earlier to accommodate that cap hit. But he wouldn't have retired because he wanted the games played record and he was willing to be away from his family in the Toronto playoff bubble later that season anyhow.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Yes, and we'd have to trade away Kapanen and Johnsson a year earlier to accommodate that cap hit. But he wouldn't have retired because he wanted the games played record and he was willing to be away from his family in the Toronto playoff bubble later that season anyhow.

The other problem was that his signing bonus was scheduled after the deadline to buy him out so we couldn't even eat that up front cost to lessen the blow.

 

[Nylanderthal]

The other problem was that his signing bonus was scheduled after the deadline to buy him out so we couldn't even eat that up front cost to lessen the blow.

Sweet Lou really did leave a grenade in the room when he left.

 

[Mickey Marner]

The other problem was that his signing bonus was scheduled after the deadline to buy him out so we couldn't even eat that up front cost to lessen the blow.

Yes, terrible contract that we never should've signed. But Babcock loved him, so we gave him a ridiculous deal.

 

[LeafGrief]

Giordano:

Finally seeing the rumour mill come around to a player I think would be a great fit for the Leafs. but, just like Foligno he is going to cost way too much, and is more likely over the hill, rather than having one great playoff run left in him. If we trade for him, I expect I will be happy with the player and frustrated with the price.

 

[Nylanderthal]

Yes, and we'd have to trade away Kapanen and Johnsson a year earlier to accommodate that cap hit. But he wouldn't have retired because he wanted the games played record and he was willing to be away from his family in the Toronto playoff bubble later that season anyhow.

So if he wouldn’t retire but wouldn’t play here we be forced to trade him then? He made it clear he wasn’t playing for us after the season and the team had no excuse or reason to waste 6.25 in cap space in a year they were planning on going for it.