I'd agree with your point in nearly every other scenario, just not one involving the guy that's had a problem with every coach going back to juniors.
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I'd agree with your point in nearly every other scenario, just not one involving the guy that's had a problem with every coach going back to juniors.
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just to clarify this, he was outed for it but it wasnt his fault.....he plays right d and two left d were on the ice, you take your man so it was skjei's fault when smith was still on the ice
i know quinn stared down ada but to me thats all on brady
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Vinny DeAngelo
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His shit is over whelmingly together... He is playing outstanding* right now
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Outstanding compared to our other dmen*
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Tawnos
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See, this is the kind of thing that causes so many arguments. He played well against LA, and I think just about all of us agree. Outstanding just isn't an accurate description.
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Tawnos
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I mean which D pair. I don't know the order in which those guys went out there since I didn't go back and look, but if the coaches call Smith/Shattenkirk, and DeAngelo for whatever reason thinks they called his pairing, Skjei incorrectly following DeAngelo onto the ice, Smith correctly jumping on and Shattenkirk recognizing that DeAngelo already went on is a totally plausible scenario... one that's the fault of DeAngelo. That's not the only possibility.
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which is fine, but i remember smith was on the ice, shattenkirk had already come off for ADA and skjei also jumped on....by process of elimination that would mean skjei jumped on too soon
regardless this isnt something he should be "docked" for as the last 5 too many men penalties had nothing to do with him
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I mean shouldn't everyone on this page?
Are you not interested in icing the best roster for the future?
Do you even care about Rangers hockey?
Tawnos
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I do, but players on this team need to be playing well relative to their own ability. It doesn't matter if DeAngelo is playing outstanding relative to other D on the team (which he isn't... again, he did well in LA, but not outstanding, even relative to his teammates). That's how you ice the best team (as opposed to collection of individuals).
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Like I said, I don't remember. If true, and I'll hold my opinion since people fairly often get the sequence of events mixed up with these things, then I'd agree. But we still don't know who the coaches said to go. Perhaps when Shatty was coming to the bench, for whatever reason the coaches called Skjei and DeAngelo just assumed he was going out there too. My point is that we don't know, and I can't imagine a coach being pissed with the guy who did the right thing on a TMM call.
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a more interesting question might be who is responsible for the D, because from what ive seen so far this year quinn takes care of the forwards more so.....from personal experience the job is split which means another coach is responsible for which d go out......think miracle when herb brooks questions the dmen before he scores in the movie
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Pretty sure it's still Ruff, isn't it? Though that's why I wasn't really specifying Quinn who was calling the line change. He's just the one who was mad.
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i have no idea, but if it is ruff then quinn's death stare right after that call is a little perplexing
Just watched Quinn’s comments on what DeAngelo has to do better to stay in and basically he has nothing bad to say about the kid. Says he’s offensively gifted and uhhhh has to work on his gaps but everyone does. So this coach just doesn’t want to play him. Because he’s Jersey guy and not a Boston guy? Quinn is losing me. Actually never had me. Didn’t like the hire and disliking it more and more.
Maybe there's something with ADA he doesn't want to share with the media? His previous comments about ADA have been, "We've talked, he knows what he needs to do to get back in," and "Yes, yes [it is related to practice]." So he's not exactly airing grievances--and nor should he.
Other than the Staal thing, which I don't believe is up to Quinn, when has he shown an unwillingness to bench a guy, or anything else that would lead a person to believe he randomly holds grudges or singles out specific players?
offdacrossbar
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pretty sure coaches lothe players who can practice weak and play strong
again, i get the feeling Quinn would prefer ADA not play well ?? could that be true ?
doesnt help the coach when a player slacks in practice and excels when it counts.
again, i get the feeling Quinn would prefer ADA not play well ?? could that be true ?
doesnt help the coach when a player slacks in practice and excels when it counts.
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I'm going to tweet at Tony and tell him to stop flexing on Dave, he isn't taking it well and it's not helping.
This is the kind of stuff where, I don't know, I just get lost here.
offdacrossbar
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I agree with you I don’t think he has much of a choice with staal.
But there’s something wrong here with his decisions regarding some of the young guys on this team.
Howden shouldn’t be getting solid 3C mins over Chytil. Just because he’s a lunch pail guy. Playing Chytil on a 4th line with Mcleod and a dumb AHLer at best in Lettieri is not doing a good job. Just isn’t.
Playing Pionk Scott Niedermayer Mins because he’s a lunch pail kid over DeAngelo or even Shattenkirk on the PP is flat out stupid.
Playing McQuaid because he’s from Boston over ANY of the above mentioned is even dumber.
I really don’t care if DeAngelo is an ass. You knew that when you dealt for him. You told all of us you did your homework on him. So the kid is talented on a team with barely any of it.
Stop playing Vesey over buchnevich too.
These are the same conversations we’d be having if AV were still here and chasing a playoff spot.
How about Georgiev playing 2 games total? Out of 12? How’s that developing our young goalie? That would put Hank around 69 games if that pace continues.
I don’t see anything from this coach that says I’m here to develop these kids. He looks like he’s desperate to sneak into the 8th spot which he never will and the vets at least the ones leaving soon are quitting on him already.
It never ceases to amaze me how the player consistently gets the benefit of the doubt. Ask yourself this - who is more likely to be the problem in this relationship - the rookie coach who has no choice but to give everyone a clean slate, or the young player with who has multiple run ins with people in positions of authority?
Quinn doesn't have the track record to make an educated guess on whats going on. DeAngelo sure does.
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