GDT: Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2021/22 PART VII

[Fogelhund]

Num	Time	%	Players	GF	GA	+/-	SF	SA	SF%	CF	CA	CF%
1	346:31	51.3	ZDENO CHARA - NOAH DOBSON	15	10	5	161	192	45.6	290	351	45.2
2	137:44	20.4	ZDENO CHARA - RYAN PULOCK	6	7	-1	63	79	44.4	116	152	43.3
3	57:23	8.5	ZDENO CHARA - ANDY GREENE	3	2	1	29	32	47.5	51	62	45.1
4	55:47	8.3	ZDENO CHARA - SEBASTIAN AHO	0	2	-2	24	28	46.2	45	56	44.6
5	42:41	6.3	ZDENO CHARA - SCOTT MAYFIELD	1	2	-1	14	23	37.8	29	37	43.9
6	20:56	3.1	ZDENO CHARA - ADAM PELECH	0	0	0	8	12	40.0	13	25	34.2

[TBODY] [/TBODY]
[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Dobson's SF% and CF% are better with just about every other D on the team... except Mayfield, who is Dobson's worst partner.

Chara's worst numbers are with... Mayfield...

Greene's worst numbers have been with Salo and Mayfield.

I'm not sold on Chara OR Mayfield. In my limited viewings, I've just seen Chara being skated around at will.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Chara is god awful and anyone that has watched him in the past season or so will tell you that, whether they are an Islander or neutral NHL fan.

I think I'd rather trade a 1st round pick for Chiarot than to acquire Chara for anything else.

Nah I would rather have the corpse of Chara for next to nothing than pay a 1st for Chiarot. At least you can bench Chara when he sucks without any obligation due to paying so much in a trade.

I would love for one of our rivals to blow their assets on Chiarot. Fortunately, it seems like Dubas is not even interested so that is good.

 

[Nylanderthal]

I believe we will have to give up any kind of sweetner when I see it.

But sure, Herzog's rights would be fine I guess.

+1 with a quick search I noticed philly at 49 & Montreal at 48 SPC contracts, with both teams expected to be sellers at the deadline you think they might want to clear up a couple contract spots.
I still think the move is for a collection of depth or dregs that another team might not have on their cap but still have to pay out in real dollars (buried 1 way deals nearing $1m) a couple of those for Ritchie who they can play in the line up and rebuild value to flip later might make sense to some teams.
Maybe Ritchie + Dermott to philly for Braun + 3 or 4 of Sandin Seeler Clendenning Brassard (any expiring 1 way depth piece) I’m sure a pick would be required, or an SPC exempt prospect from our pool that isn’t the big 4? Either way it’s certainly not going to cost prime assets to move off Nick.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Num	Time	%	Players	GF	GA	+/-	SF	SA	SF%	CF	CA	CF%
1	346:31	51.3	ZDENO CHARA - NOAH DOBSON	15	10	5	161	192	45.6	290	351	45.2
2	137:44	20.4	ZDENO CHARA - RYAN PULOCK	6	7	-1	63	79	44.4	116	152	43.3
3	57:23	8.5	ZDENO CHARA - ANDY GREENE	3	2	1	29	32	47.5	51	62	45.1
4	55:47	8.3	ZDENO CHARA - SEBASTIAN AHO	0	2	-2	24	28	46.2	45	56	44.6
5	42:41	6.3	ZDENO CHARA - SCOTT MAYFIELD	1	2	-1	14	23	37.8	29	37	43.9
6	20:56	3.1	ZDENO CHARA - ADAM PELECH	0	0	0	8	12	40.0	13	25	34.2

[TBODY] [/TBODY]
[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Dobson's SF% and CF% are better with just about every other D on the team... except Mayfield, who is Dobson's worst partner.

Chara's worst numbers are with... Mayfield...

Greene's worst numbers have been with Salo and Mayfield.

I'm not sold on Chara OR Mayfield. In my limited viewings, I've just seen Chara being skated around at will.

Mayfield is fine, but people expecting him to be any better than (or even as good as) Holl will likely be disappointed. Especially when he goes from a system that fits him perfectly to a system like ours.

 

[LeafChief]

Chara ain't what he used to be but if the cost is cheap I'd take him in a heartbeat. He's old and slow sure but he's a f***ing animal and we've seen that in the playoffs it wouldn't hurt to have a guy or two that people are afraid of.

 

[4thline]

Chara's value is purely based on his complete willingness to abuse game management and his veteran stature to get called for 1 penalty per game while committing 1 per shift.

It would be an interesting experiment. Would they start calling him if he was a Leaf? If so, we'd have to get the even up calls, so would we be better off with more games decided by PP/PK?

