Tkachuk or Marner

[Rals]

That doesn't really have much to do about Marner or Tkachuk though.

That's Dubas.

im just suggesting that the value between there two players is pretty close, when considering them holistically

 

[NyQuil]

im just suggesting that the value between there two players is pretty close, when considering them holistically

You missed my edit.

Marner has such a large contract partly because he produced so damned much. Kind of weird to hold that against him now.

 

[Jeune Poulet]

How? Tkatchuk isnt going to drive a line with Tavares or Matthews or QB a pp like Marner does. I love when people make stupid comments pretending like they know about a team they dont watch.

Anger issues much? What are you blabbering about? Why are you saying I don't watch those teams? Do you know me?

Instead of telling people they make stupid comments, you should look at Brady Tkachuk play a little more and maybe you'd see how ridiculous your comparison to Wayne Simmonds is.

Brady Tkachuk is an extremely skilled power forward and an agitator that is constantly playing. He's a gamer and exactly the kind of gritty, passionate player the Leafs are currently missing. Don't know why you're blabbering about the Leafs powerplay, as if the Leafs didn't have a bunch of offensive dynamos to make things happen.

Nobody is saying Marner is crap. I'm just suggesting that Brady Tkachuk's talent level and potential contributions have been underestimated by some on this thread and that I personally feel he would be a better fit for the Leafs.

 

[Oilers Propagandist]

Lucic's team won a cup he certainly didn't do it on his own and wasn't the best player on his team.

Lucic was also coming off a 20 point season and Kessel would have an 80 point season the next year. I think there would have been some short sighted people that would have taken Lucic but I think most people would have gone with the clearly more talented player in Kessel.

Lucic certainly brings cup pedigree to the Flames but yeah I agree with your point. They can’t do it themselves. I also agree that kessel before his cups > Looch but he wasn’t still my second favorite player pre Kings. As for the thread I still believe that Marner > Brady.

 

[AvroArrow]

Your friend is right, give it up

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

How? Tkatchuk isnt going to drive a line with Tavares or Matthews or QB a pp like Marner does. I love when people make stupid comments pretending like they know about a team they dont watch.

Wants people to stop making stupid comments on players they don’t watch

compares Tkachuk with Simmonds.

Lol ok.

 

[DropIt]

Lucic certainly brings cup pedigree to the Flames.

Because we need this arguement in another thread

GTFO

 

[missionAvs]

I like this thread but the answer is Marner AINERC (the R stands for remotely and was added for dramatic effect).

 

[DropIt]

It's closer than many people pretend here and Tkachuk would actually be a much better fit for Toronto.

It's close, yes, but still quite decidedly one direction

 

[Oilers Propagandist]

Because we need this arguement in another thread

GTFO

You missed my edit, It was in context to the quote I posted.

Relax junior.

 

[Rals]

You missed my edit.

Marner has such a large contract partly because he produced so damned much. Kind of weird to hold that against him now.

Yeah, I'm not holding it against him, just recognizing that it might become a albatross, and future planning is really complicated and has many considerations.

 

[NyQuil]

Yeah, I'm not holding it against him, just recognizing that it might become a albatross, and future planning is really complicated and has many considerations.

Fair enough.

 

[typicalsavage]

Anger issues much? What are you blabbering about? Why are you saying I don't watch those teams? Do you know me?

Instead of telling people they make stupid comments, you should look at Brady Tkachuk play a little more and maybe you'd see how ridiculous your comparison to Wayne Simmonds is.

Brady Tkachuk is an extremely skilled power forward and an agitator that is constantly playing. He's a gamer and exactly the kind of gritty, passionate player the Leafs are currently missing. Don't know why you're blabbering about the Leafs powerplay, as if the Leafs didn't have a bunch of offensive dynamos to make things happen.

Nobody is saying Marner is crap. I'm just suggesting that Brady Tkachuk's talent level and potential contributions have been underestimated by some on this thread and that I personally feel he would be a better fit for the Leafs.

Hes a good player but the Leafs get significantly worse with him instead of Marner. They need grit on top of Marner, they do t need to downgrade significantly in order to get grit.

 

[Incognito]

Don't laught, Leafs shall take Matthew Tkachuk + a late round 1st for Marner.

There’s a difference between what you said and what the poster I quoted implied, which is that M. Tkachuk is on another level above Marner. That’s obviously not true.

 

[Merrrlin]

Is no one happy to just have good players now?

does it always need to be "but he's not as good as this other guy!"

 

[Chef de Cuisine]

everything is a debate, see flat earthers

lmao TOUCHE

 

[Martin Skoula]

You're almost making the argument that Brady is younger and closing the gap in point difference year by year.

Obviously Marner is the better scorer. I guess the question is would you rather have an ~80 pts finesse player or a ~60 pts does everything heart and soul player.

Like when Roberts and mogilny were both on the leafs, Roberts made a bigger difference in a playoff series even though mogilny would get more points.

Can't use Brady because he won't have playoff experience until he's out of Ottawa, but let's use Matt.

3 points in 9 games, outscored 9-6, 1 single playoff win. On the bright side, he does have 22 PIM in 9 games, I'm sure that's helping out a lot.

Marner does more in the playoffs than either Tkachuk ever will, they're just not nearly skilled enough to bridge the gap offensively, and their all-around game is overrated in the playoffs.

 

[King Mapes]

If it's his brother there's no debate.


Again, we know marner is more proven, but he's giving you a surplus of what the leafs already have Playmaking.

Brady, less points. More tools.

No with Brady there’s no debate. Marner is much more valuable.

 

[Deen]

Marner long term and Tkachuk for the next five years before his body starts breaking down.

 

[jbeck5]

Can't use Brady because he won't have playoff experience until he's out of Ottawa, but let's use Matt.

3 points in 9 games, outscored 9-6, 1 single playoff win. On the bright side, he does have 22 PIM in 9 games, I'm sure that's helping out a lot.

Marner does more in the playoffs than either Tkachuk ever will, they're just not nearly skilled enough to bridge the gap offensively, and their all-around game is overrated in the playoffs.

I'm confused. Are we talking about Brady or Matt?

 

[valet]

marner now, brady moving forward

 

[ole ole]

Brady Tkachuk or Mitch Marner.


I'm arguing with a friend over who would make the leafs better right now.

I say Brady.

If your talking playoffs it's not Marner.

 

[ole ole]

He doesn't have enough skill to replace Marner's, so what you're left with that Marner doesn't have is grit. Besides, there's lots of players who are skilled and have grit.

Not on the Leafs roster.

 

[NyQuil]

Can't use Brady because he won't have playoff experience until he's out of Ottawa, but let's use Matt.

3 points in 9 games, outscored 9-6, 1 single playoff win. On the bright side, he does have 22 PIM in 9 games, I'm sure that's helping out a lot.

Marner does more in the playoffs than either Tkachuk ever will, they're just not nearly skilled enough to bridge the gap offensively, and their all-around game is overrated in the playoffs.

Well I guess they should just retire then.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Well I guess they should just retire then.

I don't think you'll find too many opponents of that idea, just whatever amount of Calgary fans there are + the 6 people still watching the Sens.