Columbus Hockey Dad
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I think they absolutely do before that NTC starts July 1st.
Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid: Flyers Rumors & Media Mentions
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Same here. And he has value clearly. I think a team makes a move for him. Looking to western Canada.
Great job Danny... great f***ing job....Do we get cap relief if he retires or ends up on IR in a year..... Other GM's are salivating all because of Torts.... Joke
LegionOfDoom91
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If it gets bought out at any point the Flyers get hit with part of the buyout too.
3.5 million hit for 3 years.... its unbelievable how bad this team is run..... it really is....If your getting nothing you hold out for another year.... What do you think Hayes is going to do?????? He's going to retire due to injury because he's a suck (he almost retired before last season)... instead we cave in and it costs us for the next 3 years.... have some f***ing balls..tell Torts to shut the f*** up and coach.... Same goes with TDA.....mind boggling how people do not know how to manage. We the fans get killed because of it
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Curufinwe
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No Hayes didn't almost retire and forfeit $24,500,000. Stop making stuff up.
deadhead
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And the alternative was?
Who you gonna demote to give him enough PT to possibly increase his value while eating $7M in cap room next year?
Who you gonna demote to give him enough PT to possibly increase his value while eating $7M in cap room next year?
Prongo
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He wasn’t going to retire. Just full stop.
LegionOfDoom91
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For the record I don’t believe he retires. I guess it’s possible he could get hurt & go on LTIR but probably the most likely scenario if any is he gets bought out at some point before the deal ends. That would also be the most damaging to the Flyers.
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But you will have zero issue with Deslauries taking a spot from a kid.
LegionOfDoom91
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Niskanen but he might have just toughed it out if it wasn’t under Covid rules/protocols. He “only” gave up a a year worth of contract though.
Vinny was another. He was a guy who had over $100M+ in contract money his career.
But obviously these are rare situations. For most guys situations I’d imagine it’s not worth it to forfeit money.
Curufinwe
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Niskanen gave up his final season so he didn't have to play here in the pandemic. But that was one year under special cricumstances.
Hayes played every game last year, so it's weird to be acting like he's injury plagued.
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deadhead
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What spot? Deslauriers played the least minutes of any forward.
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And lose a retained salary slot for the length of the buyout period, instead of the length of the contract.
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Cap Hit Calculations
SEASON INITIAL BASE SALARY INITIAL CAP HIT SIGNING BONUS BUYOUT COST POST-BUYOUT EARNINGS SAVINGS CAP HIT (
STL) CAP HIT (
PHI) 2024-25 $4,000,000 $7,142,857 $1,250,000 $1,333,333 $2,583,333 $2,666,667 $2,238,095 $2,238,095 2025-26 $4,000,000 $7,142,857 $1,250,000 $1,333,333 $2,583,333 $2,666,667 $2,238,095 $2,238,095 2026-27 $0 $0 $0 $1,333,333 $1,333,333 -$1,333,333 $666,667 $666,666 2027-28 $0 $0 $0 $1,333,333 $1,333,333 -$1,333,333 $666,667 $666,666
| SEASON | INITIAL BASE SALARY | INITIAL CAP HIT | SIGNING BONUS | BUYOUT COST | POST-BUYOUT EARNINGS | SAVINGS | CAP HIT (
| CAP HIT (
|
| 2024-25 | $4,000,000 | $7,142,857 | $1,250,000 | $1,333,333 | $2,583,333 | $2,666,667 | $2,238,095 | $2,238,095 |
| 2025-26 | $4,000,000 | $7,142,857 | $1,250,000 | $1,333,333 | $2,583,333 | $2,666,667 | $2,238,095 | $2,238,095 |
| 2026-27 | $0 | $0 | $0 | $1,333,333 | $1,333,333 | -$1,333,333 | $666,667 | $666,666 |
| 2027-28 | $0 | $0 | $0 | $1,333,333 | $1,333,333 | -$1,333,333 | $666,667 | $666,666 |
Prongo
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renberg
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The market place has spoken- a sixth rounder in '24. No other organization wanted this guy. Supposedly CBJ ad a deal in line for him after the end of last season. However on second thought, they took a pass. Hayes is a bum that no one really wanted.
Curufinwe
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A buyout in 2025 looks pretty good, actually.
Cap Hit Calculations
| SEASON | INITIAL BASE SALARY | INITIAL CAP HIT | SIGNING BONUS | BUYOUT COST | POST-BUYOUT EARNINGS | SAVINGS | CAP HIT (
| CAP HIT (
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| 2025-26 | $4,000,000 | $7,142,857 | $1,250,000 | $1,333,334 | $2,583,334 | $2,666,666 | $2,238,096 | $2,238,095 |
| 2026-27 | $0 | $0 | $0 | $1,333,334 | $1,333,334 | -$1,333,334 | $666,667 | $666,667 |
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