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I really wanted him to stick in NJ. Tons of skill and fun to watch but his skating held him back from being elite. He tries defensively but just doesn’t have good positioning or the strength to be effective. More or less him playing defence is just trying to get in the opposing players way and hoping the puck comes loose.
His vision , puck handling , offensive IQ is great but the rest of his game is so bad that he is a liability 5 on 5 .
 
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Nothingbutglass said:
I've read the Leafs have the best sports training program in the league. If anyone can teach smurfs to skate, it's Barb Underhill.
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She also works with the Tampa Bay Lightning and fixed Brayden Point's skating, sarcasm notwithstanding...
 
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I'm sure Nikita Gusev won't play for a million dollars
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Why? There's a salary cap of $12 million in the KHL and their season has already started. The rich teams can't fit him on their rosters. And he probably wants to have another opportunity to play vs the best in the world.
 
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Interesting. Zero risk , decent possible reward. I could see him in the top 9 , but Keefe seems to like pace , and while Gusev has talent his skating isn't great . But like others pointed out he could sign a contract with anyone at anytime, so far from a foregone conclusion that he sticks.
 

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AfroThunder396 said:
Gusev is not a bad teammate or a cancer or anything of the sort. He has outrageous puck skills but skates like he's constipated and is actively hurtful in his own zone.

Imagine if Alexi Kovalev had the skating ability of Derian Hatcher. That's Gusev. Good PP option but he can't take a regular shift at ES without harming your team.
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Didn't he have the best Corsi on Devils in his first season?
 
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Situation with Gusev is so typical for NHL. He'd be playing as a LW for 20 or so years, so the first thing they did to him, when he came to the league, turned him into RW. He has a very good one timer from the left side, which was never used. He still scored 46 points in 60 some games in his first season.

As to the 2nd season, I didn't follow him closely, but probably combination of COVID and new coach damaged him more than many others. On the other hand it didn't look like Devils' young kids made any progress under new coach...
 
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If you're making your NHL debut in your late 20's, on top of being a 7th rd pick, there's only so much to work with. We're not talking about the Iron Curtain here anymore.

Just like players in general, the NHL isn't easy. The college free agent, the vet from overseas, the odds of them being good are low. The hype is always there though.
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That kinda proves his point more about how hilarious the hype was
 
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ItWasJustified said:
Why? There's a salary cap of $12 million in the KHL and their season has already started. The rich teams can't fit him on their rosters. And he probably wants to have another opportunity to play vs the best in the world.
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They'll find a way. those rich KHL teams 1st. priority is the Russian National Team. and Gusev is still probably, maybe, a candidate (50/50) for the Russian team even with NHL participation...and most certainly a candidate if the NHL pulls the plug on their Olympic plans.

Gusev will be back in the KHL by mid to late October.

as I wrote in an earlier post, I hope regular flights have resumed from YYZ to SVO.
 
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Kshahdoo said:
As to the 2nd season, I didn't follow him closely, but probably combination of COVID and new coach damaged him more than many others. On the other hand it didn't look like Devils' young kids made any progress under new coach...
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Yeah.

Hughes:
2020-2021: 31 p, 56 gp (0.55 ppg)
2019-2020: 21 p, 61 gp (0.34 ppg)

Zacha:
2020-2021: 35 p, 50 gp (0.70 ppg)
2019-2020: 32 p, 65 gp (0.49 ppg)

Bratt:
2020-2021: 30 p, 46 gp (0.65 ppg)
2019-2020: 32 p, 60 gp (0.53 ppg)

Wood:
2020-2021: 25 p, 55 gp (0.45 ppg)
2019-2020: 23 p, 68 gp (0.34 ppg)

McLeod:
2020-2021: 15 p, 52 gp (0.29 ppg)
2019-2020: 2 p, 12 gp (0.17 ppg)

Sharangovich:
2020-2021: 30 p, 54 gp (0.56 ppg)

Kuokkanen:
2020-2021: 25 p, 50 gp (0.50 ppg)
2019-2020: 0 p, 1 gp (0.00 ppg)

Smith:
2020-2021: 23 p, 48 gp (0.48 ppg)

But whatever.
 
