McDavid should have won it. Its a crime that he placed 3rd behind Panarin and Gostisbehere. But thats that kind of screw ups you get when you leave the voting to sports writers, many of whom probably never even played midget hockey.
The Race for the Calder Trophy
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So your criteria for who wins the Calder every year is "who's going to be the best in the future? they get it"
And you think others have it wrong?
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What part of "in his first year of competition" do you not understand?
Help us to help you...
And why are you so determined to say that Bedard isn't the best player now? The only reason Faber is even in the running is because Bedard has been injured for the past 5 weeks. Bedard will be back soon and looking at Faber in his rear view mirror.
Bedard >>>> Faber
Its only Feb 11 my friend. The year is far from over. Even after giving Faber a 6 week handicap Bedard will still win it. He's just that good. Some would even say generational. Faber isn't.
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Faber not being generational doesn't mean he won't win it.
Thats true. Bedard could break his leg and never play another game this season. Barring that and assuming Bedard comes back in a week or so, he will win it.... not Faber.
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For the 23-24 NHL season only, potential means nothing. The Calder is for this year. Not age, not aura, draft position, etc. Generational means absolutely nothing for the purpose of the Calder.
Generational, the way I'm using it, means the superb ability to put up numbers and play well enough to win the Calder despite giving the competition a 6 week handicap. Hockey player with lesser skill would never be able to overcome those missed 6 weeks... only someone with generational skill would have that ability... and that sir, is Connor Bedard.
I'd concede that Faber was the best rookie who never got hurt. 
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Tell me you haven't watched a lot of the other rookies without telling me you haven't watched other rookies, good sir.
What's the latest update on Bedard? Is he possibly back late Feb?
Would be cool to see him put up some big numbers and reclaim his lead.
Would be cool to see him put up some big numbers and reclaim his lead.
Bedard broke his jaw on Jan 5. Prognosis is 6-8 wks. Feb 16, five days from now is 6 wks. I wouldn't be surprised to see him back playing with a full cage in a week or so. Right now he has 33 pts in 39 games. Faber has 31 pts in 51 games... a significant difference in productivity.
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If we're comparing two forwards, absolutely.
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So as I said earlier, your primary metric is points and your secondary metric is "I think Bedard is going to be better next season"
Let me ask, you do know Faber is a defenseman right?
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Jbcraig1883
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Not really, its a look at the whole player. It's offensive metrics, defensive metrics, position, matchups they have, durability, etc. Bedard, while has generational potential, has not outplayed every rookie in every area other than offense. He also got caught with his head down - imagine what might have happened in a playoff round. Not a knock on him, but we are talking about this year only. And there are obvious arguments that can be made for other players.
Do you think a bunch of hockey writers are going to take all that into consideration?
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If a bunch of hockey writers jumped off a bridge, would you?
Just because they may not doesn't mean we can't have intelligent, nuanced discussion here.
Instead it's "he score more point and he generational". That was YOU, not hockey writers. I'm going to operate under the assumption that you didn't even realize Faber was a defenseman though.
Your condescending tone aside, I don't vote for the Calder and neither do you and yes... with hockey writers its going to be... "look at all the points that he's scored in so few games and look at how he regularly wows fans with brilliant plays" so yes... Connor Bedard will be the next Calder Trophy winner despite yours and other Minnesota Wild fanboys campaign.
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Panarin had more points than McDavid (in fact a lot more), so Bread won the Calder even though McDavid had a better ppg stat.
Meanwhile, Bedard still has more points than any other rookie, so it’s not really too hard to imagine a scenario where he comes back in a couple weeks, scores at a higher pace again, and ends up with the most points despite having fewer games. And if that happens, he’s definitely getting the Calder with an overall points and a ppg advantage.
Not really an apt comparison.
And I don’t mean that to mock Faber fans or anyone else, but the simple fact is that Bedard was the favorite heading into the season and it’ll take someone else definitively changing voter minds for someone else to win. And as good as Faber has been, if the hypothetical mentioned above happens, Bedard wins (heck, I wouldn’t be surprised if they still voted even if Bedard had only slightly less points overall). McDavid was the favorite his year, but enough voters couldn’t justify saying that 48 > 77 and ignored the ppg angle.
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