BertCorbeau
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I don’t think Dubas gives up Kadri without the idea that he intends on re-signing Barrie
The issue with the cap is how much do you want to sink into your top pair and how much into the other four? Giving Barrie a big, long-term deal means you have less to spend on your other four defencemen.
I guess the focus is this year and then worry about the rest.
If i'm Dubas im negotiating a contract with Barrie now
I don’t think Dubas gives up Kadri without the idea that he intends on re-signing Barrie
And if I’m Barrie, I say let’s see what next summer holds
If Toronto is offering you 8 years, and the 7.5-8M you are looking for, you take it.
Look at Jake Gardiner. One injury late in the season has derailed his entire free agency where he appeared poised to get 7 years and 6.5-7M. Now it looks like he’ll maybe get a 2 or 3 year deal around 5.5-6M.
Waiting works for RFA’s, but for UFA’s, if you can get an extension, you do it
IThis deal still stings.
...It appears its Kadri for Kerfoot.
This to me is the issue. Barrie is basically a one-year rental.
If Toronto is offering you 8 years, and the 7.5-8M you are looking for, you take it.
Look at Jake Gardiner. One injury late in the season has derailed his entire free agency where he appeared poised to get 7 years and 6.5-7M. Now it looks like he’ll maybe get a 2 or 3 year deal around 5.5-6M.
Waiting works for RFA’s, but for UFA’s, if you can get an extension, you do it
Possibly. But if you are like JT and want to choose your location... the money doesn’t matter. You’ll get something comparable.
I wouldn't compare Tyson Barrie to John Tavares. Tavares is a franchise center. Even if he had injury issues, he would still have been sought after. As Jake Gardiner has shown, that money and term can disappear quickly for non-franchise guys. Ferland is another example. Wayne Simmonds is another. Ryan Dzingle turned down an extension from Ottawa, which was 3 more years than he got, and 1.5Mish more than he got.
I feel like Pesce would have been the happy medium between Barrie and Brodie. Not as much offensive upside as Barrie, but a RHD with term and Carolina does want to upgrade at forward.
Still curious about Jankowski's availability though. Wouldn't mind him as a project center on the third line.
He most likely is.If i'm Dubas im negotiating a contract with Barrie now
Barrie> Pesce. It's not close.
He's about average, alot better than gardnerCan Barrie play defense?
Actually he's below average, and worse than Gardiner. Gardiner is above averageHe's about average, alot better than gardner
It's pretty close actually. Their zone exit/zone entry's are very similar. Barrie has the better offense, while Pesce has the better entry prevention defense.
Barrie> Pesce. It's not close.
Given what our team needs and factoring age and contract, pesce would have been more ideal. We will would have needed a 3 line center though.
Given what our team needs and factoring age and contract, pesce would have been more ideal. We will would have needed a 3 line center though.
We know that Carolina and Toronto were talking about this last year as Kadri was rumoured to be moved for Pesce.
What we don’t know is whether Carolina was on his 10 team list. May not have even been an option.
He's about average, alot better than gardner