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Confirmed Signing with Link: [TOR] F Auston Matthews signs extension with the Maple Leafs (4 years, $13.25M AAV)

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Strangle said:
These are unusual times.

Do you remember another time in the NHL when the salary cap was stagnant for years, while players paid back a massive amount of escrow to the owners?

Do you remember a time that existed where after so many years of a stagnant cap, the cap was thought to rise more in a few years than it had the entire previous decade?

And do you remember what hart trophy winning players were signing their contracts right on the eve of that cap increase finally happening?
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So are you agreeing with me that there isn't precedence for this contract? It seems like you are agreeing with me!
 
Dirty Dog said:
What makes this AM contract unique is he is a star player a year away from free agency. While staying with the team, he took a massive AAV contract that was only four years. Other players in his situation, have either moved on to a different team or signed a long-term deal. I am not sure why you are arguing against this. I literally can't think of a single example of a star player doing what AM has done since the NHL has been like this (for at least 6 or so years).

Why you think the NHL 18 years ago is relevant is confusing. What was different? What i just described (what is going on in the NHL) wasn't going on. That is what's different. The norm wasn't you sign you star 23-25 year old to long term deals. Joe Thornton at 25 a year away from free agency? Signed a three year deal. It was a thing then. Now it is not, AM's contract is unique.

Again, I am not sure what you are arguing against. AM's contract is absolutely different than every other similar player in his situation the past 6 years at least. Maybe I am forgetting someone, but I don't think I am.
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I think you just answered your own question. The NHL changes.

It went from shorter term deals, to longer term deals, maybe Matthews is the start of the shorter term era again - maybe he isn't. Either way, who cares?
 
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The Real JT said:
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Good for him.

Now he can afford to get this abomination out of his wardrobe rotation.
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On a professional level, matthews is an incredible athlete and hockey player.

On a personal level, I don’t think this guy would be someone I’d want to hang out with

Dirty Dog said:
So are you agreeing with me that there isn't precedence for this contract? It seems like you are agreeing with me!
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Of course I am
 
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Great player (although you can certainly question his performances in high stakes games) but I feel like that's an 8 year AAV. But I guess that's the Toronto special.
 
Mackinnon signed for 8 years at 12.6m correct?

What changed in the last 10 months to cut this tier of player down 4 years?
 
Divine said:
I think you just answered your own question. The NHL changes.

It went from shorter term deals, to longer term deals, maybe Matthews is the start of the shorter term era again - maybe he isn't. Either way, who cares?
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While I think it is a bit funny he got this great player-friendly deal that no one else has in his situation the past couple seasons, I have said it doesn't mean it is a bad contract. And I dont think the leafs could have done anything about it
 
Divine said:
Oh I see the problem, you don't know when the salary cap was implemented. :laugh:

They're both salary cap signings.
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C’mon man you’re smarter than that. Least I hope so.

Oops saw we were talking about Holik, at one point, then I see now it’s Iginla, my bad.
 
I get why Matthews pushed for 4 but if I'm Treliving I'm very happy about it as well. 4 years of prime and then you can trade him at the deadline or let him walk as an UFA and let another sucker take the non prime years.
 
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A1LeafNation said:
Mackinnon signed for 8 years at 12.6m correct?

What changed in the last 10 months to cut this tier of player down 4 years?
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More aav and less term than a better player. Leafs got played by Matthews again. But hey if Leafs fans like it good on you. Lotta cake though for a guy that averages 42 goals a year. Dont get me wrong 42 goals a year is fantastic. But not 13+ million on a short term deal fantastic. If it was 8 years you could say the rising cap will even it out but.....
 
Golden_Jet said:
C’mon man you’re smarter than that. Least I hope so.
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The salary cap was agreed on in the 2004-2005 CBA negotiations.
Iginla signed his contract on August 3, 2005 in the salary cap era.

What are you confused about?
 
McVespa99 said:
More aav and less term than a better player. Leafs got played by Matthews again. But hey if Leafs fans like it good on you. Lotta cake though for a guy that averages 42 goals a year. Dont get me wrong 42 goals a year is fantastic. But not 13+ million on a short term deal fantastic. If it was 8 years you could say the rising cap will even it out but.....
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He’s been the best goal scorer in the league since his first game. He’s all a very good defensive player that is top 10 in Selke votes. He is absolutely worth the money
 
Rafafouille said:
I get why Matthews pushed for 4 but if I'm Treliving I'm very happy about it as well. 4 years of prime and then you can trade him at the deadline or let him walk as an UFA and let another sucker take the non prime years.
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That sounds good but Im going to go out on a limb and guess he has a full no move. With the lack of loyalty he seems to display I doubt he would wave for any team. He wont wave for a team he doesnt want to go to and he wont wave for a team he does want to go to because of the assets it will cost them. I would bet the farm he "explores" free agency at the end of this contract. Which is his right
 
McVespa99 said:
More aav and less term than a better player. Leafs got played by Matthews again. But hey if Leafs fans like it good on you. Lotta cake though for a guy that averages 42 goals a year. Dont get me wrong 42 goals a year is fantastic. But not 13+ million on a short term deal fantastic. If it was 8 years you could say the rising cap will even it out but.....
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Matthews leads the league in goals since he entered the league in 2016-17. Less term is a risk for both sides, its not like we were buying RFA years like the last deal.
 
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Ezekial said:
Kane fell off during the deal? He had 45 points in 54 games for the Hawks this year before they traded him and he put up 93 points in 78 games last year. He had 680 points in 604 games during that deal. The Hawks fell off mainly because of all the other shit tier deals Bowman signed, like Seabrook. Not Kane's deal.
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Kane was pretty clearly a PP specialist this past season and was absolutely not a 10.5 mil player in the final year of his deal. My point was that players fall off in their mid 30's. Kane is 34 and essentially done with big play and big contracts. If Kane's contract had gone a few more years it would have been an anchor.
 
93LEAFS said:
Matthews leads the league in goals since he entered the league in 2016-17. Less term is a risk for both sides, its not like we were buying RFA years like the last deal.
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Sorry, 42 goals per year. Thats less than Drai if you drop the first year that he barely played. There is nothing in the world that makes it ok for Matthews to be the highest paid player in the league. And there is very little risk for Matthews. He has already made over 100 million.
 
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