GDT: Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2021/22 PART IX

[SprDaVE]

returning the favour for Marchment

They do owe the Leafs one for that.

Leafs ripped them with Hyman already before that.

 

[Shooter2x]

Dollars to donuts Dubas would like a mulligan on that one…..

Really didn’t understand the need for it, and I hated Dubas’ small tweener forward stage where he brought in Malgin and Petan……

Was just googling the latest Leafs news and this showed up the same time I read your comment
Toronto Maple Leafs: There Was No Reason To Trade Mason Marchment

If anyone bothers you about your Marchment opinion just paste this link.

 

[ACC1224]

Leafs ripped them with Hyman already before that.

True enough, all square

 

[dubplatepressure]

Was just googling the latest Leafs news and this showed up the same time I read your comment
Toronto Maple Leafs: There Was No Reason To Trade Mason Marchment

If anyone bothers you about your Marchment opinion just paste this link.

Wasn't he waiver eligible? I seem to recall we would have waived him anyway and lost him. Could be wrong though.

 

[ULF_55]

They will likely have this figured out before the deadline. Two concussions in a month is something that should be taken seriously. No point in rushing him back. If they have no concrete timeline by the deadline, the prudent thing to do would be to sit him out for the rest of the regular season.

Like you said, no one batted an eye with the Lightning did it with Kucherov. Vegas is doing it with Stone now too. The Leafs should be taking advantage of every opportunity they can and if they don't, that's a failure on managements part.

Yeah, I'm not sure they really have a handle on concussions yet.

If you really care about your family perhaps you give it a few months before even considering a return.
If he didn't really feel right coming back last time it might be time to pull the plug.
His priority should be the next 50 years, not 50 days.

 

[ULF_55]

From 32 ...

15.

Calgary’s played seven of its 10 rescheduled games from the COVID-19 disruption. The Flames are 7-0. They’ve got another on March 7, with the last ones on April 18-19.
The Erik Gudbranson/Nikita Zadorov defensive pair is an amazing story, proof that team-building is not just “what a player can do for us,” but also “what plans we have for you.” Is there another defensive pair like this? They’ve got a role and understand it. Last Saturday, they were zipping around the puck like the Globetrotters.

Sounds like a coaching situation.

Round hole round peg.
Barrie for example round hole square peg.

 

[LeafChief]

Wasn't he waiver eligible? I seem to recall we would have waived him anyway and lost him. Could be wrong though.

In hindsight such a bad trade for the Leafs. Would be really nice to have him in our lineup right now. God damn.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

32 Thoughts: As sports world restricts Russia, fallout in hockey still unfolding

There goes everyone's arguments from the past week lol. Toronto front office are very squeaky clean and don't do shady stuff it semes

 

[dubplatepressure]

In hindsight such a bad trade for the Leafs. Would be really nice to have him in our lineup right now. God damn.

Definitely. Same with Verhaughe. But I guess my point is that we would've lost Marchment for nothing anyway, as much as that sucks.

 

[hockeywiz542]

DeBrusk surges up latest Trade Bait board - TSN.ca

The annual TSN Trade Bait lists are more art than science.

They are weekly trade stock markets, charting perceived player asset value, reflecting player prominence and likelihood of being dealt.

With less than three weeks to go before the March 21, 3 p.m. ET NHL trade deadline, we have seen big movement at the top of the Trade Bait list.

Chicago netminder Marc-Andre Fleury, a three-time Stanley Cup champion and the NHL’s 2020-21 Vezina Trophy winner, has dropped from No. 3 to 13 to 27 over our three lists because there have been no indications he wants a trade.

Meanwhile, San Jose centre Tomas Hertl, widely regarded as the best impending UFA potentially available on the trade market, has dropped from No. 4 last week to No. 20 this week because there are signs of optimism in contract talks between the Sharks and Hertl.

The yin to their yang is Boston left winger Jake DeBrusk who has moved from No. 23 to 6. DeBrusk, newly aligned with Patrice Bergeron and Brad Marchand, had nine points in five games (7-2-9) before being shut out by Anaheim on Tuesday.

DeBrusk’s agent, Rick Valette, told TSN’s Pierre Lebrun that he has permission from the Bruins to hold exploratory contract talks with potential Boston trade partners. DeBrusk is a pending restricted free agent and will command a $4.4-million qualifying offer this summer.

 

[kb]

Definitely. Same with Verhaughe. But I guess my point is that we would've lost Marchment for nothing anyway, as much as that sucks.

Yup, those pesky waivers.

 

[Warden of the North]

In hindsight such a bad trade for the Leafs. Would be really nice to have him in our lineup right now. God damn.

It happens to every team. All the time.

We brought in Bunting for a song. It evens out if your management is smart

 

[SprDaVE]

I can't imagine how much crap the Leafs org would get if they weren't selling anyone and everyone they could while sitting in the bottom 10 of the NHL.

I've never seen a team so content with being mediocre as much as the San Jose Sharks have over the last few years.

 

[ToneDog]

DeBrusk surges up latest Trade Bait board - TSN.ca

The annual TSN Trade Bait lists are more art than science.

They are weekly trade stock markets, charting perceived player asset value, reflecting player prominence and likelihood of being dealt.

With less than three weeks to go before the March 21, 3 p.m. ET NHL trade deadline, we have seen big movement at the top of the Trade Bait list.

