GDT: Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2021/22 PART IV
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The Podium
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Lindholm might be a decent target
A couple years old now:
Solid 2nd pair defensive D, not overly physical but can replace the heavy defensive minutes.
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DraftSchmaft
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Just the ones here about the decline of Muzzin. Add Holl being our no.4 and Sandin coming off a playoffs where the Habs made him look silly... and the posts about Chychrun not being a need become even more comical.
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Fogelhund
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Sure, but you aren't finding an adequate replacement for near what Kerfoot makes, and as said, neither Robertson, nor Amirov are ready to step into the lineup, in any capacity.
Stephen
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I’d be all over that. If the market is depressed due to a flat cap and you can get him at a reasonable price that would be a great add. Maybe a happy medium between a smarter Brodie type guy and a big classic two way defenseman like Muzzin. Didn’t quite hit the career projections expected of him but he would be a terrific LHD replacement for Muzz.
Fogelhund
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Bold move.. but I'd make Kane an offer at league min right now.... I get all the reasons to hate it, but it's a rental with no real cost, and the guy is motivated to earn a contract, and way back to the league... at worst, you can bury the guy. He's a very good hockey player, even if he's not the best human (or close). I see where there is risk, but you aren't going to get a better player, without giving up significant assets.
The Podium
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I’d do 2 years personally at 1 mill
If he smartens up we have a solid top 6 power forward under contract for another season. If not we send him home and bury his 1 mill in the minors.
Fogelhund
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I'd be down with that too, but I suspect he wouldn't do two years... Either way, it's a completely no risk move for us.
Of all the management groups I would expect to take a PR nightmare like Kane on, Dubas and Co would be among the last. However they did take on Keefe with his history so maybe I'm dead wrong
Avilaj07
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Milstein has said Kane will sign a 1 year contract for the remainder of the season with someone. What better way to prove yourself then in the hockey mecca playing with Matthews and Marner. I'm sorry but this is a gamble you take if you're Dubas. Sign Kane and make the trade for Chychrun and you're definitely on the way to some playoff success.
Fogelhund
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You sell it as trying to rehabilitate someone, rehab their career. You try and improve your hockey team... you front run the story with PR. Yes, he's had some issues, and we are going to work with him on those, and we also think he can help our hockey team. But, the contract would be low enough, you could send him to the Marlies, whether he reports or not, and the money is off the books. You lay out the opportunity, playing with Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Tavares... and with Kane, it's an all-star cast up front. You lay down the ground rules.... one error, you are out.
I'd like to win, and while I appreciate the PR issues, I think it can be handled... you do Kane, and upgrade the D... and it's a pretty hard team to stop.
uncleben
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Two year at $1M? No thanks.
The guy can't help but be a distraction.
I'm all for redemption projects and success stories and people growing and changing, but if he doesn't work out and we bury him in the minors, he's demonstrated he's just going to be a distraction and problem in the minors.
Granted, the Barracuda did seem to get along with him in the dressing room, but still, I have little interest in him if he's going to be spreading and breaking COVID protocols, bringing even more of a media circus into town, and causing drama.
God no to Kane. Keep him well away from the players and the dressing room. He will piss away any chance he gets. Absolutely shocking some people are suggesting him as a target
The Podium
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Bury his contract in the minors but send him home if he’s a distraction. Teams aren’t contractually obligated to play players so he doesn’t have to report to the minors.
I don't know how reliable Michael Traikos is but he says that the Leafs are interested in signing Evander Kane
LeafChief
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I completely understand all of the reasons that the Leafs shouldn't be in on Kane. With that said, we should be looking at every avenue to improve and get over the hump, especially considering what happened last season in the playoffs.
It would really suck to see Kane go to Tampa/Florida for 1 year/1 million.
I would take the risk and throw him into our top 6. At some point we have to do something different.
It would really suck to see Kane go to Tampa/Florida for 1 year/1 million.
I would take the risk and throw him into our top 6. At some point we have to do something different.
LeafChief
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Michael Traikos is an absolute moron but in this case I hope he's correct. Unlikely though.
ACC1224
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So, you're looking for another first round exit so you can feel that embarrassment again? Defending this team to all your buddies who cheer for other teams. There are some fixes.
-Kane. Sure, he has some personality issues. But he is a helluva player with much needed toughness. He can be gotten for half his salary right now as most other teams will not be interested. That gives the Leafs with 2 solid lines. If Kane is not available then Dubas has to look for a similar player.
Currently, the Leafs have virtually no cap space so a roster player or 2 will have to go.
Kerfoot has a 3.5 million cap hit. That is expensive for a 3rd rounder. Trade for picks and/or a prospect. There is the salary you need to sign Kane. Kerfoot is a good player which means a decent return.
