OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: Steelers need a new ball thrower for the handball game thingy

[Double-Shift Lasse]

We will be taking Willis if he is at 20, I think. It makes sense also. Trubisky is here so we don't have to rush him. When he inevitably takes over, he will have a defense in its prime, and the rest of the holes on the OL should be figured out. If everything goes absolutely perfectly, maybe we can flip Trubisky for a decent pick or two.

I'm still of the belief we have to pick a NT in this draft, and I really like Travis Jones out of UConn. I also think Cole Strange would be a decent pick up also as a swing G/C prospect. It'd also be interesting to see us get a guy like Faalale as a RT prospect. All of these guys are 2nd rounders, so I'd try to back up if we could to get some more picks.

Draft a first-round QB but plan to have him sit behind a guy with some experience who you think might be decent too.

I like it. If Mitch hurts his elbow in Week 2…

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

They're going to draft Willis if he's there ...

And it's going to be a bad move. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if they TRADE UP to get him

It's true no one has a crystal ball. But, pointing to Kyler Murray or Russell Wilson as short QBs who made it just does not equate. Both those QBs were accurate. Murray had over 70% completion percentage his senior year. Wilson had 72%! Then people bring up Josh Allen and his accuracy issues. Well, he's the exception to the rule and he's a 6'5 freak of nature athletically. You can roll the dice with something like that.

Willis is both short and lacking in accuracy. He has to overcome not one but two big strikes. The odds are stacked very much against him. That is not the type of player you gamble away a 1.20 pick for....let alone mortgage 3 draft picks away to move up in the top 10.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

And it's going to be a bad move. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if they TRADE UP to get him

It's true no one has a crystal ball. But, pointing to Kyler Murray or Russell Wilson as short QBs who made it just does not equate. Both those QBs were accurate. Murray had over 70% completion percentage his senior year. Wilson had 72%! Then people bring up Josh Allen and his accuracy issues. Well, he's the exception to the rule and he's a 6'5 freak of nature athletically. You can roll the dice with something like that.

Willis is both short and lacking in accuracy. He has to overcome not one but two big strikes. The odds are stacked very much against him. That is not the type of player you gamble away a 1.20 pick for....let alone mortgage 3 draft picks away to move up in the top 10.

They aren’t trading up into the top 5 to get him or any QB they sent the house to Cincinnati and Old Miss so whoever out of corral Ridder or Willis that’s available at 20 they will take I would assume they could trade down and still take Ridder

 

[Pens1566]

And it's going to be a bad move. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if they TRADE UP to get him

It's true no one has a crystal ball. But, pointing to Kyler Murray or Russell Wilson as short QBs who made it just does not equate. Both those QBs were accurate. Murray had over 70% completion percentage his senior year. Wilson had 72%! Then people bring up Josh Allen and his accuracy issues. Well, he's the exception to the rule and he's a 6'5 freak of nature athletically. You can roll the dice with something like that.

Willis is both short and lacking in accuracy. He has to overcome not one but two big strikes. The odds are stacked very much against him. That is not the type of player you gamble away a 1.20 pick for....let alone mortgage 3 draft picks away to move up in the top 10.

I'm not suggesting it's a good or bad move. Just that it seems likely at this point.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

They aren’t trading up into the top 5 to get him or any QB they sent the house to Cincinnati and Old Miss so whoever out of corral Ridder or Willis that’s available at 20 they will take I would assume they could trade down and still take Ridder

I think Corral may be their guy… he will likely be within their range, he’s very mobile, he can run an RPO offense, has a strong arm, and he has that fiery leadership intangible you can’t teach.

If he was a couple inches taller with about 20 more lbs on him, he’d be a top five pick.

He isn’t though and his frame and playing style are legit concerns.

He’s a really tough guy to get a handle on.

 

[Coastal Kev]

And it's going to be a bad move. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if they TRADE UP to get him

It's true no one has a crystal ball. But, pointing to Kyler Murray or Russell Wilson as short QBs who made it just does not equate. Both those QBs were accurate. Murray had over 70% completion percentage his senior year. Wilson had 72%! Then people bring up Josh Allen and his accuracy issues. Well, he's the exception to the rule and he's a 6'5 freak of nature athletically. You can roll the dice with something like that.

Willis is both short and lacking in accuracy. He has to overcome not one but two big strikes. The odds are stacked very much against him. That is not the type of player you gamble away a 1.20 pick for....let alone mortgage 3 draft picks away to move up in the top 10.

I hear accuracy issues, I head for zee hills.

 

[ChaosAgent]

Willis would be a disaster.

Lamar athleticism but with none of the QB skills. A Trubisky Renaissance is more likely than Willis succeeding here, easily.

 

[OnMyOwn]

The DBs we have are actually really good. Outside of SS at the moment. The MLBs are much improved with Jack and the DL will likely get draft help plus a couple guys back from injury.

 

[WheresRamziAbid]

I think Corral may be their guy… he will likely be within their range, he’s very mobile, he can run an RPO offense, has a strong arm, and he has that fiery leadership intangible you can’t teach.

