Confirmed with Link: TOR sign G Ilya Samsonov to 1 year, 1.8M deal

[ER89]

The likelihood of this happening is very remote.

yeah obviously, there's a reason why we got him for 1.8m.

 

[McSnypsky]

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Yeah it's nice to hear from goalie specific people!

 

[Stephen]

The likelihood of this happening is very remote.

Can’t comment on how likely it is but Samsonov is also a couple of years younger than Sorokin and Sheshterkin. His development hasn’t worked out as planned in Washington and it sounds like there’s technical things he can work on and have a different mental approach. Sounds like he doesn’t have quite the wide frame of a Vasi from a body POV but he does have length and is quite athletic.

 

[ER89]

Can’t comment on how likely it is but Samsonov is also a couple of years younger than Sorokin and Sheshterkin. His development hasn’t worked out as planned in Washington and it sounds like there’s technical things he can work on and have a different mental approach. Sounds like he doesn’t have quite the wide frame of a Vasi from a body POV but he does have length and is quite athletic.

I also think ovie and the other russians weren't the best for him in wash. Ovie might be a great leader but i still remember samsanov stoning boston all throughout 3 periods and an OT and then he makes a silly mistake to cost them in 2ot (i think could be the first ot) and gets yelled at by ovie in a game they had no business in being in if not for samsanovs ten bellers.

 

[Stephen]

I also think ovie and the other russians weren't the best for him in wash. Ovie might be a great leader but i still remember samsanov stoning boston all throughout 3 periods and an OT and then he makes a silly mistake to cost them in 2ot (i think could be the first ot) and gets yelled at by ovie in a game they had no business in being in if not for samsanovs ten bellers.

Yeah not sure what the dynamic of the Russian clique would be in Washington but at least here he can keep focused without a lot of veteran established Russian stars getting in his grill.

 

[ER89]

Yeah not sure what the dynamic of the Russian clique would be in Washington but at least here he can keep focused without a lot of veteran established Russian stars getting in his grill.

Agreed. Guys like him just need to be pushed. If he gets back to playing a sound ish game and our guys can adjust his technique the upside is massive.

The downside is if there is one area that I don't trust our development team, its in the goaltending department.

 

[Hellcat]

Can’t comment on how likely it is but Samsonov is also a couple of years younger than Sorokin and Sheshterkin. His development hasn’t worked out as planned in Washington and it sounds like there’s technical things he can work on and have a different mental approach. Sounds like he doesn’t have quite the wide frame of a Vasi from a body POV but he does have length and is quite athletic.

Ovie gave Samsonov the Matthews to Holl, treatment... the star don't like you and/or blames you for poor plays, you tend to be on the next train out of town.

Pro Tip ... by the EOY Samsonov will be our #1 and Murray will be riding the bench.... that may be a bad omen ... its like Toskala being your #1 and raycroft is your #2 ....

Agreed. Guys like him just need to be pushed. If he gets back to playing a sound ish game and our guys can adjust his technique the upside is massive.

The downside is if there is one area that I don't trust our development team, its in the goaltending department.

Yep I got the same Leaf fan distrust of our coaches (plural) ability to develop our pro talent. then again Sanford had Vancouver's goalies and they seem to be developing OK.

 

[saltming]

Agreed. Guys like him just need to be pushed. If he gets back to playing a sound ish game and our guys can adjust his technique the upside is massive.

The downside is if there is one area that I don't trust our development team, its in the goaltending department.

How can you not like the goaltending department when it's basically all new?

 

[Pinto]

Semi-hot take but I think he’s our #1 by the end of the year.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Semi-hot take but I think he’s our #1 by the end of the year.

Could be by end of month 1 or 2 if Murray's health issues come up again.

 

[ER89]

How can you not like the goaltending department when it's basically all new?

I said I don't trust it. Not that I don't like it. And I don't trust it, because frankly like you said.... its new.

 

[saltming]

I said I don't trust it. Not that I don't like it. And I don't trust it, because frankly like you said.... its new.

