Golden_Jet
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I had edited my post, prior to you posting this, go back and reread. Thanks.
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Confirmed Signing with Link: [TOR] F Auston Matthews signs extension with the Maple Leafs (4 years, $13.25M AAV)
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Is this the second time is definitively leaving?
15% AAV is fine.
I would have liked 1 more year. I didn’t want the full 8. I don’t think he will age well. I think get his prime. Trade him with a year left.
15% AAV is fine.
I would have liked 1 more year. I didn’t want the full 8. I don’t think he will age well. I think get his prime. Trade him with a year left.
If the players SOLE goal is to earn as much as humanly possible, then yes signing 7/8 year deals are bad for them. Personally... at what point is enough money enough money? I'm all for the smaller fish to earn as much as humanly possible. Those guys who will only earn 10-30m over their careers? Yeah they should grab all they possibly can. But Matthews will be 27 when this deal kicks in (to start that season). He will have earned ~59/60m in career earnings. Given his age and future contracts... he could easily sign a "team friendly" deal at 10/12m per for 8 years and still get paid without it impacting his financial future in any way.
At some point the money doesn't mean all that much. When an extra 10m has little bearing on your financial well being/future... wouldn't it make more sense to leave more on the table so that you have a real shot at winning? Sure the players all say they wanna win... but then you see contracts like this and you're like... you dont' really wanna win now do you?
I think it depends on the player. Matthews and Marner are signing contracts that even if they never played a game of that 2nd contract that were signed in 2019 (say injuries), due to the nature of the guaranteed contracts, that they'd still be set for life. That doesn't work for every player. These are franchise guys earning big money.
Do I think we'll see more players going this route? Honestly, probably not. I still think overwhelmingly we'll see the 7/8 year deals for most top players. Why? Because it gives them the financial security, the avoidance of having to do a new deal as often, and with what they're earning, setting them up for life with a guaranteed contract. I mean we just watched Mackinnon, Larkin and Aho sign 8 year deals, and all were coming off of well paying 2nd contracts. Meier I don't think is as much of a comparable as those others, but he also just signed an 8 yr deal, as have many others in similar circumstances to TM. Since March 1st 2023 there's been 15 7/8 year contracts signed. 19 if you want to go to Jan 1st 2023.
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That would totally be true. Except its only a 4 year deal. That is the whole point. If it was 8 it would still seem high but at least would have a chance of being reasonable if the cap went up enough
To the people saying "It's not 8 years" Are you actually suggesting that paying a 34 year old Matthews 13.25M would be a good idea ? lol
More than happy with this deal, was hoping for under 13, but locked him up for the remainder of his prime.
More than happy with this deal, was hoping for under 13, but locked him up for the remainder of his prime.
Has anything changed? Few players at this caliber were signing 5/6 yr deals coming off of their ELCs. I think Matthews (and Marner) were outliers then in 2019 and I don't really think that's changed all that much. Going forward I doubt it'll change all that much. We'll continue to see the odd player here and there do this... but overwhelmingly I think we'll continue to see 7/8 yr deals from franchise players.
Bingo. Bad deals suck, dude. Sorry for the Leafs.
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Pretty sure everyone here signed a 5/6 year deal off their ELC.
I’m glad he got it signed before the year started. Could have let us twist all season, after all he held all the cards.. he’ll be 31 when his next contract kicks in, good to have a guy bet on himself and go for a 4 year deal. I think most players would want the security of an 8 year deal. Sure 1 would have preferred 12 million but we can and we will.
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This is a very unique circumstance. Everyone says there will be unprecedented cap growth starting next offseason. Matthews just happens to be the first major deal that starts on that date. Imo history will say that MacKinnons deal was just extra generous
People don't seem to like the Tavares contract... his contract will end at 34.
Brodie is ancient on our board, he is 33.
Golden_Jet
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or the difference between buying UFA and RFA years...
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hamzarocks
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How many of them signed 4 year third deal at the 2nd or 3rd highest cap %.
Matthews down season in 2023 had no impact on negotiations, any concerns of injuries had no impact on negotiations, his poor playpff play over 50 game sample size had no impact
We were worried about Dubas Tempering with Matthews to get him paid, but Treliving/Shanny seem to be doing the exact same
Crosby's first deal was 17.3%, for reference, Matthews' will be 15.1% when it kicks in.
Crosby is superstitious which is why he took a discount on his second 12 year contract.
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How did the Avs buy Mackinnon's UFA years at 12.6M for 8 years?
Assuming cap goes to 87.5M Matthews & Mackinnon have the same cap% pretty much, but we only got 4 UFA years instead of 8 like Mack
No clue, I think most players want the security of their years past their prime secured so they take 8 year deals.
Clearly, Matthews isn't concerned about his injury and neither are the Leafs, so I'll side with them over your worry.
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