If he was a couple inches taller with about 20 more lbs on him, he’d be a top five pick.

He isn’t though and his frame and playing style are legit concerns.

He’s a really tough guy to get a handle on.

My uneducated guess is Ridder or Willis if available

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

I feel like the punditry is saying

“These quarterbacks all have issues and this QB class is a down year.”
“Willis has tantalizing athletic ability but it’s a risk gambling on him being a starting NFL QB.”
“Steelers need to take Willis because they can’t just roll with Mitch Trubisky.”

And I’m like are you listening to yourselves?

 

[T1K]

Malik Willis has a cannon. Sitting him for a year and letting him develop could pay huge dividends. I doubt we trade up for him and that he’ll be around at pick 20, but he clearly has the most upside of anyone in the class.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

I think Corral may be their guy… he will likely be within their range, he’s very mobile, he can run an RPO offense, has a strong arm, and he has that fiery leadership intangible you can’t teach.

If he was a couple inches taller with about 20 more lbs on him, he’d be a top five pick.

He isn’t though and his frame and playing style are legit concerns.

He’s a really tough guy to get a handle on.

I like corral outside of the injuries however he like Willis and Howell he wasn’t in an offense he had to make reads they all ran after the 1st read was covered.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

My uneducated guess is Ridder or Willis if available

Ridder needs to go to buffet for a week and work on his mechanics a ton.

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

I think Corral may be their guy… he will likely be within their range, he’s very mobile, he can run an RPO offense, has a strong arm, and he has that fiery leadership intangible you can’t teach.

If he was a couple inches taller with about 20 more lbs on him, he’d be a top five pick.

He isn’t though and his frame and playing style are legit concerns.

He’s a really tough guy to get a handle on.

I very much disagree. I think Tomlin has a hard on for Willis.

 

[pistolpete11]

I think Corral may be their guy… he will likely be within their range, he’s very mobile, he can run an RPO offense, has a strong arm, and he has that fiery leadership intangible you can’t teach.

If he was a couple inches taller with about 20 more lbs on him, he’d be a top five pick.

He isn’t though and his frame and playing style are legit concerns.

He’s a really tough guy to get a handle on.

I really hope they don't make a decision based on Canada's offense. Chances Canada just sucks and won't be here in a few years are pretty good.

 

[pistolpete11]

I, too, am convinced it will be Willis if he is available.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

I really hope they don't make a decision based on Canada's offense. Chances Canada just sucks and won't be here in a few years are pretty good.

Canada offense is already in the nfl high school and in college.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

I very much disagree. I think Tomlin has a hard on for Willis.

Lol reports last year was Tomlin loved Fields. He just wants a Qb who can use play action roll outs pick up a 3/7 with his legs.

 

[Peat]

I really hope they don't make a decision based on Canada's offense. Chances Canada just sucks and won't be here in a few years are pretty good.

Got a feeling that even if that's true, Tomlin will still seek an offence with a mobile quarterback.

 

[pistolpete11]

Got a feeling that even if that's true, Tomlin will still seek an offence with a mobile quarterback.

Agreed. Less you have to game plan and more you can rely on your players' athletic ability to win games.

 

[T1K]

$230 mil guaranteed, classic Browns lol

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

Lol reports last year was Tomlin loved Fields. He just wants a Qb who can use play action roll outs pick up a 3/7 with his legs.

Yes and he lamented that he "missed out" on him.
If so, that's scary bc Justin Fields sucks

 

[bigdaddyk88]

Yes and he lamented that he "missed out" on him.
If so, that's scary bc Justin Fields sucks

Fields wasn’t ready to start and Willis is a year behind where fields was last year. You would think the reports that Lance is ready and Willis is closer to Lance than fields would keep him out of top 10 it will not though

 

[Goalie_Bob]

Why would it keep Willis out of the Top 10 when Lance went 3rd overall the year before with the same parameters?

When a QB is drafted is not in direct relation to when they will start in the NFL. It's all about potential and whether they are deemed a franchise QB.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

I very much disagree. I think Tomlin has a hard on for Willis.

Willis will be long gone by the time they pick - thankfully.

Teams always get suckered into taking the freak QBs that can run but can’t read a D or throw an accurate ball.

They just never learn their lesson and think their magic wand will fix these guys.

Been following the draft since I was a kid in the early 90s and not once has any of these guys worked out, save Vick… but I think a QB with all of two playoff wins in his career isn’t exactly a major success story.

I like corral outside of the injuries however he like Willis and Howell he wasn’t in an offense he had to make reads they all ran after the 1st read was covered.

That’s why I prefer Pickett, but he won’t be around either.

Basically why I think - IF - they go QB it will be Corral.

Just more logical he’s around and he fits a lot of what they want.

Not sure how I feel about him, but rather him than Willis. Willis is going to be that guy that does well for a bit because of his athletic abilities, then fade as he’s forced to be a passer.

Seen it over and over and over again.