That's fair but elkin and Sanford are respected in the field and considered in touch with the current style of hockey and goaltending styles needed to succeed.
Agreed they are an unknown and I don't know how good they will be, but I'm confident they will be better than what we moved on from

 

[ER89]

That's fair but elkin and Sanford are respected in the field and considered in touch with the current style of hockey and goaltending styles needed to succeed.
Agreed they are an unknown and I don't know how good they will be, but I'm confident they will be better than what we moved on from

I think they will as well. It's just tough to gauge considering we have limited body of work to go on. I hope they're amazing though obviously.

 

[saltming]

I think they will as well. It's just tough to gauge considering we have limited body of work to go on. I hope they're amazing though obviously.

Agreed.
Everyone has a great resume but sometimes the work doesn't match it.

 

[crump]

I like these isolation videos this guy puts up on YouTube. Samsonov is very athletic, very active in net.

 

[The Masters]

I think he will be our # 1

 

[Stephen]

I like these isolation videos this guy puts up on YouTube. Samsonov is very athletic, very active in net.

The tools are very high end, you can definitely see the pedigree there the way he moves in the net. Guess it just has to come together and he has to find that efficiency in athleticism/technique and reading the play.

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[Antropovsky]

I like these isolation videos this guy puts up on YouTube. Samsonov is very athletic, very active in net.

Thanks for sharing, his legs seem to be moving faster than his brain at times, but the athletism and tools are noticeable. He didn't seem to get alot of action in this game.

 

[MarioLeMoose]

Semi-hot take but I think he’s our #1 by the end of the year.

You think its a semi-hot take that Murray will end up being a backup? lol

 

[ACC1224]

With all Murray discussion about his health and the poor deal Dubas pulled off, Samsonov seems to have been forgotten.

I think this is going to turn into a great pickup, the most exciting move of the off season.

(Plus a fresh topic is needed, )

 

[Mess]

With all Murray discussion about his health and the poor deal Dubas pulled off, Samsonov seems to have been forgotten.

I think this is going to turn into a great pickup, the most exciting move of the off season.

(Plus a fresh topic is needed, )

This might be the safer move in net and a better safety net. This is move where Dubas hedged his bet and may have minimized the risk coming with Murray.

Samsonov might be a better replacement for Campbell and Murray more like Mrazek. I wouldn't be surprised if Ilya plays more games this year of the 2 goalies and we see a 50/30 game split.

Samsonov did have a rough year in 2021-22, and lost in 5 games to Florida in round #1 last year and despite being a RFA the Caps walked away from him without a qualifying offer. However I agree this might be Dubas best move this offseason and Leafs caught a break because Caps cut him loose,.

However what you have to like here is he was a former 1st round drafted capital player #22 overall in 2015 (ahead of players like Brock Boeser, Travis Konecny, Sebastian Aho). So not to long somebody thought this was a high-end prospect (Andrei Vasilevskiy went #19 overall a few drafts earlier in a similar draft range).

 

[andora]

The one year deal seems fruitless

If anything positive happens he either
A. Prices himself out and goes
B. Forces Dubas to potentially pay to dump murray

Disclaimer: key word is potentially also known as hypothetical and not a statement of fact.

 

[A1LeafNation]

The one year deal seems fruitless

If anything positive happens he either
A. Prices himself out and goes
B. Forces Dubas to potentially pay to dump murray

Disclaimer: key word is potentially also known as hypothetical and not a statement of fact.

If they both have good years, Murray becomes tradeable and Samsonov becomes the franchise.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

The one year deal seems fruitless

If anything positive happens he either
A. Prices himself out and goes
B. Forces Dubas to potentially pay to dump murray

Disclaimer: key word is potentially also known as hypothetical and not a statement of fact.

Well if A happens, we can probably move him for a good return like the Rangers did with Georgiev or Caps did with Vanecek.

If we prefer Samsonov over Murray, that is not to say that Murray will have negative value next year either. It is very possible that both do well next year.

But I do find it unlikely that both will be here next year. Woll or possibly Kallgren will likely take over the backup job behind whoever we feel like is the better long term option.

 

[usernamezrhardtodo]

That's fair but elkin and Sanford are respected in the field and considered in touch with the current style of hockey and goaltending styles needed to succeed.
Agreed they are an unknown and I don't know how good they will be, but I'm confident they will be better than what we moved on from

I think basically anybody but Briere is going to be better. I think Acrobatic Goalie said some pretty eye opening things about good ole Stevie when discussing his approach to goaltenders in general...which is tinker, tinker and more tinker.