Holl and Engvall are 2 other players that provide very little to the team and combined eat up 3.25 in cap. Problem with Holl is he shows signs he can be a serviceable D man. The other problem is, he can be lost in his own end and coughs up pucks in the worst possible places....like in front of his own net. He does not use his size effectively. The team gets better without him. Its an "addition through subtraction" thing. Lilly is a better D man, that uses his size effectively and is a much better offensively motivated player. Engvall is a turnover machine that tries to do to much...almost every shift. Have you ever seen a player skate so much and get little done? Another addition through subtraction player.
Another player that eats a ton of cap is Mrazek. 3.8 million to be exact. By moving him, Engvall and Holl, we are looking at around 7 million in cap space to sign or trade for a very good D man. There are some choices out there. A Chiarot, Chychrun, and possibly Evan Bouchard. Bouchard is interesting because he is showing signs of developing into a solid top 4 pairing at a very good cap hit. He is 6'3 every night and plays like it. Edmonton and Toronto would be excellent trade partners here. Mrazek would get you Bouchard and a 2nd round pick. Possibly a third but you get the point and Edmonton is desperate for a good goalie.
That gives Toronto a bit of a contacts out problem. But with the taxi squad implementation, that takes care of that issue, for this year anyway.
So we have this:
Kane-Matthews-Marner. Best line in hockey.
Bunting-Tavares-Nylander. That is a very good 2nd line.
Mik-Kampf-Kase. Some scoring and tenacity. That is a decent, competitive 3rd line
Ritchie-Spezza-Simmonds. Some scoring and a nightmare to play against.
Seney-Clifford spares
On D:
Rielly-Brodie
Muzzin-Dermott
Sandin-Bouchard
Lilly
As the roster sits currently, the outcome is another first round exit.
With the new roster, Leafs can compete and likely win against the big boys like Tampa and Florida.
You can build your own team by changing out some of the names but Kerfoot, Holl, Mrazek and Engvall need to get gone.
But it is clear with the current roster, Leafs are headed for another first round exit. Dubas has to do something big so this team can compete in the playoffs.
-Kane. Sure, he has some personality issues. But he is a helluva player with much needed toughness. He can be gotten for half his salary right now as most other teams will not be interested. That gives the Leafs with 2 solid lines. If Kane is not available then Dubas has to look for a similar player.
Currently, the Leafs have virtually no cap space so a roster player or 2 will have to go.
Kerfoot has a 3.5 million cap hit. That is expensive for a 3rd rounder. Trade for picks and/or a prospect. There is the salary you need to sign Kane. Kerfoot is a good player which means a decent return.
Holl and Engvall are 2 other players that provide very little to the team and combined eat up 3.25 in cap. Problem with Holl is he shows signs he can be a serviceable D man. The other problem is, he can be lost in his own end and coughs up pucks in the worst possible places....like in front of his own net. He does not use his size effectively. The team gets better without him. Its an "addition through subtraction" thing. Lilly is a better D man, that uses his size effectively and is a much better offensively motivated player. Engvall is a turnover machine that tries to do to much...almost every shift. Have you ever seen a player skate so much and get little done? Another addition through subtraction player.
Another player that eats a ton of cap is Mrazek. 3.8 million to be exact. By moving him, Engvall and Holl, we are looking at around 7 million in cap space to sign or trade for a very good D man. There are some choices out there. A Chiarot, Chychrun, and possibly Evan Bouchard. Bouchard is interesting because he is showing signs of developing into a solid top 4 pairing at a very good cap hit. He is 6'3 every night and plays like it. Edmonton and Toronto would be excellent trade partners here. Mrazek would get you Bouchard and a 2nd round pick. Possibly a third but you get the point and Edmonton is desperate for a good goalie.
That gives Toronto a bit of a contacts out problem. But with the taxi squad implementation, that takes care of that issue, for this year anyway.
So we have this:
Kane-Matthews-Marner. Best line in hockey.
Bunting-Tavares-Nylander. That is a very good 2nd line.
Mik-Kampf-Kase. Some scoring and tenacity. That is a decent, competitive 3rd line
Ritchie-Spezza-Simmonds. Some scoring and a nightmare to play against.
Seney-Clifford spares
On D:
Rielly-Brodie
Muzzin-Dermott
Sandin-Bouchard
Lilly
As the roster sits currently, the outcome is another first round exit.
With the new roster, Leafs can compete and likely win against the big boys like Tampa and Florida.
You can build your own team by changing out some of the names but Kerfoot, Holl, Mrazek and Engvall need to get gone.
But it is clear with the current roster, Leafs are headed for another first round exit. Dubas has to do something big so this team can compete in the playoffs.
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