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Nothingbutglass said:
I've read the Leafs have the best sports training program in the league. If anyone can teach smurfs to skate, it's Barb Underhill.
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You don't fix it during the season. You fix it over the summer by training in the offseason. A small training camp window isn't enough for anybody to fix his skating, and they probably won't waste too much camp time on that. Especially a PTO.
 

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Monsieur Verdoux said:
Yeah.

Hughes:
2020-2021: 31 p, 56 gp (0.55 ppg)
2019-2020: 21 p, 61 gp (0.34 ppg)

Zacha:
2020-2021: 35 p, 50 gp (0.70 ppg)
2019-2020: 32 p, 65 gp (0.49 ppg)

Bratt:
2020-2021: 30 p, 46 gp (0.65 ppg)
2019-2020: 32 p, 60 gp (0.53 ppg)

Wood:
2020-2021: 25 p, 55 gp (0.45 ppg)
2019-2020: 23 p, 68 gp (0.34 ppg)

McLeod:
2020-2021: 15 p, 52 gp (0.29 ppg)
2019-2020: 2 p, 12 gp (0.17 ppg)

Sharangovich:
2020-2021: 30 p, 54 gp (0.56 ppg)

Kuokkanen:
2020-2021: 25 p, 50 gp (0.50 ppg)
2019-2020: 0 p, 1 gp (0.00 ppg)

Smith:
2020-2021: 23 p, 48 gp (0.48 ppg)

But whatever.
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Hughes scored 11 points in first 13 games, and then got back to his previous season's one. Bratt still played better under Nasreddine. Wood once scored 20 goals and couldn't get back to that level since that. Nico Hischier was Nico Hishier. Zacha was the only youngster who made a progress.

Devils were at 50% point pace under Nasreddine, under Ruff they looked significantly worse.
 
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Kshahdoo said:
Hughes scored 11 points in first 13 games, and then got back to his previous season's one. Bratt still played better under Nasreddine. Wood once scored 20 goals and couldn't get back to that level since that. Nico Hischier was Nico Hishier. Zacha was the only youngster who made a progress.

Devils were at 50% point pace under Nasreddine, under Ruff they looked significantly worse.
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If you think that Hughes didn't make any progress, I don't know what to tell you. His point totals are one thing, but his advanced stats were much better than in his rookie season. And you have to count all his points, also those 11 points in first 13 games (after those games he got Covid, and he struggled a bit when he came back).

I don't know if Bratt played better under Nasreddine. Maybe, maybe not. I don't remember that he played particularly well under Nasreddine, but maybe I'm wrong. You also wrote, that Wood once scored 20 goals and couldn't get back to that level since that. Well, last season he had 17 goals in 55 games, so I'm pretty sure that he would have got over 20 goals, if they played 82 games.

Hischier had serious leg injury and Covid, so it's difficult to evaluate if he made a progress.

I think Ruff is an average coach in the NHL, so I don't want to defend him here too much. But if you think that Devils' young kids didn't made any progress last season, I have to disagree.
 

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ItWasJustified said:
Why? There's a salary cap of $12 million in the KHL and their season has already started. The rich teams can't fit him on their rosters. And he probably wants to have another opportunity to play vs the best in the world.
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Last I heard, there is no cap yet for "under the table" money in KHL....
 
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Kshahdoo said:
Hughes scored 11 points in first 13 games, and then got back to his previous season's one. Bratt still played better under Nasreddine. Wood once scored 20 goals and couldn't get back to that level since that. Nico Hischier was Nico Hishier. Zacha was the only youngster who made a progress.

Devils were at 50% point pace under Nasreddine, under Ruff they looked significantly worse.
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How do you know Bratt still played better if you already admitted you didn’t want NJ last year?

The cool thing about the first 13 games of the season is that they also count towards you totals for the season, just like every other game.

17 goals in 55 games is worse than 20 in a full season? Interesting theory.

Also Gusev isn’t a “young guy”…

you have no point here
 
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I mean, it's a PTO. He has invited several long shots and if one works with the group, then it's a W. If not, it cost them literally nothing.
 
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