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Nah I would rather have the corpse of Chara for next to nothing than pay a 1st for Chiarot. At least you can bench Chara when he sucks without any obligation due to paying so much in a trade.

I would love for one of our rivals to blow their assets on Chiarot. Fortunately, it seems like Dubas is not even interested so that is good.

I sure hope he isn't, but Chris Johnston said he inquired about him and were interested in him back when he was a free agent. Although, Dreger said the Leafs were aggressively pursuing him, which probably means that the Leafs are completely disinterested

 

[Jozay]

Too much smoke around Chiarot and the Leafs. And we already know the Leafs will trade a first rounder for a shitty rental.

Not looking great

 

[Fogelhund]

Chara ain't what he used to be but if the cost is cheap I'd take him in a heartbeat. He's old and slow sure but he's a f***ing animal and we've seen that in the playoffs it wouldn't hurt to have a guy or two that people are afraid of.

Schenn is more useful... Rather have him.

 

[Fogelhund]

Too much smoke around Chiarot and the Leafs. And we already know the Leafs will trade a first rounder for a shitty rental.

Not looking great

Chiarot has a NTC-10 team list. T.O. is on the 10 team no trade list.

 

[Jozay]

Chiarot has a NTC-10 team list. T.O. is on the 10 team no trade list.

Thank God

 

[SeaOfBlue]

+1 with a quick search I noticed philly at 49 & Montreal at 48 SPC contracts, with both teams expected to be sellers at the deadline you think they might want to clear up a couple contract spots.
I still think the move is for a collection of depth or dregs that another team might not have on their cap but still have to pay out in real dollars (buried 1 way deals nearing $1m) a couple of those for Ritchie who they can play in the line up and rebuild value to flip later might make sense to some teams.
Maybe Ritchie + Dermott to philly for Braun + 3 or 4 of Sandin Seeler Clendenning Brassard (any expiring 1 way depth piece) I’m sure a pick would be required, or an SPC exempt prospect from our pool that isn’t the big 4? Either way it’s certainly not going to cost prime assets to move off Nick.

I think it would be 3-for-1.

 

[LeafChief]

Schenn is more useful... Rather have him.

Agreed. I'd rather Schenn as well.

 

[Stephen]

Schenn is more useful... Rather have him.

If it’s affordable I wouldn’t necessarily mind getting Chara and Schenn so you have a LHD and RHD to mix and match with Sandin and Liljegren as an option for your 6th, 7th, 8th options. Schenn had some success babysitting Quinn Hughes a few years ago and I think Liljegren could also benefit from some one on one tutoring beside a Hall or Famer.

 

[ACC1224]

Chiarot has a NTC-10 team list. T.O. is on the 10 team no trade list.

That just means they would need his consent to trade him here.

 

[Stephen]

Chiarot has a NTC-10 team list. T.O. is on the 10 team no trade list.

The guy from Hamilton who is already on a Canadian team won’t come here? Screw it then we’ll keep our picks.

 

[Fogelhund]

That just means they would need his consent to trade him here.

Which wouldn't be granted.

 

[ACC1224]

Which wouldn't be granted.

Maybe it would, maybe it wouldn't.
You have some inside knowledge or guessing?

 

[Fogelhund]

Maybe it would, maybe it wouldn't.
You have some inside knowledge or guessing?

I would send you a message, but your privacy settings...

 

[ACC1224]

I would send you a message, but your privacy settings...

Privacy settings? Didn't know I had any what do I need to do?

 

[Mickey Marner]

Chara has 750k in performance bonuses that would roll over to next year if we can't fit them in. The bonuses are likely X amount of games played, make playoffs & make/win cup finals. I doubt his impact is worth paying bonuses for.

 

[Fogelhund]

Privacy settings? Didn't know I had any what do I need to do?

Start a Conversation, private message to me.

 

[D00bis]

Haven't thought about it much besides rentals:

Giroux, FF09, or Hertl. All three play driving top-line F that really move the needle.

Non-rentals though? JT Miller, DeBrusk, Kravtsov are all guys I'd probably take a swing on before Crouse. I've heard lots of issues with Miller's personality though, so I'm hesitant.

I’d have some interest in debrusk for sure don’t think we have the cap space nor would want to give up the assets for the other guys

 

[zeke]

Chiarot has a NTC-10 team list. T.O. is on the 10 team no trade list.

Chiarot is also on Dubas' no-trade list.

 

[Sypher04]

I’d have some interest in debrusk for sure don’t think we have the cap space nor would want to give up the assets for the other guys

I’m not really overly interested in Debrusk personally, but either way it’s most likely a moot point. The odds Boston is making a deadline deal with any of Florida, Toronto or Tampa are insanely low