Totally agree. I'm not angry at him either, it's his career. But he and his agent should know that from the Rangers perspective they're probably more invested in Fox and Lundkvist.
Player Discussion Tony DeAngelo: Part III
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Totally agree. I'm not angry at him either, it's his career. But he and his agent should know that from the Rangers perspective they're probably more invested in Fox and Lundkvist.
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He also held out until after training camp and signed on 10/5.
Hasn't caused any issues. He had a good year despite not showing up until then. He signed long term after and has been there for years.
Tony D is tweeting about the Eagles. Larry Brooks sent him a response.
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$925K might not be fair but it's not exactly a shit sandwich either. Tony has one year of bullshit left to go before he gets arbitration rights. He will get paid but better to go forward and get paid more than to sit out and probably not make as much later. He risks losing the battle to Fox without a fight if he lets him get too far ahead.
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And at the end of his holdout, did he get any more money? The Rangers can't give him what they don't have.
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I'm just saying there was no negative impact from him holding out. Not in terms of his role, production, status with the team, or future contracts.
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There wasn't, but he also didn't have the history that ADA does. I just think the holdout is pointless and can only hurt Tony in the long run.
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There is no return to be had for trading ADA. Any team can offer him an offer sheet that the Rangers can't match due to cap issues. The only reason that hasn't happened is the fear that the Rangers would target their RFA's in the future. Broken system.
Yes, not good optics. I’m willing to guess that they sweetened the QO to about 1.1 mil. I wonder who else Brisson represents, I know the name gotta look it up.
Just looked it up, a who’s who, Crosby, Kopitar, Kane, on and on. Only other Ranger is Day. No doubt in my mind they were engineering an offer sheet that didn’t happen (yet). He’s connected. Teams should be wary about doing that to us since we have a ton of $$ coming off the books and entering into a win now mode, ala retribution
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Had a good time earlier today skimming over the old Stepan holdout threads. Pretty similar reactions to now.
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The Krug situation is probably the best example, and that'd be ~ $1.6M AAV for a one-year deal. We realistically could hit that for Tony, but there's still no issue going to like $1.2-1.4M for him.
Maybe he's holding out so he doesn't have to play with Staal
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Maybe he's holding out so he doesn't have to play with Staal
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Yeah make sure you’re calling from a one party consent state to tape the call, just sayin
And now he’s buried in a hole out in the desert, don’t mess with Don JD and his capo de tutti capo regime JG
Or maybe there is no offer sheet because other teams do not think that a player like him is worth an offer sheet?
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Pionk's contract had absolutely nothing to do with ADAs contract. Pionk was eligible for arbitration, ADA was not. If ADA wants to use Pionk's contract as a comparison, he can sign his contract, have a good season and then use it during his arbitration hearing.
Hockey is a business. Players and teams use the CBA to their advantage. ADA has no leverage this year. He can play this situation out in any way he wants, but the reality is he's stuck, now. He wants more leverage next year? Get on the ice and prove he's worth it.
Well said. There's a bunch of prospects aiming to win his time on the ice for themselves. If ADA wants to be part of the equation, then he has to suck it up and get on the ice so he can get noticed.
Clock's ticking.
Teams rarely sign any players (except their own holdouts) during training camp/pre-season. ADA might see an offer sheet in October--if some team panics about their lineup--but how often does that happen? I don't know off hand, but bet it's not often.
also another day that he could show he's not ready yet and we need ada even more than we think
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Leverage is in the eye of the beholder. Carolina had no leverage vs. the Rangers but extracted 2 no. 2's for Fox because the Rangers didn't want to wait them out. Somewhat similarily ADA could be the Rangers 2nd best dman this year. Do they really want to screw him out of a few 100K's because he has no place to go. What if he stands on principle and doesn't sign. Lemiuex was in the same (really worse) predicament and the Rangers sweetened the pot by 50K. I suspect the Rangers will give ADA an extra 200K or so to sign.
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