Chicago netminder Marc-Andre Fleury, a three-time Stanley Cup champion and the NHL’s 2020-21 Vezina Trophy winner, has dropped from No. 3 to 13 to 27 over our three lists because there have been no indications he wants a trade.

Meanwhile, San Jose centre Tomas Hertl, widely regarded as the best impending UFA potentially available on the trade market, has dropped from No. 4 last week to No. 20 this week because there are signs of optimism in contract talks between the Sharks and Hertl.

The yin to their yang is Boston left winger Jake DeBrusk who has moved from No. 23 to 6. DeBrusk, newly aligned with Patrice Bergeron and Brad Marchand, had nine points in five games (7-2-9) before being shut out by Anaheim on Tuesday.

DeBrusk’s agent, Rick Valette, told TSN’s Pierre Lebrun that he has permission from the Bruins to hold exploratory contract talks with potential Boston trade partners. DeBrusk is a pending restricted free agent and will command a $4.4-million qualifying offer this summer.

Somebody is going to be buying high on DeBrusk now that he putting up numbers.

 

[Warden of the North]

I'd be really interested in Debrusk, but I suspect a third team would have to broker the deal as Bruins not likely to move him here.

 

[LeafChief]

I'd be really interested in Debrusk, but I suspect a third team would have to broker the deal as Bruins not likely to move him here.

His qualifying offer is likely what's scaring teams away right now.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Wasn't he waiver eligible? I seem to recall we would have waived him anyway and lost him. Could be wrong though.

Sounds about right

 

[Mickey Marner]

DeBrusk's 4.41 qualifying offer gives me pause. He could re-sign for less, but he has a lot of leverage between the QO and arbitration.

 

[Ashdown2]

DeBrusk's 4.41 qualifying offer gives me pause. He could re-sign for less, but he has a lot of leverage between the QO and arbitration.

im not sure why ... teams should treat him like a UFA rental and not resign him in the summer. some desperate team will pay him in the offseason.


im personnally jumping on the carson soucy bandwagon .... .
I wonder if a kerfoot for sourcy + swap could be made , and then the leafs could go find a better top 6 option as a replacement.

 

[BertCorbeau]

I can't imagine how much crap the Leafs org would get if they weren't selling anyone and everyone they could while sitting in the bottom 10 of the NHL.

I've never seen a team so content with being mediocre as much as the San Jose Sharks have over the last few years.

Well they have some bad un-moveable contracts but they really are letting some assets waste value.

The last notable players they sold were 2 years ago and that was Barclay Goodrow and Brandon Dillon.. and I guess Marleau if you think that's of note at this point

They also got some assets back in the summer of 2019 for Justin Braun .. but that was offset with what they paid to land, checks notes, Gustav Nyquist, at the trade deadline in the previous season where they finished last in the division.

You have to go back to 2018 to see a big move by them when they paid they price to get Karlsson.

I mean at this point that core is cooked and a rebuild is needed. But Wilson is hanging on. They could have gotten a nice haul for Hertl last year.

But they have $34.5 million of their cap tied up the Couture, Burns, Karlsson, and Vlasic contracts .. Karlsson and Couture have like 5 years left. Vlasic has 4, and Burns has 3.

 

[BertCorbeau]

DeBrusk's 4.41 qualifying offer gives me pause. He could re-sign for less, but he has a lot of leverage between the QO and arbitration.

I wouldn't buy into his hot streak like they're selling at that QO .. And clearly Boston holds a high price because he would have been traded already otherwise.

 

[Buds17]

im not sure why ... teams should treat him like a UFA rental and not resign him in the summer. some desperate team will pay him in the offseason.


im personnally jumping on the carson soucy bandwagon .... .
I wonder if a kerfoot for sourcy + swap could be made , and then the leafs could go find a better top 6 option as a replacement.

I'd be surprised if the asking price in trade from the Bruins is that of a rental though considering they are currently a playoff team. It's a tough trade to make for the other team as well if DeBrusk is going to be difficult to re-up due to the Q.O.

 

[Peace Frog]

This is something a buddy of mine and I thought of quite a while ago and it looks like someone else has brought it up again:

I’ll give you the very basic Coles Notes version (for those who remember them, lol)

Laine is a pending RFA. Why not trade for him with 50% retained and then flip him in the summer and recoup some of what we paid for him? Heck, we could trade him back to Columbus if they are planning on re-signing him.

Even if our goaltending is only average in the playoffs, we might still get by. Lol. With our top six that includes Laine, I’d have a real hard time believing that our offence would dry up. And let’s not even talk about what our PP would be like. Yikes!

Interested to hear everyone’s thoughts

 

[Fogelhund]

This is something a buddy of mine and I thought of quite a while ago and it looks like someone else has brought it up again:

I’ll give you the very basic Coles Notes version (for those who remember them, lol)

Laine is a pending RFA. Why not trade for him with 50% retained and then flip him in the summer and recoup some of what we paid for him? Heck, we could trade him back to Columbus if they are planning on re-signing him.

Even if our goaltending is only average in the playoffs, we might still get by. Lol. With our top six that includes Laine, I’d have a real hard time believing that our offence would dry up. And let’s not even talk about what our PP would be like. Yikes!

Interested to hear everyone’s thoughts

Laine has an amazing shot.

Otherwise he isn't very good at team hockey.

 

[trellaine201]

My friend whose a huge Habs fan and listens to their radio says strong rumours of Chariot to TO for The first and Robertson and Montreal retains 50% of the salary.

I hope this isn’t true.